[Erich]

There is no excuse for race mixing, we may have to be forgiving in the future for men and women who have had a non white partner but we’re not going to support mixed race spawn. White men with Asian women is still an attack on our people and men who are supposedly racially conscious but choose to partake in others races women are choosing to be immoral and should be as scorned as much as a mud shark. If you love our people it shouldn’t even be a debate to why it’s wrong.

[AeonKnight]

@Dragons

Yes. It’s a remarkable testament to the power of biology that White women have been the main target of billions of dollars in propaganda for decades and are still the group that racemixes the least out of all others, and by a large margin.

[Anonymous]

This is “White” date! Race mixing and race Traitors should NOT be tolerated! See this subversion for what it is.

[AeonKnight]

@A_Spartan_Speaks

This is also the case in Italy. You often see male boomers walking with some POC wife that was probably their nanny or caretaker, along with some mystery-meat kid. It’s easily 10 times more prevalent than the other way around. I understand why, statistically, given male biology, but I cannot understand deriving any fulfillment from a kid that looks and behaves nothing like you and some gold-digger wife.

[Ted]

@Dude

I downloaded a 27 GB collection of Stefan’s 2012-2018 videos off Internet Achieve as result of this chat. As you’d have known to expect, none of them had a title indicating mixed race stats, but I enjoyed the first sample video I watched. He’s meticulous and professional, my only complaint was he seemed to implicitly endorse the 6 million number for the Holocaust.

On mixed race health stats, I didn’t go through anybody’s raw data and make my own analysis: it would have been wasted on my audience anyways. I just did a bunch of searches through scholarly papers and skipped to tables and conclusions. All I really have is a survey of articles from an old email exchange, that support the notion mixed race people get intermediate health outcomes instead of superior ones. I didn’t find a case where the mixed race did worse than the worst parent race or better than the best parent race, except on suicide rate.

Improved health is an obviously desirable thing, and I agree that even if there’s a mild effect, that’s a point for not mixing. However, hypothetically, if my old friend was right and mixed race people actually had better health, that wouldn’t flip me around to supporting mass miscegenation.

There’s things like health, economy, cognitive performance, inventiveness, historical legacy, etc, but I think the real core thing I want is to live in a culture developed, maintained, and controlled by people that sort of look and act like me, free from discordant alien interlopers. I’d take worse health, less wealth, lower IQ, less advanced technology, and loss of historic grounding to live in a nation that’s just for “my people”. How pure? Ideally pure enough to not tell at a glance, but I’d compromise for barely noticeable.

[Dude]

@Ted_G

I couldn’t find Stefan’s comments either. I looked a few years ago, spent several hours looking. He has 6000+ videos (?), and it was smooshed in the middle of a video about other topics. About immigration or migration or somesuch. A bit of a needle in a haystack. Perhaps if his videos were transcribed, or if his videos had better text summaries… which they aren’t and don’t, respectively

I can show you the data I’ve looked at, but I’d actually like to review it in more detail first. When I get through it again, lets exchange data. Sounds like you’ve taken the topic farther then I did, Id be curious to see your analysis. I don’t think the data I’ve looked at has enough granularity for correlation analysis though. So even if it indicates what I think, it probably isn’t rigorous enough to be conclusive.

I agree with you, the difference isn’t huge. However, if mixing yields worse results (even mild) I would take that as evidence against mixing in and of itself. IE, health of the next generation – putting all other preservation ideals aside.

Anyways, you have added to my curiosity on this subject!

[Ted]

@Dude

I couldn’t turn up Stefan’s mixed race content, even on Yandex and Internet Archive. I made it to his website Freedomain, but couldn’t find a way to search for the specific topic.

I haven’t seen yours or Stefan’s data, you haven’t seen what I found, sounds like a small difference either way. There’s reason to expect either. They could be slightly worse off from each parent race having certain combinations of genes they evolved around having mates that share, or maybe the genetic differences separating races’ vitals are small enough that a random shuffling of genes doesn’t noticeably change them.

[Dude]

Anyways, I digress on my comments about IQ.

