[Ted]

Thanks for making this thread, digital ID is one of my biggest concerns. Judging by “The New Order Of the Barbarians” by Dr. Lawrence Dunegan, this has been part of a plan to enslave the public since before 1969. It is absolutely a slave collar being gently fitted around our collective necks (or rather under our skin), and will be used coercively when enough of our lives are in their hands that they don’t think we’ll be able to fight back.

I could be doing more. I could at least use a credit union instead of a bank for my paychecks (I think my employer may require the direct deposit). I have a lot of silver, but I haven’t found anyone to trade it with for goods. I’m expecting real-ID in 2025 to be the end of me flying, even if work would require it.

I dropped Paypal after it leaked that they were tentatively planning to fine users something like $2500 for “hate speech” (as defined by the ADL and SPLC). They reeled it back quickly, but that trial balloon was enough for me to bail.

Resistance works if enough people join in. The manufactures and distributors of covid thought they’d get 90% compliance and steamroller the remaining 10% with heavy-handed methods. The fact they only got 70% is the only reason it doesn’t take a vaccine passport on a smart phone to go to the grocery store now. However, when the method of achieving biometric digital ID doesn’t come in the form of zero-liability experimental gene therapy, but instead internet security or some sort of ID system to prove US citizenship to facilitate mass deportations, will 30%+ still resist?

I wish I could be part of a parallel economy. I think parallel systems are key when the primary system serves to gradually exterminate Whites and help Jews enslave Gentiles in the long run. I don’t know how to find an underground buyer for engineering hours, but if I can launch a company off an invention idea, maybe that could give me the power to do SOMETHING to help locally.

There’s websites here and there that encourage Monero use and list businesses that accept that cryptocurrency, but they don’t tend to sell necessities. Maybe with some capital, underground advertising, and a few people willing to risk shit with the IRS, goods could be fenced from common online vendors and traded to people for Monero. The party trading Monero gets to buy things without electronic records linking it to them. There’s demand for that.

I’d be interested in an internet cafe that has no security cameras and gives anonymous internet service. Such a place would probably become a natural meeting place for anti-surveillance contacts. As long as they have some way to keep getting ISP service again (after customers inevitably look up kiddie porn and bomb recipes), and are incorporated in a way to avoid legal liability, it could be a beautiful thing for a time.

Maybe with a couple years of promotion, there could be a crowd-funded maximally anonymizing payment processor and ISP?

There’s a lot to know about online opsec. Mental Outlaw and Rob Braxman are good resources. Alphabet can track browsers, so use a separate browser that never goes to Google, Youtube, Facebook, etc.

I also get locked out of things for not being able to do phone verification. You just find alternatives or get by without it.

Just the otherday I noticed Winco doesn’t accept credit cards. I always pay in cash, but that makes me like the employee-owned co-op more to know they’re cash, check, or debit only.

[Leo]

For those of you who have also used the Internet during much of the past couple decades, I have some explaining to do; with several points to make, a scenario to share, and some curiosities to ask of you. It’s a rather lengthy post for what I’m after, but I’d like to see how our experiences and perspectives compare on the matter, of an increasingly-compelling yet avoidable, tyrannical digital identity system (that should be resisted – at all costs) that we’re seemingly sleepwalking into:

Do you remember when we could somewhat retain anonymity online, without personalizing our online experience to the extent it is today? Back when we could use handles/pseudonyms and short, carefree passwords for accounts that had no relationship to our real-world identities and information, didn’t even involve email addresses or phone numbers, with logins as simple as a username and password – before all those pesky password requirements, such as character-count, capitalization, symbols, forced-changes, or login verifications came into play.

I imagine most of you have noticed, over time, around the late 2000s and early 2010s, that email addresses were gradually adopted and used universally for logins across most websites. Out with the usernames, in with the email addresses. Some of us were grandfathered in, but new users to platforms were not. Coinciding with this change was the introduction of convenient account creation processes and logins using Google and Facebook accounts – plus other major social media and online platforms that we typically associated our real-world identities with.

Throughout the 2010s, so many of us willingly provided our phone numbers online, too, associating our email addresses, debit/credit card information, shopping habits, and physical address with our accounts online. We typically did so on platforms for anything that involved online payments, such as Amazon, DoorDash, eBay, or PayPal. I mean, how else would we receive deliveries without offering our billing and shipping addresses, and real-world payment and identity information, when ordering items online? Some of us were even foolish enough to agree to biometric logins (such as fingerprint or retina scans), but enough of us didn’t participate in that, so the trend quickly died out (albeit still an option, especially encouraged in other areas, such as at airports).

We even began personalizing a lot of our online content; profiles with pictures of ourselves, biography sections, and other personal data. It started with gender, age, and location, and grew into so much more: religious and political views, family members and intimate relationships, likes and interests, and other characteristics about ourselves. The vast majority of the online services we use, are offered free-of-charge; and that almost always means that we, ourselves and our information, are the product – that our data is being harvested and we are being exploited at the benefit of the platform owners, especially when it comes to seemingly omnipresent advertising. And there’s also a push to connect so many of our accounts online, bringing everything together under a centralized login. We’ve been so gently caressed, into providing so much about our lives onto the Internet (and I’m no exception), with hardly any concern about the consequences.

