[Leo]

@Ehdude

I’m not necessarily trying to refute your claims about society at-large, but rather defending myself against your accusation, personally. I’m sure whatever data you’re sharing is genuine and does offer convincing suggestions about some major problems in our societies, but I’m not the type to take interest or value in such data-driven studies over my own logic and lived experiences (which is also my approach to institutions like marriage or religion and why I don’t believe in or subscribe to various other man-made ideologies – I go my own way, based on what I’ve found to be true in my own life experience). I don’t see how your declarations are even applicable to me, when my thoughts and behaviors are not represented in most other people out there (from whom this data is collected), especially when in no way do I bring about or encourage cultural degeneracy. I’ve had an unusual journey in life (that did sometimes involve happenings I didn’t intend or didn’t want, sure), yet I don’t tend to associate myself with how others are, nor their ways and justifications for their choices. My circumstances and reasons for almost anything typically vastly differ from most other people’s, people who probably make up a large part of the data and trends you’re noticing and sharing – that makes me an outlier, of sorts.

If we examine my past meaningful relationships, then we notice my reasons for no longer being with those women have nothing to do with the reasons that most other sexual relationships fail or end, and that all such relationships ended with me and them remaining on good terms with each other – again, unlike most others. I’m still in occasional contact with most of my former girlfriends, and those who I’m unable to reach anymore was not an intentional development, but a loss of information by one party or the other. You see, I have never been with a woman from my own country (which probably doesn’t apply to most of the people in the data you shared), the United States, only ever foreign, very old-fashioned women; meaning all my relationships have required healthy, consistent communication and planning, alongside extensive, repeated travel abroad to cultures far removed from our own here in North America (mostly to Europe). This alone shows an extreme level of commitment, investment, respect and value in the time shared together, and potential differences in how people are and/or operate. Every girlfriend I had was met and personally explored, with the intent of us raising a wonderful family together someday. I was even engaged with one of them, although marriage never happened, and with all I had premarital sex without any intention of leaving them thereafter. I genuinely invested in them, I was dedicated to loving and understanding them (and their family members), improving and enhancing their lives and understandings as much as they did mine. Some reasons why those relationships ended involved my own economic hardship and repeated homelessness (none of my family supports me; I’ve been independent since I was 18 years old) that I experienced (which kept me from traveling abroad at certain periods), COVID-19 disabling my ability to travel (due to my refusal to wear a mask, get tested, vaccinated, etc), or even the mutual realization of how difficult long-distance was for us and/or our particular scenarios where permanently relocating or changing of residency and citizenship just wasn’t feasible. After repeated failures, I no longer have an interest in dating someone who doesn’t share my same nationality, race, or country of residence, but that’s something I had to develop through experience that I formerly lacked when I was born into this world.

Once again, there’s nothing wrong with me refraining from certain discussions with a partner until after intimacy. You wouldn’t share everything about yourself with someone you just met either; trust takes time to develop, and it is because of this that I wait to share certain things with a woman, if she does not yet value who I am nor my role in her life as a significant other. A random woman in public wouldn’t dare waste her time being educated by me about White genocide, whereas a woman who deeply respects and wants me involved in her life would, and she would pay special attention. I have been through enough different situations, and lived amongst enough different people, to develop the worldview that I have. My reasons for everything I am and am about, came to be because I lived through something that made me change; and I don’t need someone else who hasn’t experienced what I have, across about 75 different countries and 6 continents, to try and tell me what is or isn’t appropriate. That doesn’t mean I’m perfect, it certainly doesn’t mean I know everything, and it doesn’t mean I can’t respect you and your contributions either. But I do know I’m secure, confident, and stubborn in ways that make me unlikely to accept the advice or judgment of someone else – unless they have lived through or realized something profound that I haven’t already encountered myself.

[Dude]

@Leo

I am free to think as I do because of the sacrifices of those who came before, and those same sacrifices of my kin allow you to do the same.

Leo, some of the things you comment about on WD I agree with. Some of the things you comment about on WD I already know. Some of the things you comment about on WD I did not know. I have a certain degree of respect for you. However, please refrain from straw-manning my position.
1. I’m not suggesting an equivalency between all marriages, or all things labeled as marriage.
2. I’m not here to guilt you, but I am pointing out what I perceive as a shortcoming in your decision making.
3. My position is data driven.
-> https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness
-> https://attheu.utah.edu/facultystaff/premarital-sex-and-divorce/
4. My position is also observationally driven.

