[Natalie]

hello men,sorry for my English, I use translator plus i know a little too
you think its good if young woman marry old man?i dont think
i received messages from old men here,one said he has many money for a large family,i dont like his body and face i want masculine man,but i decided speak to him for sake of kids if he have money but after i said speak to me on what’s up, he say no,need sugnal i got really sad he cant make what’s up for me,and soon I receive many messages from young men with money too and i decides that i dont deserves to be with old men.Why if can choose young men!!!
i think old men not need wrute to young girls because we deserve good young body too

[Dude]

@Hunter

I’m not here to cross wires with you, but I have two cents to put in.

People are going to disagree. I think people are WD are more likely to disagree than people in the aggregate population. We are willing to go against the grain of broader society so we are likely willing to go against the grains of one another as well.

You are welcome to leave WD if you want, that is your choice. Aster is allowed to have and express her views just as you are yours. Respectfully, I suggest you accept that you two disagree and that you view things differently than the women here in general.

best
-Dude

• This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by Dude.

[Hunter]

@LEO “standing up for others who may be vulnerable or in need of defense (such as children and women) from psychopaths like Sigma”

First, where is the proof that Sigma can’t feel feelings (i.e. is a psychopath)? His post was full of emotion from what I can tell.

Second, a White man should primarily be concerned with protecting HIS White women and children. If he so desires he may go beyond that, but this must not be an expectation at all.

@Aster you cannot handle reality and are seriously creepy with your veiled threats. Always attacking the persona because you can’t win using logic, classic feminist. But thank-you, you’ve helped me come to the conclusion that I will not invest anymore time nor money on this website, ever again. Also, it is clear to me that mixed-sex discussion of anything of importance is doomed. It is clearly a waste of time, as professed females rule regardless of logic. The White subspecies has a high chance of doom. I have discussed controversial topics here, but no longer.

Gute Nacht White Date

[Hunter]

@Ted, when did I say cohabitation doesn’t work? I mean, in the Amazon rainforest there were two tribes (one of males and one of females) that just got together once a year to have sex and make babies, and male babies would be given to the male tribe after they were weaned… very interesting anthropologically speaking, but not a social model that I’d recommend for an entire society.

@Leo #24142 in one of my other posts I described three base societal models that could be a fountain of fertility for Whites, True Patriarchy, (Close-Kin [Avunculate]) Arranged Marriages (Sexes are legally equal), and Marriage-less Matriarchy. Personally, the idea of taking a female as my slave and (re)educating her to be my ideal wife is unappealing to my nature and upbringing (I’m totally with you on that one)… yet it works, the reproductive success of Islam is undeniable. In this feminist society, I think it is almost always necessary for a man to shape (condition) a woman into being his ‘wife’, and yes, we may have to start further from our goal, but for myself at least, she must not have been ‘vaccinated’ (dysgenic DNA-alteration) since 2019 at the latest, and she must be physically attractive to me. If those three conditions can’t be met, there is nothing to start with in my opinion. As for what we can do, since we don’t have the time to condition the entire society, I suggest starting a cult with DNA quality a key focus. The reality is that given a creator deity ‘GOD’, DNA is then literally the word of that ‘GOD’ although corruption or even improvement (a divine trial?) would be possible.

@Leo #24143 YES. That is the short answer. Certain aspects of the various christianities, if only applied to our fellow Whites, would strengthen us… however, since any ‘human’ can be a christian, christianity weakens us and is actually the primary origin of our downfall as a subspecies. Constantine was the greatest traitor to the White race in history. After his short-sighted ‘conversion’ christianity was spread (forced on) all of Europe primarily through coercion. Before christianity, there was nothing more sacred to the White peoples (i.e. Greeks, Romans, Celts, Germanics, Scythians) than bloodline. The ultimate trojan horse was christianity, to be followed much later by the private central banking FIAT cartel, communism and derivatives (net zero [death to life on earth], DEI, eat ze bugs)… The greatest irony is that the satanism-luciferianism (synagogue of satan) that rules the world today would be impossible without christianity.

[Leo]

Thank you for sharing that, @Ulim.

@Aster I hope you can find someone compatible much sooner than later, considering you’re already in your mid-30s. Try to put yourself out there a little more, and maybe reduce your reliance on dating platforms, if you can help it or if you figure it’ll incentivize you to connect with locals more often. I have a couple single guy friends who are looking for a keeper, but I think you deserve better than them.

