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How to get men to stop only wanting sex from you?
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February 27, 2022 at 5:37 am #15330
Pacific Northwest
ParticipantSome biblical tips I can provide are read Sirach https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ecclesiasticus-1-2/
Wear a head covering, and always wear a dress that covers below your knees. Don’t wear jewelry, and definitely do not wear makeup. Ditch social media, and, stop watching TV or anything else worldly you need to come out of the world.2 Corinthians 6:17
“Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Alohim, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,”Do not as the heathen and pagans do of the other nations. That is my best advice. Be shame faced, and do not speak to worldly people who ARE interested in those things the moment you figure out they are in the world the bible says;
Luke 9:5
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.Receive you meaning the spirit.
Friends are problems its better to be alone than wicked, corrupt, and mixed in amongst the world.
Psalms 67:2
That thy way may be known upon earth, thy saving health among all nations.Worldly people need to bring you down to their level with their Earthly carinal desires. People who want sex are the definition of seeking pleasure in this world not the next. Look at what brought people into your life who try to procure just sex its the circumstances that brought them to you not them they are only a symptomatic proof that either whoever in your life brought them around you or whatever it is you are doing that needs to be recalibrated.
February 11, 2022 at 10:05 pm #15252Anonymous
InactiveBy the way how do I favorite this particular forum? It’s so interesting and good to read 🙂
Honestly it feels very good that there are good men out there like you in this forum! I’m pretty new to this siteFebruary 11, 2022 at 9:28 pm #15246Anonymous
InactiveJust read through all this and it’s so very sad that there are so few real people who reason like mostly anyone in this forum except for Wolff.. People like him are everywere at like every age and it’s so annyoing.
Women are humans to and does not deserve a man who will only be in a relationship for his own gain and pleasure, it goes the exact same for men who want to be in a relationship with a woman to build a future and a longlasting life together.But what do you think, do when a man after a year of being a relationship with him suddenly, out of the blue breaks up, because he doesn’t know what he want? Maybe a useless question after all.. Life doesn’t always end up like we want it to.
November 2, 2021 at 9:10 pm #14563Anonymous
InactivePerhaps I’m just a decadent pagan, but I want to know, beforehand, if I am sexually compatible with a women. If we are not sexually compatible then it won’t work. Honestly, celibacy is not natural, nor is it healthy.
Murder is perfectly natural. Would you say that is healthy?
Gluttony is natural. That’s why America has an obesity epidemic.
Social media addiction is natural. If it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be an addiction.Humans are hard-wired to react in certain ways to certain stimuli, but just because reacting in such a way is natural, doesn’t necessarily means it is a good thing. Gluttony in state of scarce resources makes sense because you don’t know when your next meal will be. Gluttony in a state of abundance produces weaklings.
Sure, sleeping with a string of women might find you that one girl who ticks all your boxes, but that girl will be a slut. You definitely won’t be the first guy she’s slept with and you’d be foolish to think you will be the last. Personally, I’m willing to compromise on sexual compatibility in exchange for fidelity and shared values. But, to each their own.
October 31, 2021 at 8:54 pm #14541Anonymous
Inactivevery good point M.
October 11, 2021 at 1:36 pm #14413Anonymous
InactiveIf you have a product in your business, but any time someone comes to your store and says “I want that” and you give it away to them for free, why would you ever expect them to enter a contract where they have to give something of value for it?
October 11, 2021 at 1:23 pm #14412Prussian Blue
ParticipantSorry Inndawoods. But making demands and doing ultimatums is never a good idea in a relationship. Either the other person wants to do it or not. A woman demanding something from a man is like a man demanding she gives head. Just not a good look.
October 11, 2021 at 1:20 pm #14411Prussian Blue
ParticipantHave something other than sex to offer.
October 5, 2021 at 3:37 am #14375Anonymous
InactiveThe essence of the topic appears to be “I’m not interesting to people beyond the promise of sexual release; how do I change other people’s biological urges?” Answer: YOU DON’T.
