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I didn’t read the rules, I just looked up the authors
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Not going to investigate further

[Rachel]

My heart sank a little when I saw The Rules recommended here; I thought this book to be nasty advice when it came out in the 90s. And I am glad I am not the only one who objects.

– Don’t Meet Him Halfway or Go Dutch on a Date
– Don’t Call Him and Rarely Return His Calls
– Stop Dating Him if He Doesn’t Buy You a Romantic Gift for Your Birthday or Valentine’s Day
– Don’t See Him More than Once or Twice a Week
– Always End Phone Calls First
– Always End the Date First

This is the advice of the popular girls in middle school teaching each other how to manipulate boys by constantly shit testing them. Dunno what came first — PUA, or middle school stuff like The Rules, but was attitudes like this that helped create the culture of immature gaming and narcissism that is killing us today.

[Pacific Northwest]

I think I would wish for my wife to have no code on her phone or no phone at all. I get jealous if a woman I am seeing even smiles at people so I am not sure this current age has any duty to the nuclear family or property of successors. Long antecedent are the days of the non-trespass on the sanctity of the marriage. Serious deliberation additionally should be spent nowadays due to the results of my opinion which would mean that due to the degenerate status of the commoners nowadays I don’t have such a wide choice. Looking for a white anti-vax wombman who is willing to be subject to the common law. No emergency constitutes trying to settle for someone who isn’t someone worth it and, how could one nullify the potential of someone being in violation of your prohibitions? Treat it seriously sometimes there are exceptions to the rule however I won’t be getting married in the system, I don’t want a sterile concubine, atheist, or someone unable to carry out obligations which they assume they can.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules
12. Stop Dating Him if He Doesn’t Buy You a Romantic Gift for Your Birthday or Valentine’s Day:
You lost me here I think birthdays are satanic, and valentines day the same. I don’t and won’t be a simp for such rules I think THIS rule is bull. Again if you want someone worldly you will find plenty of beta males who fall for this tribute thinking I just won’t be buying a wife or concubine any gifts for her birthday or on Valentines day that is just my prerogative I really only celebrate the high holy days from the Bible. Do the rest of the rules work? Who knows its just a book its beyond my powers to see if they are universal rules admitting for no exceptions. They are not precise as an instrument which affixed them. Could they be curtailed? Will they be forgotten? Or are they theoretical?

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[After the Rain]

At first I thought those rules were laughable, but then realising this was published in 1995 I think it’s fitting for the time period when our parents were young. I can definitely see people my parents’ age going through those rituals in the 90ies/80ies, and many of those people are still married to this day. Those people are in their fifties now and they grew up with no internet and only one phone in their home.
I am curious to hear from younger married couples if they followed The Rules.

[Pygmalion]

My, my. From the look of these titles it just seems like condescendence towards males.
The message it sends is rather clear ; “I don’t want you”. Then why be surprised if males stop calling you back after such distant and denying behavior? This looks more like a recipe on how to lose the man which shows interest in you. I for instance am a very methodical person, I only put effort in something which can provide results, and if I would perceive no serious potential towards a woman, – worse, if she tries to be distant – then I am certainly not going to waste my time with her.

From experience I know that maximum honesty works the best. Curious psychological games is probably the last thing you need in a potential couple. Sowing the contrary of what you aim for (a relationship), is not going to magically create an inverted paradox where, by rejecting a man, he’s going to run after you even more. That would only indicate a rather worrisome case of obsessional pathology in the actual male.

[Anonymous]

Always do the opposite of what Jews say.

[Anonymous]

I remember sending a copy to my little sister when it came out, well before I woke up, but I tend to think that today it would, as implied, likely work to the benefit of players who are all about the conquest. It’s true – boys are systematically told, from birth on, that being a traditional man is the worst thing they can do to win a woman they can respect. Although that is false (possibly…), in those formative years when nobody knows anything, boys are entirely discouraged from being men while girls are indoctrinated into whore culture. I have a young nephew who is built, over 6′, on the football team, good-looking and decent – his take? The girls of his age are absolutely degenerate sluts that he wants nothing to do with. Is it any wonder where the MGTOW movement comes from?

As for me, I have no idea what anybody should do in dating. The application of any set of rules or tactics has, to date, been entirely fruitless.

[admort]

Both women and men should hold back in the beginning of a relationship, i.e. they should not act on initial physical attraction. Instead they should take time to discover each other’s personalities, the other’s functioning and reasoning. So men and women should talk and write more to each other, do things together (go for walks, cinema, concerts, visit each other’s friends and family and so on) before getting physically intimate. Without such reticence they are likely to take the sexual compatibility – so easy to find in the beginning – to mean that they have found a secure platform on which to build a relationship. They haven’t. When the freshness of the sexual encounters wears off they will discover that relationships are primarily social and spiritual constructs, not physical ones. Sex should be the “apotheosis” of a relationship already established, not the introduction to it, at least if “love stories” are to be successful and durable.

[Justin Kase]

I have not read the book but, judging be the chapter titles alone, most of the advice seems pretty sound. I did not agree with the titles of chapters 5,6,7,11 and 19. I think those five chapters give unsound advice that would likely give the impression that a woman is simply disinterested by modern standards, but keep in mind that I have not actually read the book. A woman should not be artificially unavailable and refusing to open up during a date seems counterproductive. The purpose of a date is to determine if you are compatible and enjoy each other’s company. Being standoffish may result in mixed signals and also prevent you both from discovering that you are incompatible earlier on. Of course there are some limits to how much one should open up, but those limits should be obvious to any tactful person.

[Anonymous]

The book ‘All the Rules’ by Sherry Schneider and Helen Fein published in 1995 has been a bestseller for years teaching women to hold back and let themselves being arduously pursued by men.

But in today’s genderized Clown World with millions of feminized young, white men with low self-esteem, are these Rules still effective or rather counter-productive? How should European men and women ideally behave to make a love story successful and durable leading to a happy family with numerous children?

Single as well as married men and women are invited to discuss the subject.

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For those unfamiliar with the Rules find an summary on Wikipedia All The Rules Book – Overview

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