@Teddy @Phoenix

I figure a fun challenge we men could have here through WhiteDate, is to keep track of how many White women we approach and ask out in-person, and share any success stories … or rejections, haha. I’ve considered doing this on several occasions myself, at markets and libraries, but have yet to act on it. Subconsciously, I suspect it would just be a waste of time; the random woman around public spaces would probably be a lot of work to re-educate on racial matters. I kind of wish there was a way to recognize whether someone was unvaccinated for COVID-19, too, without having to ask and trust in their answer, lol. I sense that unvaccinated women would be more intelligent and receptive to explanations about White genocide. But I did have dinner with a friend not too long ago; he complimented and asked out our waitress, and she readily agreed to share her phone number with him, to my own surprise. Makes me wonder how many single women out there floating around, are just waiting for a man to initiate.

[Uli]

@Aster

Any study that says it is “normal” for a woman to start getting pregnant at 40 is completely wrong. Until a woman reaches that age, she will probably be full of contraceptives, have unbalanced hormone regulators, an unregulated menstrual cycle, few remaining eggs, etc. Successful cases are an exception and there is an infinite group of women who are unable to get pregnant naturally, sometimes even artificially. Go research artificial fertilization groups and you will read reports from women who have tried countless times and it didn’t work either.

The later you try the worse… the woman needs to make an effort to find a good partner and thus start a family straight away, give her first child siblings and stay in an unstable marriage with father and mother, preferably both of them are not so old because from the perspective of a child he doesn’t want to become an orphan right away.

[Leo]

Thanks for sharing your fair and mature perspectives, @Aster. I’m not interested in creating conflict with anyone, but some truths do need to be said, no matter how uncomfortable we may feel about them. There’s little disagreement with your comments from me, and you’re not alone in standing up for others who may be vulnerable or in need of defense (such as children and women) from psychopaths like Sigma; yet I figure all the adults using WhiteDate.net are capable of standing up for themselves – or inevitably will someday, if they have yet to learn the hard way how brutal some people can be, even against their own kind.

I’ll caution you (as a caring person, not as a Moderator, obviously, lol) about normalizing your mentality about reproducing in old age though. Doing so probably disincentivizes you and potentially other women from taking timely, appropriate action (and/or compromise) in securing a mate and bringing more children into the world. Don’t overlook how those ‘stories’ or ‘studies’ you reference might be publicized and made known to you as part of certain anti-life or White genocide agendas, to convince women like you that you’re safe to keep waiting, when you may not be. Remember who controls access to most information on the Internet, and that we’re all capable of being deceived. Just be mindful of that and question everything, especially what doesn’t come from people who personally know and/or care about you and your best interests. Our bodies are deteriorating with time, and I imagine there would be notable differences in the quality of any offspring and/or pregnancy risks when reproducing at an older age versus a younger age – not to mention how much of a disservice it would be to raise young children when nearing old age and/or death as they develop into adults themselves.

Imagine, thinking you can still have kids when you’re 55, only to find out how wrong you were all along, the kid’s born retarded, you’re limited to a smaller family size than desired, or you have a miscarriage – or imagine preparing for your firstborn with a wonderful man, and you die in a car accident on the way home, while you’re pregnant. Don’t miss your chance. You are of course a grown woman who can make her own decisions, but you shouldn’t go around assuming that any of us will survive into old age or remain in good health for the rest of our days on the Earth. There’s an increased risk in suffering health issues or outright death the longer we’re alive; that’s a biological inevitability that shouldn’t be ignored.

The sooner, the better – hence all the concerns myself and plenty others are expressing here and elsewhere.

PS – A better way to respect someone’s privacy than not mentioning the identity of their alternate profile, would probably be to not mention they have one at all; although I’m in total agreement about your statement on mutual respect and a woman’s interest and sexual desire in being dominated by her man, that naturally follows said respect and earned trust.

[Leo]

