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@Ted: Good points. I’m not a marketing guy at all…

[Ted]

@deckenfarbe
What don’t I like about it?
Very wordy for an advertisement.
Image doesn’t work that well with all the text in front of it.
I think the very pointy letters and dots inside of “O” and “U”s is a bit distracting.

It’s got a line in there at the end about not being racist, but everyone left of center will scream racist at it anyways. It feels weak and pandering to hostile forces to do that, and a bad use of advertisement space. If you want some legal cover, put it in fine print. Maybe some Whites need a message that tells them “It’s not racist to date White people”, maybe that helps them get over their artificially imposed hang-ups, but it didn’t work for me anyways. I acknowledge White underground propagandists have a long history of being ineffective because they made propaganda that appealed to themselves rather than the broad masses.

I haven’t really thought through a good alternative, but I think we want an unblocked photo that conveys something desirable on a deep level. I think there should only be a line or two in large letters, and then have some smaller text for those that were intrigued enough for a closer look.

@Jamesman
I’ve long noticed “algorithm riding” to bury things. For example, look up “social engineering” and all you’re going to get is non-technical ways to hack into organizations’ systems.

I honestly don’t have a clue what fertile-age White Women are browsing for. Pumpkin Spice? Astrology? Weight loss? Book club trends? Might be worth some research.

@Leo
I’m generally available (struggling to work on my projects, frittering from one invention idea to the next). You hike, there’s a bunch of trails around here. Whatever you’re feeling up for, I’ll see it in a DM, or less frequently protonmail.

Sucks you have to move over a state for work.
I’ve basically stalled-out finding women here.
I have a hard time getting the people I mentioned to look at evidence. They can only tolerate so much before they dismiss it as untrue propaganda. I think they, and many like them, are a bit mentally lazy when it comes to this sort of topic, and are always looking for an easy dismissal. Their preferred entertainment furthermore feeds them tons of copes to use when parts of their worldview are undermined.

My Dad thinks I’m a conspiracy monger too. He’s up in a dander about Elon being a Nazi currently.

If the Jews don’t think they need to genocide you to rule the world, that’s a bad sign for your race.

That’s very good to hear that you get through to some people. Thanks for taking those risks, even after losing the Irishman. The people you awaken may tell others, and who knows, maybe this game of telephone leads to the next hero to organize an effective resistance.

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What exactly is your gripe with this advert? It’s maybe not perfect, but on the other hand, it appears to be not very easy to target, either.

[Leo]

@Teddy

I think it would be cool if we met up again someday, but perhaps under different circumstances (what that looks like yet, I’ve no idea). I did temporarily relocate back to Washington state, because Donald Trump apparently signed an executive order demanding government personnel (I’m a contractor, not a government employee – ew, even the idea irks me, lol) back to working in-person. So, my colleagues and I are making our way back to the office, which is somewhat interrupting my secondary career, travel, income and even life plans, lol. But it means I’m around again, if you ever want to link up (although I find it comical I’m more interested in reuniting with a man I met on a dating website, than the 3 women that I also met through it, lol).

‘Conversion’ through conversation does require a lot more effort than guerilla marketing, but I also find it more successful and rewarding, if I haven’t already mentioned that elsewhere on the forum. That said, it can also involve turmoil and, for me, loss of friendships and other close connections, too. My Polish buddy in New Jersey is extremely thankful for me bringing to his (and his Ukrainian girlfriend’s) attention the Jewish problem and White genocide, whereas my Irish [former] friend in England thinks I’m a racist and can’t believe what kind of monster I’ve become, lol. My own parents think I’m a conspiracy nutcase, but they themselves don’t care that much for non-Whites, especially illegal immigrants and negroes. To each their own. But it’s vital that we spread awareness among ourselves, those of our own kind, because it’ll take a mass awakening to change the trajectory we’re currently on.

If it’s of any help, I’ve noticed it’s best to present evidence from various sources, especially videos or documents that you can share directly with others. You don’t want to rely on only one source, but multiple and from all kinds of different perspectives – share what Jews are saying about Whites, what Blacks are saying about Jews, what Whites today are saying compared to what Whites 75 years ago were saying. Show them the data in how American approval of miscegenation has completely shifted from 1958 to 2021, and point out truths like how someone is White because none of their ancestors ever mixed with non-Whites, or how miscegenation is genocide over time/generations. Mentioning the racial differences in humans, especially with regard to intelligence and character, can also be worth mentioning (since I figure the main reason White genocide is happening is because we Whites are the only race intelligent and independent enough to resist Jewry). Try to refrain from being opinionated unless they ask for your opinions. Share the truth, and nothing but the truth, and you’d be surprised by how shocked yet welcoming people can be with what we have to share.

Just this past month, I ‘converted’ my Mormon AirBnB host, during the few weeks I lived with her, and she actually thanked me for educating her on a couple evenings that we talked, and again when I moved out. That’s what I find very motivating (and rewarding), when people are receptive enough, keep asking their own questions, and eventually prove extremely appreciative of what you’re sharing and doing, not only for them, but for our entire race.

[Jamesman]

Coming from a background in sales, the best guerrilla marketing takes advantage of what people are thinking and doing, not what they are saying. IE, that anti-vax documentary Died Suddenly took advantage of a phrase everybody was entering into their search engines in late 2021-2022, which let them explode without any real marketing strategy that was top down.