Brief Discussion

The number of sexual partners appears to be associated with the likelihood of divorce. As the number of partners increases, the likelihood of divorce appears to increase. These studies are not inherently predictive towards outcomes for all people in all situations. Of course, life is more complicated and multi-varied than is necessarily capture by the studies. The purpose of reviewing singular variables as they associate with outcomes is to observe that there is a meaningful non-zero relationship between the input and the output. All this despite confounding variables that also play a roll.

Life occurs according to a certain graduation or gaussian distribution. A disease that kills one person may not kill another, for any variety of factors. Some factors may result in one persons death. Other factors may result in another’s survival. These confounding factors do not in and of themselves imply that the disease is nontrivial. That is to say, deviation from the mean around a gaussian curve does not in and of itself disprove the gaussian distribution or trend at hand. Rather, it merely shows that things vary in life.

You also mention waiting until after sex before sharing personal details about your life perspective. That seems morally questionable to me and undermines your central position; that premarital sex hasn’t been negative for other people you know so observationally there isn’t anything wrong with it. It sounds a bit like you are using sex hormones’ as a tool to short circuit the other person into being more willing to agree with you.

In conclusion, the fact that pre-martial sex did not yield (apparent) negative outcomes for people in your life does not prove that the validity of that behavior. Moreover, you do not know the path not taken by your relatives to do a comparative analysis. Further, the sources I have cited indicate the opposite of your assertion. Also, the ability or willingness to delay gratification has also been shown to relate to likelihood of success.

An afterword: I have witnessed many people in my life engage in premarital sex only to later get divorced. Does that make my life experience valid and yours invalid? Does that make your life experience valid and mine invalid? Your vantage point is not long and wide enough to know for sure, and neither is mine. That is why we can look at the aggregate statistics to see broad societal outcomes.

[Leo]

@Ehdude

Not everyone practices marriage, so refraining from premarital sex is a moot point for those who don’t ever intend to marry. It’s also neither immoral nor degrading to have sex outside of marriage – literally all life on this Earth, except for some humans, have sex without marriage. Let’s also not overlook how there are polygamous marriages, same-sex marriages, interracial marriages, and arranged marriages of older men with prepubescent girls – all of which are ridiculous but still marriage. Yet you’re going to tell me having sex with my [hypothetical] same-age, consenting White girlfriend that I love is somehow immoral and degrading, just because we aren’t married?

Marriage is a social, legal, cultural, and religious practice that I (as a nonconformist atheist with a unique worldview) am not super interested in (which doesn’t mean I’m opposed to it); nor do I consider it necessary to marry to have a healthy, lifelong relationship or to build up a wonderful family. I’m open to marrying a woman, but it would need to be with a woman of unquestionable loyalty, one who’s committed for life, as I also would be, because I don’t tolerate divorce (and women initiate a huge majority of divorces in the United States nowadays). If someone refrains from marriage, then they’re free to do as they please; but if two people decide to marry, restricting themselves to only each other, that ought to remain an inseparable, lifelong union. I have yet to find a woman I care to marry.

To me, it’s silly to marry someone you may have no sexual chemistry with, because intimacy is especially important, and I’m not interested in spending my life with someone I’m not physically attracted to or bonded with. My Christian parents conceived me before they married, but married a month before I was born, and they’ve been in a healthy marriage for over 32 years already. They had 4 White children, including me, and each of us were raised into well-rounded, well-mannered people, in our own ways. My childhood was amazing and I genuinely felt that my parents loved me and wanted the best for me, even if I ultimately took a different path than they wanted me to. My parents (and even my siblings who now have their own children in marriage) had repeated premarital sex, and we’re all outstanding, moral, curious, creative, and intelligent people. So, I find your argument invalid based on my own family experience and existence.

Yet you’re free to think and behave however you wish in this lifetime.

[Dude]

@Leo

You mention not discussing certain topics with a partner until after you’ve secured regular intimacy. It’s your decision to do what you wish, but it seems ironic that you engage in this behavior.

Our culture is degrading. One of the virtues of a ‘stronger’ culture is refraining from intimacy or cohabitation until after marriage. There are a number of studies, here is one I found with a few minute search. It isn’t the strongest study, as the method of data collection seems weak. However there are many in this vein and I think the broader foundation can be confirmed. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5956907/

You mention the degradation of our society. Perhaps you should reconsider your behavior in this area. Respectfully, the broader data indicates you are hurting yourself psychologically and quite likely the women you date by sleeping with them before marriage. This might be a shortcut hack, allowing you to get what you want or shift things in your perceived direction. But ultimately, this doesn’t leave a better overall society and culture. Your behavior also increases the likelihood of divorce for the men these women end up marrying… Whether that man is you or someone else. It also increases the likelihood of divorce for the woman you end up marrying… Please reconsider this no-win behavior.

