[MetalWP]

i tell you what i wouldn’t do. i wouldn’t participate in democracy then elect a multi cultural lesbian lol

[deckenfarbe]

You gravely understate the meddling of Jews on all sides, but in particular, by PNAC to use Ukrainians as pawns. In 2014, they would have willingly surrendered, but in 2022, PNAC’s work and Jewish money has successfully turned the tides to make this massive bloodbath between Whites possible. Great job!

At this point, a “Westernized” Ukraine would be just a tool to break down Russia, but we Europeans need Russia in order to defend against the attacks from both the US and China. Prove me wrong.

[deckenfarbe]

I have left my home country many years ago, but intend to go back if my country (not “my” government!) is calling. And it will be.

The prime directive is to stay out of trouble and prepare for “day X”. You can’t fight if you are in prison, or if you have been successfully targeted by any of the usual suspects before that day.

[deckenfarbe]

You do have to choose your battles wisely. While I share quite some of the criticisms of Russia, fighting the war in Ukraine as-is only massively decimates White Christian Russians and White Christian Ukrainians while bolstering the positions of Jews and Muslims in both countries. Russia appears to have created quite a strong sense of national unity and also quite a bit of military power that we can’t match, with a few nukes in reserve for just in case. You tell me how “starting from Kursk” will help the White cause, where this point is exactly pressing a pain point of the Russian war trauma and giving the perfect lever for motivation to the Kremlin.

[Ted]

1) No organism that gives up the struggle for survival has a future.

2) A group that fails to perceive itself as a group is doomed to others that do.

3) A small minority writes public programming. They have addresses. They use transportation.

4) The rot is based out of cities. Cities die without bridges, electricity, or water.

5) Those fighting for unnecessary material gains have dramatically less tenacity than those fighting for group survival.

6) Mass surveillance and infiltration are most useful for putting out small furtive fires. Study operational security.

7) There’s time enough to deprogram a generation of children and get their help as adults.

8) Our enemies are motivated by propaganda since childhood, counter propaganda can reduce their fervor.

9) Think about the situation from the enemy’s perspective. If you were trying to eliminate Whites and rule the Browns with a world government, what would you be afraid of going wrong?

10) Complacency and inaction are our greatest weakness, even more so than empathy for out-group members, or an easily hijacked instinct for reciprocity (more vulnerable to guilting). What would it take for you to take some personal risks?

We can’t run forever, but there is sense in consolidating ourselves.

[Tony]

There is no flight only fight left atleast on this planet. Perhaps one day we can explore and spacefare as a race but only after the inevitable showdown which must be fought whether one agrees with that assertion or not.

Helter Skelter will come. In our lifetimes. It will be hellish. But we must steel ourselves against such an inevitability. The hard times will come. Only the strong, smart and versatile shall survive this greatest of all tests for our race.

[Aster]

@Uli Yeah, homeschooling is also prohibited in Germany, but Germans could in theory protest against that. But they aren’t aware enough, in enough numbers, to do something about it, it seems like.

I think the EU has also helped deteriorate white Europeans’ loyalty to their nations, if EU inhabitants are able to easily move from one nation to another within the EU. Similar to the United States’ “internal empire,” which contributes to our rootlessness, and results in whites becoming an itinerant deracinated peopleless people. We don’t have the incentives a small nation state has. Blood and soil are important.

I can’t see the second page of this thread, but oh well haha. Maybe it’ll be fixed soon.

[RealHighlander]

I’m interested in learning more about you. Let’s chat. # (240) 486-8762. JD,

[EastNordid]

@Dean_Leon, @Uli
The ”biological norm” for a woman was about ~seven pregnancies in the pre-industrial world and harsh Darwinian selection pressure ”culled” (for the lack of a better term) 40%-50% of children (with weak immune systems) before they’d reach their first/fifth birthday, before the advent of antibiotics and improved hygiene practices etc. So out of five children, three would make it past their fifth birthday.

Sth. I’ve noticed in the Alt-media/or the ”Dissident Right” for some time is you have these commentators(gullible/grifters/bad-faith actors) who LOVE to stress the importance of making more people sympathetic to nationalism, “stopping the Great Replacement” and “Reclaiming our countries”. Yet at the same time these same commentators don’t believe that this “right to self-determination of Whites” should be extended to Ukrainians and they will very often deny Ukrainians their statehood as well as demonize Ukrainian nationalism, ignore the Kremlin importing infinity Central Asians to Mariupol which IS literal forced replacement, or even deny their past genocides (Holodomor) and be at least silent when Russian gov’t advisors (like Alexander Dugin) call openly for new ones against Ukrainians (like what Dugin said back in 2014 when he was asked as professor, what Russia should do with the militarily occupied Crimea and Donbas).