Eventually, email address and phone number verifications and multi-factor or two-factor authentication logins of the late 2010s and 2020s came about, too – happening now, actually. I imagine many of us participate in these, and give them little thought of what direction this takes us. Anytime we login to most of our accounts, we are prompted to perform additional so-called “security checks” in order to finish logging in, by using an app, email, or text message. Email addresses/usernames and passwords are no longer good enough anymore, on most major platforms, to login – even though that was once all we ever needed. But now we need to provide 4- to 6-digit codes received via text message or email, just to be allowed to login to our own accounts, all under the false guise of safety and security. Today, we can actually be denied access to our own accounts, while knowing the correct login information, unless we provide said code(s) – evidenced by my own experiences, detailed later, below.

We’ve even reached the point where it’s become normalized to verify our identities by capturing “selfies,” uploading them online, and otherwise becoming verified through various means. So, if it isn’t already obvious, I gradually caught on to this trend of connecting all our identity and other real-world information – verification became the name of the game. Verify your identity; verify, verify, verify. Try calling the customer support numbers of most major platforms, and find out what they try to get you to do, every time you call in: please verify your identity with your account’s phone number. Workarounds to avoid code verifications can include providing information such as card or account numbers, answers to security questions, a physical shipping or billing address, credit history, et cetera – but that’s not always an option, and when it is it’s always inconvenient compared to other methods.

My noticing of this infrastructure being built up around us, with narratives about digital wallets and digital identity or the vaccine passports and certificates, has triggered me into noncompliance anymore. There is a concerted agenda to bring all this together, at some point, to connect all our identification cards and online presence, into one centralized identity or system. The digitalization of almost everything formerly physical, and our never-ending dependence on electricity and the Internet for our everyday needs, has become of grave concern, too. Banking? Delivery? Registration? Healthcare? Insurance? School? Dating? Everything’s online. I’d be curious what all we can still do in the physical world, without the Internet and/or making constant phone calls (which I’ve been doing a lot of lately). Accessing everyday needs becomes (and will continue to become extremely) difficult, without using the Internet or a smartphone, I suspect. I’m learning that the hard way, now.

For those of you who don’t know, I switched email service providers, from Gmail to TutaMail (because I saw this becoming a problem ushered in by the race of people, Jews, who own/control Google, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, most American social media and financial institutions, et cetera), and decided to try a little social experiment: to try living without this stuff anymore. I figured, if there’s an agenda underway with all these controlled major platforms, then it was time for me to switch to the little guy, with some alternative options, that don’t practice all these so-called “security” measures. Gmail requires me to provide a verification code whenever I log in on an unfamiliar device (at a public library computer, for example, since I no longer have devices of my own – which I’ll discuss soon), from the phone number I no longer have. I switched to TutaMail over the course of a couple months (it took a while to transition most things over), because it’s a German company I’m willing to trust and support, that doesn’t require all this identity verification nonsense to login – just an email address and a password, as direct as that.

Earlier this year, I got rid of my personal computer. I canceled my phone service and sold off my smartphone (I now use an old-school flip-phone with a different/new phone number, for phone calls and alarms only – nothing else), too. No more apps, no more photography, no more global-positioning system guidance, no more media (including music via smartphone Bluetooth technology; I switched to audio CDs, as my older car fortunately has a CD player and auxiliary connection), no more text messaging, and – most importantly – no more unproductive waste of precious time alive, suffering from occasional screen addiction and being constantly influenced or advertised to by those who control online information, whom obviously do not have our best interests in mind. I’m sure we’re all affected by this to varying extents, but especially those of us who grew up with the Internet (Millennials and younger generations). It was time to read through books at a faster frequency, get outdoors so much more, learn some new skills, deepen the connections with those around me, and, see how far from the digital world I could go.

Skipping a lot of details and personal realizations, to get to the point: after giving up a lot of my personal devices, I soon learned that I could no longer access my Google, PayPal, or YouTube accounts, when attempting to access them later on, from a public library computer. Why? Because I no longer had that phone number that once belonged to me. Without the ability to provide a verification code text messaged to that phone number, I can no longer access my YouTube or Google/Gmail accounts (which I was using for almost everything online). I’m offered no other option to access my Google/Gmail account, except to provide a verification code received by text message; which cannot be done, considering I no longer have that phone number, and Gmail customer support is nonexistent. Without that Gmail, I couldn’t receive email verifications to access my PayPal account. I lost access to about 600 videos that I had uploaded onto my already-censored YouTube channel. I also lost access to ~40,000 images stored on Google Photos, of my travels around the world (some of which I backed up elsewhere, but certainly not all of them). Hilariously, too, I learned that Google/Gmail apparently charges money now (I don’t think this was always the case, was it?), in the form of a monthly subscription, to send/receive emails and perform other basic functions, when your Google account’s data exceeds 15 GB. I had about 300 GB of data stored with them – and all of it is no longer accessible (and will eventually be deleted by Google after a certain amount of time my Google/Gmail account is inactive).