[Dude]

@Ted_G

Stefan Molyneux provided some summary statistics of mixed race health data, suggesting (mildly) higher rates in just about every illness category for mixed race individuals in comparison to non-mixed race. I have done some looking and what I found supports Stefan Molyneux’s commentary more then yours. I’m not saying you are wrong, but I do think the subject requires a more conclusive review for me to be convinced either way.

Also, I agree with your comment on IQ. However, I’m wary of IQ being the defining line in and of itself. Modern elites have high IQ, but that doesn’t always seem to translate into the solution of societal problems – but rather the creation of societal problems for their own benefit. I don’t want to force or destroy the working class in favour of a perfect IQ driven people.

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[Oscar]

“@Oscar, I don’t think you understood that I was talking about reality, not ideology.”

ideology IS reality, the reality we want to happen. There is ZERO excuses for race-mixing. you are racially-consicous or you aren’t, there is no middle position on this.

and your double standard is just part of the problem : you can’t reasonably pretend to enforce moral dogmas on women if men are explicitly avoiding them – and women can use exactly the same excuses (ugly/unworthy white males

(btw a a White male having kids with an Asian woman will give his nationality of this progeniture. almost 100% of the mixed white-asian kids we had in France were the result of our single soldiers mating with local women in Indochina. when the father was killed or didn’t recognize the kid as him, they were put in special orphanages for mixed kids and when indochina felt… you have zero garantee they’ll just leave the genepool, quite the opposite, in reality.

[Ted]

@Dude

Also, numbers are power, and we live in a world that’s hostile towards there being any white ethnostates. So, there’s a trade off between power and quality; too little power and you don’t exist at all, too little quality and why even exist?

Any sort of Eugenics program, even a subtle one, would be better than what we have now.

There are very unsuccessful people with fantastically high IQs, it’s not everything, but it does have a lot of good correlations, especially up through about 130, we see steady increases in educational attainment, income, jail avoidance, avoidance of unwanted pregnancies, avoidance of STDs, basically everything parents want for their kids. Especially relevant to a new nation choosing it’s members, there have been studies finding R-correlations of .62 .68 and .72 between average IQ and per capital GDP.

I looked at a lot of studies on mixed race outcomes in the course of debating a mixed race friend who believed in mixed race genetic superiority. Across a large number of metrics, I found results nearly intermediate of the parent races. On heart disease, various cancers, and IQ, it looked like their results were close to the average, except suicide, mixed race people have notably higher suicide rates than their parent races.

@WelshmanNorman
I’ve seen studies ranging from 0.35 to 0.5 R-correlation between parent IQ and child IQ.

[Hunter]

@Oscar, I don’t think you understood that I was talking about reality, not ideology. If a White man only has the option of an ugly or no White woman, almost all (except for hardcore White racialists) White men will go with the attractive Asian woman. The point is that White women race-mixing is cancerous treason with no excuse, while White men race-mixing outside of White territories—and keeping any non-White women/children there—is (relatively) not a problem.

[Oscar]

“Unless you can promise a White man, a White wife that is more attractive than the (inevitably Asian) alternative, it is unrealistic to forbid White men from race-mixing”

I don’t even understand why you are on this site. Have you understood the concept ? BTW what’s this “i’m entitled to” mindset ?

people who race-mix, whatever the reason they claim, are the problem, period. I’ll alaways prefer the hypocrite Parisian bo-bos who claim their unconditionnal love for the universe but stay very endogamic to some mystery meat waving the tricolore and having some based instincts, because ultimately, the macronist prats are my kins. you can change your opnion, and facing with the harsh reality you will. you can’t change your DNA.

[Dude]

@WelshmanNorman

An IQ of 170? Colour me surprised. Such an IQ is incredibly statistically unlikely.

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[Anonymous]

Well to me cells and germanium are two different groups. I don’t think they are inferior but racially I think they are different. I think together they are a great mix. The other questions I have pondered is the longer gestation of Asians. Reportedly they gestate 7 days longer. Blacks 7 days less. Is there a benefit to taking a white egg and sperm and using an Asian surrogate. I for instance have a 170 IQ. Should I use a groups IQ or not worry as I could have children and they most likely would have above average IQ if we deal with regression towards the means or even average. I am not advocating it I just like to ponder.