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[Hunter]

I have received very few decent and real matches using any dating apps… and for reference, I have been using them for over a decade, and if I were a woman, I’d be physically 9+/10 (as a man, I’m physically 7+/10). Everything is against us, since our enemy, the ‘elite’ Jewish victors of WW2, control the central banks and therefore pretty much everything else (what would you do with infinite $?). They want our extinction. I have known this since I was 17… yet I still wasted my time on their rigged digital ‘love’ games. Well, at least I didn’t pay until this site and then love.me enticed me in my despair. Anyway, I read the thread and have to agree that Dating Apps that aren’t explicitly pro-White or anti-Vax (dysgenic DNA alteration) are extremely likely to be anti-White. I will be deleting some profiles/apps.

[Ted]

I was at a party the other night and dating apps came up. It was alleged that dating apps used to be very data driven, and that in internet archive you can find pages from old OK Cupid discussing how to make good algorithms for matching people. Then two companies bought up almost all of the online dating apps, and they’re not at all interested in helping you match, because that’s bad for their business model. There are certain questions like “have you watched a prime time TV show in the last year”, that can be surprisingly good for matching people. I imagine that if someone wanted to make a good dating site from scratch, they could probably get decent results with a 20-30 point questionnaire.

[Leo]

@Aster My initial concept for what later became that local White-exclusive dating and social events website of mine (that you joined, if you remember its name that I’m intentionally not revealing) was to be called Exchange Numbers. My idea was to offer either a local or online matchmaking service by performing in-person or video interviews with interested members joining the platform, who would pay something like a $25.00 one-time fee to be included in matchmaking records. During this process, I was to collect insightful information about each single, way beyond who they are and what they wanted, and essentially verify that they’re a genuine person. I then wanted to use all this information to help connect singles on the platform, allow them to employ search filters that included race/ethnicity and genetic information (among so much more), and allow them to instantly share phone numbers (a burner number or masked number service could’ve been a potential, small upgraded service, to protect actual phone numbers) with each other upon matching, so that they could become acquainted. Little ol’ me found such infrastructure to be way too complicated for me to build and manage though, so I opted for hosting in-person events instead (which was a more-or-less successful endeavor until I abandoned smartphones, my personal computer, and relocated out-of-state).

Anyway, you made me think of a dating-related question that I’ll ask our community in another forum thread momentarily.

[Aster]

Remember that people “you don’t like” are going to want to match with you I don’t know how many times higher than people on your level or higher. That’s part of what’s kind of depressing about dating apps. Anyone you think is quality will give you a run for your money, unless the stars align, and it’s mutual. Dating apps aren’t the best for building interest in people, unless the interest is already there from the get-go, which is sometimes hard to tell in the first place. Remember that you are being judged on dating apps, more harshly than if you were casually building familiarity with someone in person. Sometimes I think there needs to be dating profile consultants and dating profile help, a niche that could be filled. I’m sure there are a lot of women that need help like that too.
Dating apps are a very quick-decision playing field. You have to able to like them or not like them, without much of a gray area.

[Leo]

@Teddy Right? That’s part of why I tell people to keep clear of this ChatGPT and related artificial intelligence nonsense, because all it does is serve world Jewry’s agendas, constantly propagandizing those who rely on or blindly accept its dictates. I’m worried that so many folks will become reliant on things like Internet searches, that curiosity, critical-thinking, imagination, patience, and intelligence will altogether die out like so much else that’s wonderful in this world. Interestingly, global intelligence across the human species has been in steady decline since the 1990s, and I’m wondering whether that has more to do with miscegenation (since we Whites are or are among the most intelligent race(s) on Earth), the Internet, chemicals we consume, degradation of our culture, and/or whatever else – albeit probably a combination of all that and more.

I’ve tried some experimentation like that, too, and also wondered about whether you could create and verify your profile on Bumble, Tinder, etc with a false identity only to thereafter change your photographs and other information, lol. I’m sure it’s possible. I’ve to laugh though, at how a new account I make (as myself) receives countless ‘likes’ from considerable women during the first day or two, until what I can only imagine is when those dating apps recognize my ethnicity; because, after that initial account creation period, it’s all non-Whites, transgenders, etc even when I’m based in large cities with tons of Whites (like Boise).