Selling White date means attracting white women who will take an interest in the future. What are those types of white women doing right now that you can ride the algorithm wave after? That should be the first question.

[Ted]

@Leo

That was a good evening a while back.

If this thread doesn’t get any traction, I’m definitely interested in the topic of converting through conversation. I’ve got two high value people I’m trying to persuade and it’s not going well. One’s a rich old boomer, the other is a small business owner with a dozen employees.

[Leo]

@Teddy

My advertising experience is also minimal, as I’ve never taken much interest in persuading other people into parting ways from what matters to them (their hard-earned money and attention), especially by way of profiteering or influencing their thoughts and behaviors. I also find most forms of advertising to be extremely annoying, disrespectful even, in the sense of wasting my time and attention on useless products, services, or causes that are typically of no relevance to me. But obviously that’s different with WhiteDate.net and racial loyalty.

That said, on a few occasions, I have managed to go around local businesses and speak with either managers or business owners, about displaying some pro-White (for the film, Europa: Last Battle) and/or WhiteDate.net material in their storefront windows (with a lot of agreement up of allowing so, until their eventual learning and rejecting of the content). I’ve also visited several mainstream stores like Barnes & Noble (where I figure more intelligent women go) or large shopping malls, and tactfully but quickly placed flyers, business cards, goodie bags, etc around. Sometimes, I’ll keep a stash of materials in my car, and if I ever see an attractive White woman (or group of them) exiting their vehicle in any parking lot I’m also in, then I go and place it in their windshield while we’re both on our way into the business. I don’t know how effective any of this has been, but I’ve been doing it anyway, with hope, of course.

I had also considered placing a large message on the roadside billboards (along the Interstate 5 and Highway 101 corridors), until I learned how expensive they are. I even reached out to marketing firms, but was quoted ridiculously high prices during consultations; seriously, tens of thousands of dollars, for mobile advertising (direct to phones or on moving vehicles). I can’t remember all the jargon anymore, but I do recall the costs being ridiculous and me figuring that guerilla marketing remained the best way forward. I never got around to this for WhiteDate (although I did for my own local events platform), but I did consider placing flyers on the college bulletin boards and/or otherwise passing them out around college campuses and libraries. I placed many at the trailheads in my area (back when I was living in Washington state – I’m in Idaho now), since I figured healthy women would notice. I had a couple friends handout flyers at their gyms and local bars (again, not for WhiteDate, but for my White-exclusive events group). Again, I’m not sure how effective these were, how many people actually signed up because of seeing a flyer (although I feel like it wasn’t many). I did place some WhiteDate flyers on a few public bulletins, in laundromats and at the entryway of some locally owned supermarkets, but those were taken down within a day or few. One of my buddies owns a deli in New Jersey, and he agreed to display business cards for WhiteDate there, until we ran out of stock (since the lady who initially printed them for me now refuses to do so). The idea remains though: there are so many methods to bring all this to the attention of many other Whites, and the only way it’ll happen is if we get out there and do it ourselves.

There have been many instances of others in our cause being caught passing our materials, or placing materials strategically, and they oftentimes get charged with littering – hilariously absurd. I’d advise to get the messages out there, but don’t stick around long enough for someone to identify or interact with you. And feel free to make your own materials, or download some from the countless other online resources, if you don’t like my own, lol. Nowadays, since I’ve become much more involved and knowledgeable in our movement, I think I could produce something much better anyway. But I’ve been spending more time “converting” people through conversation lately, sharing DVDs, books, and showing them video or source document evidence. It’s a much slower process, because I’ve to focus on a select few folks at a time, but it’s working with what I feel is a higher success rate than placing flyers around. Regardless, there are so many ways to approach this, and every step we take helps, no matter how.

Anyways, I know we haven’t talked much since meeting up some months ago, but I hope you’re doing very well, buddy. Always a pleasure to read through your posts on here.

[Ted]

There are single digit WhiteDate women in my State, and mainstream dating sites aren’t good for my objectives.

I have no advertising experience, but from studying social engineering, I understand it usually relies on emotion and subconscious desires. Like good memes, they tend to be brief and rely heavily on the image.

I was given some WhiteDate promotional materials already, but I want to see what we can come up with.

Idea 1: Road side/over passes: target adult women who commute to a job. Needs to be ultra brief, like 6 words, due to passing speed. Pro: extremely high volume of views. Con: Authorities and de-facto authorities instantly notice.

Idea 2: Near high schools / colleges. Young women like bad boys, and being pro-white is subversive and ballsy. Pro: highly desirable female ages. Con: retaliation from high school/college Marxists.

Idea 3: Public parks with trails: Seen by people of all ages who have at least one healthy habit. Pro: Easy to place without getting caught. Con: Will be seen as tasteless for defiling a natural area with advertising.

Here’s an example of the aforementioned materials I wasn’t satisfied with:

If you want to up load images in this forum, you can use imgbb.com/upload, and select HTML full linked.

Also, be careful how you phrase things in this thread. Unauthorized advertising is probably illegal, but like lemonade stands, small violations of business rules are often given a pass.

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