[Dude]

@WelshmanNorman

Hmm, I’ve heard conflicting things. One thing I’ve heard is that IQ is conserved from generation to generation within a gene pool. That on average, the average IQ of a child is the average of the IQ of the parents, within a gene pool. Which is to suggest, smart parents are more likely to have smart children. However, I can see your point. Which is why a healthy gene pool is important, so that such regression to the mean doesn’t have to result in falling too far. On the other hand, I have heard the idea that there is high variance of IQ within families – but the people I have seen present that idea don’t present much data to their point. It usually seems to be a statement of opinion then fact.

I have met German-Scottish hybrids. I assume that is similar to German – Celtic? Interesting combo. I also note that Northern UK people are genetically related to Northern German and Scandinavians – according to Thuletide. Perhaps not related in a recent Germanic tribe sense. But related in a North of the Ice Shelf sense.

I guess when I say Hybridization, I mean between racial groups. Not within racial groups. I don’t know what to think of hybridization between Caucasian ethnic groups. Is it good? Is it bad? In what time scale would it be good or bad? etc.

[Anonymous]

@dude
My understanding is the the IQ of person might be high but their family as a whole is unremarkable. She marries a high IQ man and even though the IQ is high in both individuals, the child could have a low IQ as regression towards the means takes place. Rushton wrote about this but I have never read anything about hybridization. Hybridization fascinates me as I consider the German and celtic hybrid is one o the most successful.

[Dude]

@Ted_G

It is also my understanding that IQ doesn’t average between the founding racial groups of a hybridized individual. Rather, IQ is lost into the hybridized individual. Something more like (Group A + Group B) / 2 – 5 = AVG IQ of hybridized individuals. However, digging that up and or studying to confirm would be a hard task.

[Dude]

@Ted_G

Well, I haven’t had the chance to double check what I had read on Portugal in the past. My information could be in error, but that was my understanding when I read about it in the past – 10% African. Not including any Arab genes.

I see what you are saying. I don’t know. On the one hand, you want to be able to draw on enough people that you can achieve a meaningful group size (ie, avoid population collapse). On the other hand, you water down your genes by widening the window too much.

I would agree with your thought of a Eugenics program – but a voluntary program and possibly not as extreme as those seen in the past. For example, perhaps higher IQ families are encouraged to have an additional child. Or perhaps higher hybridization families are encouraged or incentivized to have one fewer children.

I also have the concern of using IQ as the dividing line. I know plenty of smart people who can’t think their way out of a paper bag, as the saying goes. I would also argue that some racial groups have high IQ’s but their IQ doesn’t seem to equate to long term planning or perhaps a well rounded thinking style. Regardless of the specifics, I see what you are saying. Even if IQ isn’t the specific dividing line, a dividing line in that general direction could be applied for sure.

[Hunter]

“Our enemies are weak as fuck and grow weaker and more shrill, hysterical and desperate by the day.”
Can you provide evidence to back that up… since as far as I can tell, the Canadian Trucker’s Freedom Convoy has still been the single greatest act of defiance against the Neocommunist World Order (NWO) in North America. An actual serious resistance would require at least one governor of a sub-federal jurisdiction in North America to rise in open defiance against the NWO in support of Whites, or at the very least, Liberty.

[Anonymous]

Just because white women are marrying more white men it does not not mean they have healthier racial instincts. We are in this mess because of women voting which demonstrates they do not have healthy instincts when it comes to race.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

Re-locating Whites to non-White shitholes like Thailand is utterly nonsensical. Our enemies are weak as fuck and grow weaker and more shrill, hysterical and desperate by the day.

[Hunter]

I was being very optimistic when I talked about ‘White lands’ as, if you are following the news, you will know that the mass non-White invasion of all territories that I listed as (historically) White lands is ongoing and accelerating, and there is no serious resistance—was the Third Reich the last instance of this? Pursing White Tribalism in, for-example, Thailand is now critical. The goal should be permanently bringing over as many single pro-White White men (and eventually women) as possible, united under the simple survivalist ideology of White Tribalism.

[Ted]

@Dude
That is concerning.
According to World Atlas, Portugal is 95% Ethnic Portuguese.
According to World Population Review, Portugal has an Average IQ of 92.77.