If people only want one thing from you, you might only be perceived as being good for one thing. BECOME BETTER AT OTHER THINGS. Develop indefatigable honor and irrefutable virtue. For example: car repair. I’ve seen enough semi-nude women on calendars in auto repair shops wearing little more than grease, holding wrenches, smiling broadly as they straddle floor jacks to believe there must be roastie tomboy auto mechanics; do horny guys look for sexy car mechanics? Or do they look for someone who can fix that problem with their transmission, and at a reasonable price? Breast Implants do not a good car mechanic make.
Women want to be wanted by men who will assert themselves and pursue them, and men want women who will submit to their advances. Every man will eventually lose that enthrallment with even the most beautiful woman; the scientific term for this phenomenon is “The Coolidge Effect”, whereas males are biologically hardwired to want to impregnate as many females as possible, females who just won’t take (i.e. barren, “hit-the-wall”, etc) will lose their appeal. We’re only wired to want intercourse with a single female so many times. By the same token, women are ruined by hypergamy, which not only causes women to want men of high status, but causes them to believe that they’re WORTHY of men of a significantly higher station they they themselves will ever occupy. Just because you’re a sexy nurse doesn’t mean the handsome young doctor interning in the ER will marry you (although he might have sex with you a few times).
So, males have troubles with relationships, right? Then why do we have the same friends we’ve had since middle school? Are we the same people we were in the 6th grade? It’s because there’s value in those relationships which goes well-beyond “this is the guy who sells me his dad’s old issues of Playboy.” Yes, that was a thing back in the halcyon age before free, high-speed, streaming, hardcore pornography was pushed onto every digital device on the planet (by Jews).
Which is another consideration: ladies, you’re facing stiff competition; unnatural competition. We as a species are in extreme peril because we all have primative monkey brains that don’t know that the people smiling and clapping on the talk show or sitcom are NOT part of our tribe (although they’re often part of THE TRIBE), and comporting with their values are not what is best for us. Women are extremely vulnerable to virtue signaling; men are extremely vulnerable to pornography, and for the same reasons; we cannot tell that the 19 year old female on the screen, smiling seductively as she show us her vagina and anus is not in the same room as us. We are not evolved as a species nearly as far as we might like to imagine of ourselves; your ancestors and mine were likely MUCH SMARTER than we are. DON’T KID YOURSELF.
Make your values known, and make them ABSOLUTE. Also, males and females communicate in different ways; guys rip on each other, and women engage in mock flattery. This does NOT come across in text very well, so if someone is not very good with the written word, cut them some slack if they say “You have nice boobs. I’d like to do them a squish.” He might be just joshing ya (even if he really does want to touch your boobs, you probably want that on some level, too). The proper response might be something like “You have big balls; I’d like to do them a kick!” That’s ROMANCE!!!
October 4, 2021 at 4:05 am #14367Anonymous
InactiveI made a vow that I wouldn’t have sex outside of marriage covenant and I have to keep it.
September 16, 2021 at 10:19 pm #14295A_Spartan_Speaks
ParticipantSorry, it is nonsensical to assert that sexual compatibility is a given as over the years I’ve encountered quite a few women with whom I was not sexually compatible.
September 14, 2021 at 5:22 pm #14270Anonymous
InactiveThe answer to OP question is very simple:
Turn away men who only want sex.That’s it.
Men want some women for love and sex, some for sex only, and some not at all. You cannot ever FORCE a man to change which of those groups he places you in. You can only REVEAL which group you are in by NOT HAVING SEX with men until they’ve proven through their actions that they will commit to you. This is why we used to have traditional courtship — because men who only want short-term sex with a particular woman will simply not go through the expensive and time-consuming process of courting her.
Don’t play hard to get. BE hard to get. Do not have sex until he’s proven he wants more than that.
September 13, 2021 at 6:05 am #14245A_Spartan_Speaks
ParticipantI would never expect or try to convince a woman to have sex with me on the first date. i like being with women who are self-confident and a woman would have to be very insecure to think that she must have sex on the first date to get a keep a man.
September 12, 2021 at 10:20 am #14234Administrator
Moderator@Wolff I am very confused. You want a woman to give you sex on a first date but also want her to be picky and know right away that she wants you for a long-term relationship? No good trad woman would do such a foolish thing. Trad women do not hold themselves ‘hostage’ but check out a man for several weeks before they enter the stage of intimacy.