Most of those platforms you mentioned I have also been on, at one point or another (plus others like FarmersOnly, Christian Mingle, etc – can’t say I recommend any of them though). The only two I really bother with anymore are Unjected and our beloved WhiteDate, although I’ve been focusing on dating in the real-world most of all, nowadays. I did just pass out another 50ish WhiteDate business cards at a local mall a couple days ago, in the Idahoan city (not what’s listed on my profile) that I’m currently living in, so I’m hoping that brings more Idahoans/Americans to the WhiteDate platform – haven’t noticed much of an uptick though (here or in Washington state, at the Kitsap Mall, where I also passed out WhiteDate business cards), unfortunately.

@StarsAligned I just about died of laughter at your first scenario described, because I, too, have totally been in your shoes; been called a racist, supremacist, conspiracy theorist, etc hahah. Not enough Americans are racially-conscious anymore (even I was included in that category until last year), nor at all concerned about preserving our genetic legacy – especially the younger, more attractive women. I’m wondering whether it might be better to spend time in various groups and activities, until finding a woman you might consider intelligent and receptive enough, to later win over to the truth of our situation today. In the past, I usually never discussed things like stratospheric aerosol injections (“chemtrails”) with the women I dated, until after we were having consistent sexual intercourse and they were much more trusting of me. I just learned it’s better that way, otherwise you’re easily discarded and replaceable, in (some of) their minds, lol.

In total agreement about your last statement, too. In the end, Jews spew hatred constantly and will deservedly be rewarded the retaliation and persecution they have coming to them (again). I mean, there’s a reason they’re such a failed, genetically-ruined, and small percentage of the world population, compared to all the other ethnicities out there. There are reasons why the rest of the world can’t tolerate them, especially once becoming aware of how these parasites operate. We Whites are actually praiseworthy and extraordinarily talented people, who value truth, independence, accomplishment, and adventure, unlike our age-old enemies (Jews). Imagine, a world without them, how few problems there would be anymore, ha.

[RHNegative]

Im not paying for anymore dating sites. Ever. Including this one. It’s tough tho. I like to be up front. I hate talking to white girls in the real world with the small chitchat. I’m like pro-white? Could you ever date a non-white? … they say, “RACIST!” And I leave.

Speaking of dating profiles; Haha I saw that kike’s story who pretended to be a white girl on here. Man, that woman has a lot of hate in her heart— surprised she hasn’t had a heart attack by now. Hopefully she did. She seemed so angry that she’s not white.

And yea dating for whites sucks right now. Oh well. When things are meant to be its just meant to be. I have full faith we will be okay as a race in the end. Literally every spiritual prophesy is about whites winning in the end. Because we know we actually just love our people and don’t truly hate anyone innately. These jews though, all they spew is hate. It’s going to be their demise and as we know, the world will finally have its utopia when they are subdued. Woooo

[Ted]

The first thing I wonder about: is the phrase “dating apps white genocide”, really a thing, or did the AI just assume it was and start writing authoritatively about it? (they’re designed to seem credible above all else).

If the Jewed-out dating sites really give the good profiles to brown members, then why not take advantage of that? If I start a Black profile, and then swap out the photos later, what happens? What if I keep switching between a brown photo and a White photo?

I worry about dating profiles as a way to get doxed. If they see my preferences, they’ll profile me quickly. I think I need to somehow get a credit card under a false identity, get a phone plan from the false bank account, and only ever have a physically connected battery in the phone out at some park where there’s no cameras to watch the parking lot.

A while ago I made a thread asking about White date alternatives, this was a list I made from it:
unveed.com
unvaccinated-dating.com
unjabbed.dating
unjected.com
Wasp.love

Elenas Models
Swipe left/Right
Trump.dating, DonaldDaters, Righter, Conservatives Only, Patrio
E-harmony

conscioussingles.com
OKCupid

[Leo]

That’s relatable, and thank you for sharing your experience with the mainstream dating apps.