However, due to the Islamic Spain period 711AD-1492AD, perhaps they also have a lot of Arab in them?
If they were a mixture of 10% IQ 70 race and 90% IQ 100 race, you’d expect IQ 97, about modern Ireland or Poland averages.

Some other considerations:
1) Have an IQ limit for the 3/4 and 7/8 immigrants.
2) The 3/4 and 7/8 groups would be likely to have 7/8 and 15/16 children.
3) Maybe it’s not as bad if you also have a Eugenics program to incentivize high IQ couples to have more kids, and take the worst 2% out of your gene pool?

Your post does remind me that the Spanish (formerly an Empire) and the Ancient Greeks never achieved glory again after they slightly browned.

[Dude]

@Ted_G

I understand that Portugal is 10% African by DNA content. Liberation of the African slaves then mixing with the locals. I’m also given to understand that Portugal has some of the highest rates of illiteracy, and lowest average IQ in Europe. Perhaps putting aside modern mass migration populations. With an already naturally tan skin, you may barely tell on the outside. However, this 1/10 intermixing has resulted in a measurable degradation to the local population.

I would be hesitant to accept a 3/4, 7/8, etc ratio as standard policy.

[Anonymous]

I think the biggest problem is that white sestern women are deemed beyond criticism. It makes it hard to deal with white women when society takes the position that they can do no wrong. These means every critique is an attack and the man is always wrong. There are just too many men who will simp and kiss a woman’s rear. One should not have to trade their masculinity to breed with white women. If this is what we have come to then what kind of race of people are we? This is why men go for foreign women. Perhaps it’s disgusting but it might be even more disgusting to be a like a fag for a woman.

[Ted]

@WelshmanNorman

The Spanish administration in South America termed 3/4 Whites Castizos and gave them full legal status. As for the American Indians, I suspect you wouldn’t even notice at 7/8th.

It was either school or history channel, but they said that in the 19th century South, “Octaroon” prostitutes were highly desired, that’s 7/8 White, 1/8th Black. So maybe with 1/8th black, you can just barely tell?

[Anonymous]

@ted, this is an interesting question considering how many people have native American Indian ancestry in North America.

[Ted]

@WelshmanNorman

You asked what an acceptable admixture is.

My current opinion, for purposes of fantasy state building, says they need to be 3/4 White when the admixture isn’t Black, Pygmy Bushmen, or Aboriginal Australians, then it needs to be 7/8 White.

I want to give North East Asians (Koreans, Japanese, North Eastern Chinese) a lower permissible ratio, but for me half Asians are uncanny valley. They’re good people, it’s just something feels uncomfortable about looking at their faces, seeing discernible White and Asian features next to each other on the same face. So for no objective reason, I set the limit at 3/4, expecting that’s enough to avoid the effect.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

For every mudshark I’ve seen, I’ve seen 5 or 6 loser, pathetic White guys with oriental females> Even worse, they usually have a couple slant eyed mixed race offspring in tow. Many years ago I lived in China for a year teaching English and I saw, first hand just how utterly disgusting a lot of White so-called men can really be.

[Anonymous]

@tradiman
Yes that has been my experience too. It really surprises me that you will see the grandparents who grew up with segregation pushing their half black grandchildren around in walmart.

[Tradiman]

@spartan
Don’t know what world you live in, but the mud sharing in my area is off the charts.

I know several, what would be called, beautiful women, I had interest in until I saw they had a mixed race kid. Kinky Hair flying every which direction.

Saw another today. It’s like an epidemic, and I’d rather wife up an Asian as to wife up a white woman who went mud shark even if no child resulted from it.

In my youth I Went out with Native American woman ONCE. Wasn’t my cup of tea, but I’d still rather wife up an Asian, or a light skinned Mexican than a freaking mud shark.
One of my coworkers has wifed up a mud shark with 2 interacial kids, ones part African, and no idea what the other is cause neither African, or white. 😞

[Tradiman]

@spartan
Don’t know what world you live in, but the mud sharking in my area is off the charts.

I know several, what would be called, beautiful women, I had interest in until I saw they had mudsharked. Kinky Hair kids hair flying every which direction.

Saw another today. It’s like an epidemic, and I’m not really attracted to other than white women, but I’d rather wife up an Asian, or light skinned Mexican as to wife up a white woman who went mud shark even if no child resulted from it.