September 12, 2021 at 4:42 am #14229Dave
Participant@A_Spartan_Speaks
“Perhaps I’m just a decadent pagan, but I want to know, beforehand, if I am sexually compatible with a women. If we are not sexually compatible then it won’t work. Honestly, celibacy is not natural, nor is it healthy. Look at how celibacy affects those vile catholic priests.”Lets get something straight right off the bat, the jews always accuses others of exactly what they is doing. The mainstream media, which jews have complete control over, paints the image that all priests of the Christian faith, not just Catholics, are pedophiles. Meanwhile, in judaism, the talmud says it is literally okay to rape children so long as they are younger than three.
The specific sections are the following.
“Pederasty (that is, sex relations between men and especially between man and boys, Ed.) with a child below nine years of age is not deemed as pederasty with a child above that…if one committed sodomy with a child of lesser age, no guilt is incurred.” (Sanhedrin 54b)
Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.These are some of the less disturbing quotes mind you.
Secondly, the Catholic church is completely under control by the jews. The vast majority of relevant positions of power, are held by jewish “converts”, or crypto kikes, i.e. those that have majority jewish ancestry but were born as non-jews.
Pedophile priests are not the result of celibacy, they are the result of jewish subversion and control, and this should be completely obvious to someone within out movement.
Moving on to “sexual compatibility” , if she’s is a women, and you are a man, you are sexually compatible. The concept that there is some magic sexual behavior that makes people magically compatible or incompatible with each other, is jewish horseshit.
It was very obviously created to encourage people to have casual sex outside of marriage, which achieves several of the jews goals.The first, and most obvious, is that it results in children out of wedlock, which destabilizes the the race as a whole, and is a part of the genocide we are currently going through.
The second reason, it encourages women to take, and continuously use birth control pills, which in case you were not aware, can sterilize them.
The third reason, is to spread STDs many of which can fertility lose, or complete sterilization depending on the disease.
The forth reason, is to trivialize sex, to make a fundamental part of our existence, reproduction, a casual irrelevant thing, which opens the door for further degeneracy.
The fifth reason, is too weaken and destroy the ability to pair bond. You can lie to yourself all you want that it doesn’t, but I know you would not date a women who has slept with dozens of men, because we both know she no longer has the capacity to be loyal.Whether celibacy is natural or not is irrelevant, we no longer have the leeway to make mistakes.
We need to adapt, or we will die.September 12, 2021 at 2:47 am #14227A_Spartan_Speaks
ParticipantPerhaps I’m just a decadent pagan, but I want to know, beforehand, if I am sexually compatible with a women. If we are not sexually compatible then it won’t work. Honestly, celibacy is not natural, nor is it healthy. Look at how celibacy affects those vile catholic priests.
September 12, 2021 at 1:45 am #14226Dave
Participant@A_Spartan_Speaks
“I think that great sex is an integral part of any lasting, long term relationship or marriage. I certainly don’t expect sex right away but I’m not waiting until marriage. It seems that some have a rather prudish, puritanical mindset when it comes to sex, but then I’m not a christian.”Marriage, regardless of faith, is the symbolic union for the most permanent union possible, i.e. having children. You wait until marriage, not because God told you to. No you wait, so you are certain that you want the women you’re dating to be the mother of your children.
September 12, 2021 at 1:36 am #14225Dave
Participant@DaintyLady
I’m surprised I missed his comment.
Once you start noticing things, you can never stop seeing them.“Men feel loved and desired through the act of conquering a woman. ”
He feels he is so inferior, that the only way a women could ever remain with him, is if he conquers her, thus robbing her of all will.
“Men are always going to innately want sex from a woman unless he is testosterone deficient.”
He justifies his degeneracy by accusing other of it.
“In my own personal life, I will generally not consider a woman for a long term relationship unless she knows she wants me and then gives me sex on the first date rather than holding herself hostage to play wait and see games. ”
He comes to a forum, where women go to escape degeneracy, and demands she behave like a degenerate. For there are few things more perverted, than giving the act of creating new life, to a stranger.