@Phoenix

When you mentioned, “Our ‘unconverted’ ancestors would not approve,” were you referring to our northwest European ancestors whose worldviews were paganistic? If so, than I have been wondering about that as well. It seems like Christianity, the religion our forefathers were conquered into adopting (as far as I’m aware), has weakened our race, pacifying us into this strange tolerance of everything that harms us. I’ve been reading some books by Revilo Pendleton Oliver, and his book about Christianity and the Survival of the West intrigues me. Have we lost touch with our ways, because of Christianity, that we now “turn the other cheek” for our enemies, and even welcome them so much as to miscegenate, as long as they believe in the same imaginary sky god? I went to a Christian Bible study group last weekend, and I was asking the two leaders (a married White couple) about why we tolerate race-mixing in the church (there were mixed couples in the group, but I stayed late and asked this after those couples went home). I even proposed a “hypothetical” scenario to them, about the higher average intelligence of Whites and mixing with lower average intelligence non-whites, and the group leaders saw it as a non-issue because intelligence and character didn’t matter – only the belief in God did. Absolutely astounding. I tried to point out that even the mere genocide of us Whites (extermination over time/generations) is of grave concern, but they didn’t see race as mattering at all, only faith. Things like that, and seeing White women with non-White men (or just multiracial kids/young adults), are becoming extremely bothersome to me anymore. Then I learn about serial killers like Joseph Franklin, who murdered interracial couples, and wonder what methods will work to save us if direct approaches like murder of undesirables don’t, and trying to educate indoctrinated persons doesn’t always work out either. We’re in quite a predicament, and I’m wondering what of our ancestors’ paganistic beliefs would help bring about that cultural transformation we so desperately need to save the decimation of our people – or what other options remain. That’s why I like Ben Klassen’s idea, to bring faith and blood together (did pagan views involve that? I don’t know), with his Creativity movement and Church of the Creator (in the sense that we Whites are creators, not God). He suggests that unless or until we of European descent can establish and adhere en masse to a racial religion (to have racial loyalty and unity in the defense of our ways/existence), as the Jews have with their Judaism, we are ultimately doomed.

[Leo]

@Teddy and @Phoenix

I’ve had some lingering thoughts akin to yours (in your posts #24092 and #24093, not #24120, lol). I sometimes think of hypothetical scenarios about how else I could start a family, if unable to secure a lifelong wife willing to have several children. Many such scenarios involve scrapping ethics entirely. With some past girlfriends, who didn’t want as many kids as I do, I would contemplate what I’d have to do in a dilemma where I’ve only a couple kids with one woman (which isn’t enough) I married, who thereafter refuses to have more. I’ve spoken with women who don’t want kids at all, and I just find that insane – selfish if nothing else. But what are we to do, when our own counterparts don’t even want kids anymore, when they rarely seek male companions, and when they’ve been brought up in a horrendous, anti-life and anti-family culture? Part of me wants to admit there’s a reason men are physically more powerful than women (and that reality may help save us, after all, if it ever comes down to that), but a larger part of me wants to remain moral and think of how much more marvelous life would be with a woman who genuinely wants to be with me, be a mother, and help raise healthy White children. The alternative seems infinitely less appealing, but how else can we change the trends of our White majority nations? Changing the attitudes of an entire society takes multiple generations (as Jews have done and continue to do against us) – and we don’t have that kind of time to reverse the damage done, as individual men necessarily seeking women to procreate with. So, for now, I think I’m resorting to selecting an extraordinary or fitting woman whom I’ll have to re-educate, unless I luck out with a woman who already comes from a healthy background and awareness of what’s happening to our White majority nations.

[Aster]

@Hunter I’m not going to post your other account name here because I want you to have your privacy. And I guess women might not even see it anyway. Just know that some of us won’t put up with your crap and won’t be your slave. It’s not about dominance or submission, it’s about self-respect and self-interest. If they like you, and you respect them, then they will “submit,” if it’s in their interest. They will let you “dominate.” I’m sure a lot more could be said, but I don’t want to get any deeper here at the moment. These are just some quick thoughts of mine.

[Aster]

@Hunter I saw you made another account here to try to make a better impression on women. I think they should be made aware of some of your posts though, like the one you just made here.
You also have a lot growing up to do. You have to grow out of blaming your parents and others for your issues. I’ve come across a lot of your posts over the years, and that’s one of the impressions I’ve gotten. It’s strange how you hate your mother, but she was a slave to your father which you think is the ideal.

I might be in the minority here, but someone has to stand up for others and women, so they don’t potentially get hurt by someone like Sigma. I hope he sees my notes to him here.

[Ted]

@Hunter

Women may be evolved around being less dominant, but I’m with Adolf on this one: each has their domain, and each should try to make cohabitation work.