In my youth I Went out with Native American woman ONCE. Wasn’t my cup of tea.
One of my coworkers has wifed up a mud shark with 2 interacial kids, ones part African, and no idea what the other is cause neither African, or white. 😞

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[Anonymous]

I guess this leads to another question. What I’d an acceptable amount of admixture. Is everyone a one drop rule kind of person, or where do you draw the line.

[Hunter]

To reiterate, practically speaking, you are not going to stop White men from having sex/reproducing with non-White women, UNLESS, you make this practice highly illegal and/or you expel the non-White women. The reverse also applies as, practically speaking, you are not going to stop White women from having sex/reproducing with non-White men, UNLESS, you make this practice highly illegal and/or you expel the non-White men. HOWEVER, the difference lies in that White women have no excuse for having sex/reproducing with non-White men, as they can ALWAYS easily find a White man to have sex/reproduce with, the reverse is not true. That said, this does not mean I endorse White men reproducing with non-White women in White lands, nor bringing their non-White family to White lands. By White lands, I generally mean: Europe, USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand—you might also include parts of South America. White men who are in non-White lands can actually help creating White spaces by having non-White wives and creating a sympathetic pro-White population: identifying as a White Tribalist indicates a generalized pro-White preference, but does not necessarily exclude interaction with non-Whites; Whites come first, but let’s be realistic. To provide the most extreme example, a White Tribal leader within a non-White land, would permit White men to ‘legally marry’ and reproduce with non-White women while requiring White women to only reproduce with White men, perhaps to the extent of forbidding White women from interacting with non-White men as much as possible. This could allow for a two-tier Tribe to be formed consisting of a pure White pro-White core, and a non-White/mixed pro-White periphery that supports the core.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

My message keeps not going through it seems. If it has and I am just repeating myself I apologize, but it doesn’t look as though it has from my side.

@Hunter in regards to my statement on christianity. I was stating that many Christian aesthetics live a life of celibacy. If you are saying that men cannot then this very fact proves that Christianity is in fact special and true as it produces men of higher standing. In regards to the rest of my comments, you said that they are “idealistic.” Indeed they are, as they should be. Our whole life will be difficult given our current situation. The topic of a procreation and spouses is no different. Are we to be weak and make compromises or be strong and honorable. If a compromise is to be made it should be for a more wild white woman than for a foreigner. The struggles of a modern woman are for a lifetime, but the corruption of your seed is forever.

[Anonymous]

It appears my message did not go through so I will write it again.

@Hunter my comments about Christianity can be explained in that there are many Christian aesthetics who remain celibate. To say that men cannot be so is proving that christian men are superior to the rest, thereby proving its legitimacy. In regards to my other comments, you are correct that what I said was idealistic. It is necessary to be so. Of course not all will live up to the ideals, especially when the ideal is so high, but to disregard it is foolish. By allowing ourselves to choose asiatic women for the sake of convenience is not acceptable. Our entire lives will be a struggle given our current situation, and the realm of procreation is no different. Are we to be the weak men who choose to compromise or will we remain strong willed and noble in every aspect of our lives. You are correct that celibacy is not possible for many men, but the compromise should be with a more wild white woman than a calm foreigner. The struggles of a modern woman are for a generation, but the corruption of your seed is forever.

[Ted]

What Ralf says makes sense. Besides, White men are most desired by the women of other races too, so it’s probably pickiness.

[Anonymous]

In many cases the price of a women is greatly over inflated. From a. Simple economic stand point. I see some men really willing to kiss up to some grotesque beasts.

[Anonymous]

I would argue that the term “loyalty” when referring to women who prefer to stay within their race is probably the wrong term – as most of them have likely never thought of the societal implications, but rather simply made an instinctual choice.

And since women are in a position in which they simply need to make themselves available for men to want to date them, while men don’t have that luxury and must work a lot harder to achieve the same result, I would say that this racial preference is more of an expression of “pickiness” than anything else, much like you would see in those women who refuse to date men below a certain height or salary, with the expectation for these often being way above average.

Women can afford to be picky as there will almost always be more simps than low quality women, while for men dating is a lot more involved and time consuming – thus it is of no surprise to me that they would be more likely to “look elsewhere” when they don’t succeed in finding a quality woman among their own people.