“Sex is one of the biggest aspects of a relationship if not the biggest.”
Children, the continuation of life, the reason why we form relationships, is less meaningful to him, than sex. His beliefs are clearly nihilistic in nature, that life is meaningless, and pleasure is the only reason to do something.
Lets recap: He feels he is inferior but hides it in an air of superiority. He accuses others, of exactly what he is doing. He encourages degeneracy, especially in women. Lastly, pleasure is more important to him, than children, i.e. the continuation of life.
There’s a very specific group of people that exhibit these traits.
In case you still haven’t connected the dots, look up the surname of Wolff. Go to Wikipedia, and look at famous people throughout history with the last name Wolf, Wolff, or Wolfe. Look at their early life sections.
The surname is as common amongst them as surnames that end in burg or stein.@Administrator
You may want to talk with Mr. Wolff one on one, while keeping what I’ve said in mind. As it appears I’ve found a rat.September 11, 2021 at 9:47 pm #14221A_Spartan_Speaks
ParticipantI think that great sex is an integral part of any lasting, long term relationship or marriage. I certainly don’t expect sex right away but I’m not waiting until marriage. It seems that some have a rather prudish, puritanical mindset when it comes to sex, but then I’m not a christian.
September 11, 2021 at 5:11 pm #14219DaintyLady
ParticipantMy reply to Anonymous’s question: “How to get men to be interested in having a serious long term relationship with you, instead of only wanting to have sex with you?”
It’s not your fault. It’s part of our degenerate culture. And it only gets worse as you get older. All you can do is say no thanks to the men who proposition you in that way. Yes, you can do things like not wearing revealing clothing, etc., but it still happens. Some examples:
Every so often I travel to a city to do wildlife rescue work. I help birds. I usually do it alone or meet up with one or two other ladies. In a recent trip I was feeding birds alone, fully clothed and not fixed up all all (hardly wearing any make-up), and a white guy struck up a conversation with me about my bird rescue work. He said he was visiting from out of town and interested in birds, etc., so let’s exchange numbers. We did. Later that day he texted me with the type of proposition you’re talking about. I said no thanks.
Then on my most recent trip, I was there feeding birds again—fully clothed (long pants and an ordinary shirt and jacket) and not fixed up at all—and this time a nonwhite guy came up to me and asked, “Do you have a man?” That was literally the first thing he said to me. He didn’t even say “Hi” first. I thought I’d misunderstood him and he’d said something like, “Do you have a light?” or “Do you have spare change?” So I asked, “What?” And he repeated, “Do you have a man?” Then: “Do you want my number?” So he was even more direct that the other guy, and again I declined.
My point is if men are still propositioning you when you’re a 50-year-old bird lady in a park, it’s not you. It’s the degenerate society.
September 11, 2021 at 4:00 pm #14218DaintyLady
ParticipantWolff, regarding what you said here:
“As for dating, women know they want to have sex with a man very quickly. A man is generally always ready for sex. In my own personal life, I will generally not consider a woman for a long term relationship unless she knows she wants me and then gives me sex on the first date…”
I hope you’re just kidding.
First, as a woman, I disagree that “women know they want to have sex with a man very quickly.” I’d say they know initially if they’re attracted to a guy or not, but then as they get to know the man better, they become either more attracted or less attracted.
Second, not considering a woman for a long-term relationship unless she gives you sex on the first date is one reason why our race is in the bad situation we’re in now: loss of traditional values. Instead of focusing on getting sex on the first date (like someone would do if they’re hiring a prostitute), focus on finding someone you’re compatible with, getting married, and having babies.
August 30, 2021 at 1:19 am #14144Dave
ParticipantAnyways, literally just say that you won’t have sex until marriage. It not only drives off bad men, but it will also drive off bad women.
In case anyone is going to say, “but what if I don’t want to wait”, stop being a slut, and start caring about who the other half of your children will be. I have 0 patience for people that risk throwing their entire future, i.e. their children, away for pleasure.
August 30, 2021 at 1:16 am #14143Dave
Participant“Make demands and the relationship an investment.” Hmmm, sounds like a small hat’s way of thinking.