When I was stuck unable to login to my PayPal account (that I know the username/email and password to, just as I also know my Google/Gmail and YouTube accounts I can’t access), I decided to call the PayPal customer support line. I spent over an hour on the phone with PayPal, speaking to 3 different individuals as the matter was escalated, when I refused to provide a new phone number to replace my old one, for text message verifications, to finish logging into my PayPal account. For the alternative of login verification codes by email, I learned that Gmail can receive such codes from PayPal, but TutaMail cannot; PayPal refuses to send login verification codes to TutaMail, over “privacy” concerns. PayPal also disallows removal of a phone number from a PayPal account, unless providing and verifying a new phone number (which I refused to do). So, a former phone number that doesn’t belong to me anymore, is forever attached to a PayPal account that does belong to me, and I am unable to access my own PayPal account while I have the correct information to access it. When I try to login to PayPal, I’m prompted to receive a text message or phone call (to the phone number I don’t have), to tap/access something within the PayPal or WhatsApp apps (which I don’t have/use and cannot do without a smartphone) to verify my login, or to scan my face – which, laughably, is never going to happen. How ridiculous is that? Scan your face and we will allow you to login to the account you know the correct login information to! I’ll be closing my PayPal account over this nonsense.

Is this really our situation today, wherein we are denied access to online services for refusing to give up our privacy (not that it exists on the Internet anymore anyway), to provide a phone number, or to have a smartphone at all? That reeks of coercion, as much as every measure to get vaccinated for COVID-19 did – a vaccine which I, as most of you, did not get. What happens next, when we can no longer perform or access our everyday online needs, or files, from a public or personal device, without giving up our personal liberties and privacies, or complying with the absurd policy changes of these corporations? Why is it necessary for us to have a smartphone or phone number to participate in society online? Are we being mandated to keep these slave screens and surveillance devices on us at all times, to do anything on the Internet – and, eventually, anything in the real-world, too?

I won’t even elaborate on all the changes that have been introduced with food accessibility (such as using scanners to shop, as seen in Seattle, or swiping credit/debit cards or a smartphone to enter some grocery stores – such as Amazon Go or markets I have seen at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City), payment options, QR codes, driver’s licenses and other identification cards (such as passports, library cards, membership cards, national park passes, et cetera) or travel, especially airport/airline travel, but there are blatant steps being taken to prepare us for acceptance of a digital identity. Oh, and let’s not forget how difficult most device manufacturers made it to disable 5G on our smartphones – but that’s a separate situation. Something horrendous isn’t on the horizon, it’s already here, and we are being expected to trade over all our real-world choices and information, in order to participate in society online (but eventually real-world, too). Without participating in this maturing digital identity system, we will be refused access to not only parts (and eventually all of) the Internet, but also public services and spaces again, such as grocery stores or restaurants, just like before (when we refused to wear a mask, get COVID-19 tested, or get “vaccinated” against COVID-19).

So, I am slowly transitioning out of the Internet, and away from all personal electronics, without all this digital insanity I largely grew up with and/or adopted in my adolescence and young adulthood, before my dependency becomes unbreakable – as it probably already is for too many others out there, maybe even you reading this. I mean, how many of us rely on ACH direct deposit payments from our employers and/or other sources of income, compared to paper checks or cash? My biggest challenge is how to access my finances without Internet or online banking, but perhaps our biggest challenge should be how to survive without dishonest fiat money at all. Learning to live as we did prior to the late 1990s and early 2000s is no problem, but learning to live as we did prior to electricity and a corrupted finance system, is another story entirely. We have almost been conquered by subtle means, dependent on anti-White/anti-life systems, and few barely even realize how captured we’ve become – but we will when the dominoes start to fall. Are we on the verge of a mass subjugation, and/or of starvation for those who refuse to comply with technocracy? There must be other choices, ways forward of getting out of this mess.

My question to you is: what do you think of all this, how have your lived experiences related to my own, and what will you be doing about it to ensure the continued survival and prosperity of yourself and our kind outside of Internet dependency (for those of you this applies to)?

Looking for some wise ideas, from all the great White minds out there.

PS – Please don’t misconstrue any of this as me being in opposition to using WhiteDate.net. I recognize that we personalize our profiles on here (as would be necessary when dating online), use email addresses to login, can become White verified, et cetera. My dissatisfaction is with the developing digital identity system and our growing dependency on the Internet, particularly into dark corners that we’re being coerced into, with so much unnecessary nonsense – brought about by persons not connected with WhiteDate.net whatsoever. I absolutely adore the WhiteDate community, especially the founder Liv, and would never advise against it nor speak against her in any way, so please don’t read this post that way. If being here is meaningful to you, as it is to me (for however much longer I’m around), then please continue to support and grow this community – thus, our dating pool! Thank you for reading (and replying, for those of you who take the time to do so).

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