Sitting there and waiting for the right man to come along is much easier than going out and finding a woman to date, especially in the indifferent world of modern dating, in which one will get impolitely rejected most of the time.

[Ted]

I have seen data suggesting White women are the most racially loyal. However, that’s the ones that date. Many have been taken out of the reproductive arena all together by wokism, and others are still looking but live gracelessly and have ridiculous expectations; with some charm, effort, and luck, some of them could be refurbished.

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[Anonymous]

As far as the survey white is a very fluid term. Hispanics from Mexico are considered white, Indians from Indian many times are considered white and even arabs who are obviously black can be included. I have even seen a yellow bone or two included. It still doesn’t invalidate my point however. Women have never had it so good as they have had with white European men. I think white men are under appreciated.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

Recently, I saw the results of a survey conducted in America and 66% of White women who responded said that they would only ever date/marry White men exclusively. By contrast, just 29% of White men who responded said that they only ever date/marry White women, exclusively. And I am ashamed to say that as a White man my real world experience bears out the results of that survey.

[Anonymous]

Women are hypergamous. They marry based on social status. This is why they try to stop white males from going to university. A woman with a bachelor’s degree wants to marry that or above. If Kwame or Jose have the degree and the women are given social credit for being with the foreigners they tend to go that way. I have met many men who father white kids and divorced their white wives because they were unbearable to be around. They married Asians and were much happier. I am not advocating it, I am just saying our race is really mentally messed up right now. It is suffering from a form of collective Stockholm syndrome. It is unfathomable why as a people we like to be abused and made into second or third class citizens.

[Anonymous]

@Hunter in regards to my religious statement, I said that because if man cannot control himself but Christian ascetic men can then Christian men are superior to others. I recognize that my statements were idealistic, but that is what ideals should b. Just because most men are not able to control themselves does not mean we should permit the idea of male miscegenation. We should live to higher standards, be it celibacy, or simply having to take a more difficult white wife.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

Ultimately, I think that White women are more likely than White men to have healthy racial instincts. It seems that most White women have a strong aversion to giving birth to ugly mixed race offspring, whereas, most White men seem to have no qualms about fathering ugly mixed race offspring.

[Ted]

WelshmanNorman:
I agree many of our women have been ruined, irreparably, by our intentionally poisonous culture. That was something done to us by those who intend us harm. The purpose was to decrease the White birth rate and increase miscegenation. I understand that it’s much easier to live with a foreign woman that actually wants to be a woman, but if we don’t manage to tame enough of our semi-corrupted women, the enemy wins and we have no future.

There’s not enough women on WhiteDate. If we don’t want to lose, we’re going to need to learn to seduce and persuade some NPCs.

[Anonymous]

I think white women are the most attractive women on the fave of the earth but many avt in an unattractive manner. Asian women act more traditional and can be less of a source of nonsense and stress. It has nothing to do with being low testosterone, that is a logical fallacy to the argument. To act like someone is not man enough to deal with the problems that are inherent in white woman culture is nonsense. It like saying you are not parent enough to adopt a monstrous child. Why would you adopt a child who was problems or take a wife who was problems.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

What complete, utter nonsense. Oriental females are not attractive, they are easy. They are the path of least resistance for low-quality, low-t, beta male White guys. I reject the notion that oriental females are more attractive or more appealing than White women in any shape for or way.

[Anonymous]

I am not here to bash white women. There are some that are good on the individual level but as a cohort in many ways they leave alot to be desired. Many white men marry white women from a purely ideological point of view such as wanting white unmixed children. As a general rule though foreign women outside the influence of the west, the women are more pleasant. As long as men do not marry ideologically they will marry asiatic women.

[Hunter]

“Christian asceticism.” Not very popular these days… “By saying that white men can’t control their urges you are either proving Christianity to be the one true religion” What? How? “Or you are implying that White men are just as weak willed as the rest of the populace.” No, not just as weak willed, but even White men have their breaking point. What is a mid-life crisis? I was being realistic, @Tony you are being extremely idealistic in thinking that Whites would, in significant number, voluntarily remain celibate simply to avoid interacting or reproducing with non-Whites. White women have no excuse for having sex/reproducing with non-Whites, but White men do. Given the choice of remaining celibate or having a non-White wife, the vast majority of White men would choose the non-White wife. Perhaps, for example, if you had control of the Vatican and changed canon law to prohibit interracial intercourse, you might have some especially devout White Catholic men remain celibate over having intercourse with non-White women, but it would still be a minority. Only with the power of the state, could you really ban interracial sex (similar to how sex with minors is highly illegal for non-elites), and as a result some men would simply not have sex, others would leave.