August 28, 2021 at 4:24 am #14132Inndawoods
ParticipantMake demands and the relationship an investment.
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July 8, 2021 at 10:42 pm #13812Wolff
ParticipantMen feel loved and desired through the act of conquering a woman. This is her gift to him. Men are always going to innately want sex from a woman unless he is testosterone deficient. Sex is to a man what attention and time spent together socializing is to a woman. A woman gives sex to get attention and the feeling of being desired. A man wants sex for the exact same reasoning.
As for dating, women know they want to have sex with a man very quickly. A man is generally always ready for sex. In my own personal life, I will generally not consider a woman for a long term relationship unless she knows she wants me and then gives me sex on the first date rather than holding herself hostage to play wait and see games. Sex is one of the biggest aspects of a relationship if not the biggest. That being said, women must be extremely picky in who she gives sex to and I suggest she gives it only to one man when she is reasonably sure this man is a good fit for long term potential. There is no such thing as the perfect man or woman for you or anyone else. We build each other into that person that we need them to be with patience and love.
I hope this wasn’t confusing.
July 1, 2021 at 4:12 pm #13730Anonymous
InactiveI also recommend videos from Emily Wilson, she talks about courting, dating, marriage etc. A very good role model for young women.
July 1, 2021 at 3:09 pm #13727Anonymous
InactiveSimple: don’t post selfies in revealing clothes, e.g. selfies with a big cleavage, or bikini pictures, write in your profile description/bio that you are not interested in hookups, casual dating and casual sex. Block perverts right away. Stay away from mainstream social media or dating websites, look on trad and right-wing websites, only post pictures covering your body, I don’t mean a burka but no extremely tight and revealing clothes.
When I was single and looking it worked for me. I only posted pictures of me fully clothed, in fact, my profile picture was of me in… a winter coat (!), only showing my face. I wrote two pages of text describing my values, political views, and plans for the future, and who I was looking for. On websites like this one, I was receiving respectful and nice messages from men interested in marriage and who have actually read my profile.
On mainstream dating websites I had to write in caps lock that I am not interested in hookups, polyamory and that muslims and communists need not apply (and I got banned for that as being “not inclusive”).I didn’t find anyone serious or normal on mainstream websites but I did on a website for right-wing people.
So it’s both about what you write, what pictures you post AND the choice of the website(s).
June 20, 2021 at 12:58 pm #13589silvermane
ParticipantI understand where you are coming from there @Victoria, as a man, and from a man’s perspective, some men see sexual intercourse as the most intimate form of love for a woman, but not all men(especially selfish men). Myself, I want female companionship and long term relationship/marriage with a woman, but I want intimacy with a woman after we get to know each other and when the time is right.
June 19, 2021 at 9:40 am #13583Anonymous
InactiveYou might want to check out Matthew Hussey, he’s a women’s dating coach who focuses on helping women get into serious relationships with high-quality men:
June 19, 2021 at 5:15 am #13582ItsNatural
ParticipantAlso, to directly answer your question, I don’t think it has anything to do with what you are doing.
June 19, 2021 at 5:04 am #13580ItsNatural
ParticipantWell, a better functioning society like we used to have. I would think your chances of finding a guy to want deeper, meaningful, and long term things from you and from him to you, would be a guy on here. This is where we care about common, important things like loving being with your own white race. And possibly so many other things, such as Christianity, Paganism, having a family, tastes in music that aren’t rap, etc. I know that I have been true to these things throughout this decade and am picky (but not too picky) about traits in a woman. But from what I’ve heard, I might be one of the needles in a haystack, as I’ve heard that on other dating sites and in general, males are all just about that (messaging all the women and showing genitals, just in hopes of getting as many responses as they can for sex, and maybe some kind of girlfriend). That isn’t me. I must be 1% who reads everything in the profile and thinks about it. But, like I said, this would be the place for something way more long term and meaningful.
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June 19, 2021 at 4:54 am #13578Anonymous
InactiveThe topic is in the question. How to get men to be interested in having a serious long term relationship with you, instead of only wanting to have sex with you.
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