It seems ‘likes’ arrive until you start paying and/or only when shelling out enormous amounts of money for extra attention to other users. I, too, received so many ‘likes’ from non-Whites, fatties, single moms (even though some of these were White, they were of a different ethnicity than me, and I’m not interested in a broken family having children from multiple men), and even transgenders, which made for an extremely annoying experience. I used Bumble for about 10 years, always as a paid member (I had their lifetime membership), and not once did I ever match with a blonde woman, or woman with blue eyes – in all 10 years of using it, throughout my travels around the world. Over the years, I did end up in 2 relationships with women I met through Bumble, but one was Hungarian, and the other was Colombian; all the rest were just hookups with non-Whites, but never a Negro, lol. Every other woman I’ve properly dated was White, but Slavic, although I didn’t meet them through dating apps. To this day, I’ve never dated an Anglo-Saxon (English/Scottish) or German woman, which is my own race and what I’m on the hunt for nowadays. In-person, I receive a fair amount of attention from White women, but because I travel so much (for work), it’s been difficult to establish a relationship with one of them.

As for your fun experiment – I already tried that, as a Latino male. On my first day as a Bumble user on a non-White fake and free profile I made, I matched with 3 blonde White women. Bumble, Tinder, and so much else out there’s owned by Jews, and they’re encouraging miscegenation, White genocide, etc even if they dishonestly claim that they aren’t.

[RHNegative]

The apps seem rigged AF. I tried tinder even a couple weeks ago but deleted it. I only get matched with fat ugly girls or blacks and asians. I mean weeks and weeks of this. Nothing but black girls and the occasional fat white girl every month or so. I bet there is some kind of AI that picks up on white male pictures and doesn’t allow them to match with white women. I can’t really think of any pretty white girls I’ve matched with.

Then as soon as you stop paying for it “You have 7 new likes!!!” Subscribe.. to find out they are all asians from 3,589 miles away. And you can tell the profile is absolutely fake.

I’m tempted to make a fake profile as a black male just to see if I get matched with white girls. Seems like a fun experiment, lol.

[Leo]

An Internet search on Google (co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin are both Jews) indicates:

“The phrase ‘dating apps white genocide’ is a harmful conspiracy theory that falsely claims dating apps are intentionally designed to reduce the white population by promoting interracial relationships and prioritizing non-white users, often used by white supremacists to promote racial segregation and fear-mongering; research shows that while racial biases do exist on dating apps, they primarily reflect societal norms and algorithmic issues, not a deliberate attempt to target white people.”

Meanwhile, in reality …

“Increases in the rates of interracial and interreligious couples within the U.S. have occurred seemingly in tandem with
the rise of online dating … couples who met online are more likely to be interracial … couples who met online have over one and a half times greater odds of being interracial … Online-formed couples are more likely to be interracial than those met in educational settings, through family, or in the Other Offline settings category.”

“Almost 80% of people surveyed who use Tinder said they have been on a date with someone of a different race or ethnicity (not necessarily a Tinder date, just any date in their lifetime). Of people who used any dating app, 61% said they were open to interracial dating or marriage.

Tinder’s survey generally supports other research on dating apps and interracial marriage. A 2017 study by Cornell University showed that dating apps like Tinder increase interracial marriage rates, as they expose users to people outside their traditional social circles. In 2015, 17% of new marriages in the US were between spouses of different races, and in a 2017 Pew poll, 91% of Americans said interracial marriage was good or neutral for society.”

Opposition to miscegenation is dying out with each passing generation. 21% of those 65 years and older oppose interracial marriages, while only 5% of those aged 18 to 29 do. In 1958, 96% of Americans opposed interracial marriage, while in 2021 only 6% of Americans opposed it – the small percentage of which most of us [if you’re American] are among.

The United States Census Bureau started tracking persons who identify as multiracial in 2000, for the first-time. In both 2010 and 2020 censuses, the percentage of the American population that identifies as multiracial has increased drastically, from a historic ~1% to the current 10% – an enormous change in only 1 generation, or about 20 years.

Is there any way to reverse this disastrous trend before it’s too late?

Fortunately, I have seen reports that the Generation Z of Americans are using dating apps less than Millennials do, but not because of anything to do with racial awareness and/or miscegenation – more because they think these [Jew-owned] dating apps like Bumble and Tinder are merely money grabs that exist to exploit them and do not actually help them develop relationships.

Although I wonder whether the increasing rates of transgender nonsense, sexual identity confusion, divorces of parents, birth control and vaccines, and/or other means of misdirection and bodily harm, play significant roles in the reduction of dating app use, interest in the opposite sex, declining fertility rates, and building families at all.

Something to think about – and something that definitely requires immediate attention and action.

I don’t know about you, but it might be time for me to get into local and/or state politics.

Source(s):

https://www.unm.edu/~reubenjthomas/

https://www.unm.edu/~reubenjthomas/onlineexogamy.pdf

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1709.10478

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/tinder-users-are-most-open-to-interracial

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/2-public-views-on-intermarriage/

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