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[Hunter]

@Sigma, ‘amen’ brotha, at a certain point you come to realize that women (any female past the start of puberty) do not deserve love until they give it. I’ve spent my life ignoring all those who have wronged me ‘turning the other cheek’, and trying to be positive regardless of what ‘energy’ I am given… I have almost nothing good to show for it. Our ‘unconverted’ ancestors would not approve and I’m thinking that they were more right than my dead preacher father and his ever loyal (so much for ‘in death do us part’) slave, my mother. This will be controversial, but naturalistically speaking, females being the slaves of males is the most stable patriarchal society, and the society where females will most love their males. That said, on the flip side, a matriarchal society is possible too, but it requires mothers and other close female relations to take care of (all) male needs either directly or by proxy. The feminist society we have now is neither matriarchal nor patriarchal, and the break down of society (and the extinction of our subspecies) is inevitable so long as we fail to embrace true matriarchy or return to true patriarchy.

[Oscar]

“How much of your time alive are you willing…”

“Everybody has a plan until they get punched by the circumstances of life” (Almost) Mike Tyson.

(I see there is progress on the forum, we can at last now read page 2, even if a non-binary/chronologic way (Autist-Elon has obviously not yet reached WD), 2025 will be a great year.)

[Aster]

@Sigma You almost give off serial killer vibes with your post. Please be careful, and try to work through how you’ve been wronged, so you don’t pass it along to others.

[Aster]

Okay, it looks like the posts are ordered in the opposite direction at the moment.

@Uli There are a lot of misconceptions surrounding women’s biological clock. Your overall health is more of a determinant than age. Don’t let beliefs about mid-30s births scare you. “Technically” seems to be usually wrong in a lot of areas, meaning not the full picture to me.

[Aster]

I know these cases are way outside of the norm, but I’ve known of a 64-year-old woman who gave birth to twins. She died when she was 80, and when they were 16. And there were those two male celebrities, of Italian descent, who fathered kids when they were around 80. Lol

@Sigma Try not to return the energy you were given, please. No one deserves that. Not you either.

[Sigma]

Men are going to give it an honest try and be good men until we hit 40, then we’re going to start pumping n dumping and running through women and returning the energy we were given and the incels are going to do even more drastic things if you know what I mean.

[Uli]

For women, the biological clock is more cruel. At 26, I already feel like an “elderly woman”, because technically I only have a few years left, especially to have a calm and uneventful birth. After 30 or 35, childbirth becomes much more tiring, in addition to increasing potential problems such as premature birth, miscarriage, Down syndrome, etc.

Anyway, I know of a woman who started having children at 29 and had 8 births! Only one died and the others were completely healthy.

[Hunter]

40. 40 is my hard limit, if I can’t find a wife that checks my most important boxes by then, I’ll go the direct payment route and find some ‘sugar babies’ that are, at least, physically attractive. Alternatively, I’d ‘vacation’ in Ukraine and pay to use love.me …an expensive and useless scam service—since they don’t let you exchange contact information—unless you already have a trip booked to Eastern Europe.

[Ted]

I’m starting to compromise at age 37. As signs of aging start to set in, it lights a fire under me that I didn’t have in my 20’s. However, I do consider turning money into children by doing not only the surrogate, but paying some high-stats college girl (likely ruined by feminism anyways) for one of her egg sacks, so I can increase my odds of having engineer children. Having been raised by a single dad, I suppose becoming a single dad feels oddly normal.

I don’t plan to go this route, but since you asked about other alternatives to children out there, literally cloning. Champion race horses get clones in real life, regularly. They insisted they never do humans in a 60 minutes interview. Bullshit. If the money and technology is there, it’s happening. If you’re interested in raising your infant identical twin, it’s out there.

[Leo]

How much of your time alive are you willing to allow pass, as you continue aging and your likelihood of being capable of procreating reduces (male or female), before you set aside some of your most important values or preferences of a mate, and instead date or accept someone as your partner – even if that might mean making uncomfortable compromises?

I’m wondering about those of us who are already beyond our 20s, well into our 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond, and curious by what age and under what circumstances you think you’ll have to negotiate within yourself to welcome someone less-than-desirable into your life as a potential co-parent of your child(ren), so long as they’re still White?

I mean, wouldn’t the alternative be that you remain childless – or, I suppose, use a surrogate (a practice I personally disagree with, but I understand others out there would use this if necessary), or some other means of reproducing I may not be familiar with? I’m genuinely interested in how others feel about this, if they’re nearing permanent childlessness due to age, health, etc.

As for me, I’m probably still a long ways off from being too old and having to set aside some of my own standards, but surprise accidents or health-endangering situations can happen to anybody. The longer we’re alive, the lower our chances remain for survival and reproduction, naturally. I’m thinking, by the time I’m in my mid-to-late 40s, I’d start making compromises (but I obviously expect to find an ideal or ideal-ish partner significantly sooner than that).

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