[Anonymous]

I completely disagree with your analysis hunter. Ted_G has it right, by adding white genes to other cultures it blurs the line between superior and inferior people, especially In a time with such moral decay that people with good genes can sink lower than their weaker counterparts. Your statement that it is unrealistic to forbid white men from race mixing is so far off. Celibacy is a large part of Christian asceticism. By saying that white men can’t control their urges you are either proving christianity to be the one true religion or you are implying that white men are just as weak willed as the rest of the populace. In regards to your other statements, an ethnostate is not required for whites to keep to themselves, and the whole concept that every white person must be married is ludicrous. All that’s necessary is for a replacement level of children to be born, and some people cannot even have children anyways. Also to mandate marriage is ignoring the not slight significance that celibate warriors have on a society.

[Hunter]

Unless you can promise a White man, a White wife that is more attractive than the (inevitably Asian) alternative, it is unrealistic to forbid White men from race-mixing. Especially, if they are doing it outside of White lands without ever bringing non-Whites to White lands. If you really do not want ANY White people straying from their subspecies, you must establish a White Nationalist territory AND you must have some system that ensures every-single White person will be married in adulthood. For-example, people must submit evidence of their marriage by their 20th birthday, and those who fail to do so will be imprisoned together in close-quarters. When two of the prisoners decide to get married they can leave the prison. The ‘marriage prison’ could be more like a beach resort. I’m a libertarian at heart, but I’d honestly love to be an absolute monarch, oh the fun to be had! That’s enough fantasy for now though.

[Alumnus]

Interracial intimacy is bad for both our genders.

[Ted]

Double standards makes sense for two different enough things, but I agree that men should generally stick to their race and not slut around either, but form and support productive families.

Aboriginal Australians are generally too dumb to cause problems, but the half white ones have IQs like American Blacks, and make much more effective criminals. Upgrading them with white genes actually makes them a bigger problem.

[Anonymous]

It’s with no happiness nor glee that I say that many men prefer the asiatic women over their own. It speaks to the horrible state of our society. We live ina. World that people in the 1950s would consider to be a dystopia hell hole. I don’t think anyone is justifying race mixing as much as identifying the reality and danger of the appeal of asiatic women.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

I can’t believe that some are actually trying to justify the act of race mixing by White men. Race mixing is evil and contributes to the genocide of our people, period. I grow tired of the mgtow-icnel losers squealing about White women being so terrible and as a resul loser White guys are supposedly compelled to seek out oriental females.

[Anonymous]

Men and women have different standards because they are different. I can understand how many white men go for oriental women as they treat the men much better than most white women. It certainly is a danger and was written up in an article I read calling it “yellow fever”. I would say even if you go to their lands you still are adding to their genetics by having children. I have an IQ of 170. If I were to have asian kids they would be Asians with higher testosterone, larger in stature and high IQ. It could have an effect. You could be better a competing people.

[Hunter]

Men and women are not equal, especially when it comes to sexuality. A double standard is therefore completely natural. Women can choose to reproduce with almost any man. How many (especially unmarried) men will turn down free sex? Men’s reproductive choices are, by contrast, extremely limited unless in the top 10% of men (as determined by women). Men reproducing with non-Whites outside of White lands does not harm Whites as a subspecies (race) so long as the non-White women and children stay there. Women, by contrast, are a limited reproductive resource. Every healthy White women that either does not reproduce, or worse, reproduces dysgenically (especially outside of her subspeices) is a loss to our Aryan subspecies as a whole.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

For me, race-mixing is and always will be the ultimate evil and it matters not to me if it is White men or White women engaging in it. I can’t abide double standards and it annoys me when some try to justify White men engaging in race-mixing with oriental females, while rightly condemning White women who engage in it.

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