So you admit the Reconquista was absolutely necessary (which I do agree with) because that was a non-White invasion against the European continent. Without the Battle of Tours or Defence of Vienna the future of Europe would’ve taken another direction.

I’m going to say this again: the only party that wants war (in Ukraine) is Putin (he GRAVELY underestimated how much Ukrainians were willing to resist his botched invasion attempt) and his fellow KGB cronies or they’ll face politcal & literal physical suicide, the ones who are showing restraint are the fence-sitting Western “leaders” (who don’t actually want to see Russia collapse, by sending just enough weapons with massive restrictions attached (this war would be far shorter if they wouldn’t be such fence-sitters) meanwhile the Muscovites do as they please, they haven’t changed their ways since medieval times).
Western countries cannot just force Ukraine to “give up land” because their constitution prevents it without a countrywide referendum and a majority of Ukrainians are fiercely nationalistic and will not accept anything short of the borders of 1992 and decent security guarantees (aka de-facto nuclear status (so Russia will never attempt an invasion again)). When the right day comes all diaspora Ukrainians have to go back to fullfil their duty of rebuilding their home no matter what. It’s a matter of principle even if the living standards aren’t on par with other European countries.

I’ll address the whole deal with Zelensky: back in 2019 he was the complete opposite, he wanted to sell the occupied territories to Putin and there’s a video of him telling Azov to drop their weapons and accept a ceasefire with the Kremlin-backed terrorists and Azov just stood there promptly told Zelensky to screw himself bcs they had been defending their country since 2014. Governments change, but the SOIL below one’s feet doesn’t change.
I know people in the Alt-media will say accuse Azov of being jewish since it was funded by the jewish oligarch Ihor Kolomisky. Kolomoisky funded different groups for his own personal security and prob. to increase those Aliyah numbers.

(For anyone reading this I’ll recommend dissident creator Vigilante Intelligence’s three-part documentary “Is Putin the savior of the White race?” (No, Putin is against nationalism bcs it’d have a destructive effect on his multiracial neo-bolshevist empire, people on the Dissident Right are surprised to learn Russia has more muslims than Sweden and Germany combined.Lol)

A lot of people in the Alt-media are highly demoralized I think this has to do with them first discovering the JQ (it’s become a sort of a truism in these circles that they are omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent in every single node of power at ALL times) and it robs them of their sense of agency thus making them overall blackpilled defeatist etc. Like I said this is child’s play now compared to the future when there’s not going to be a parliamentary way out of this,demographically speaking.

[Leo]

@Archtraitor I don’t know what I would do in that scenario, unless I faced those circumstances myself. We can always suspect one response or another, but I doubt we’d truly know until living through it. And it would probably be circumstantial. I wouldn’t bother, as one White man, trying to physically fend off something significantly more powerful than me (an entire modernized army, for example) and beyond my means of deterring (a man-made, weaponized hurricane, as another example). I would, however, stand my ground in every means I could, especially when united with other White men who share my cause in self-defense and preservation. As one White man, I’m limited to physically defending myself from maybe a few others, at best. But I can defend myself intellectually, against all that is anti-White, by overcoming indoctrination and keeping myself and those I care about informed. In a life-or-death scenario, I imagine most of us would do whatever necessary to secure our survival, regardless of whether that meant fighting back, or relocating instead. Survival isn’t guaranteed either way, but I don’t think it’s healthy for any of us to accept defeat, in any situation, ever.

Fight back, and stand your ground, in whatever means possible – even if it’s not physical.

[Uli]

Aster, I don’t think that only racial issues are a factor in choosing to change countries. Here in Spain, home education is prohibited and I do not want my children to be indoctrinated at school learning gender ideology at the age of 5. So, I will probably end up moving countries.
Hitler wrote a long time ago that it is not a piece of paper that defines the concept of nationality, but blood. 🙂

[Aster]

They might not have much racial consciousness to begin with, if they’re willing to flee their homeland over migrants moving in. That might be a big part of the problem. They can’t move to a better whiter area within their own country? That’s what I normally think of as white flight.

[Anonymous]

I certainly wish that a safe haven for white people was available. As a woman, I couldn’t fight for a homeland unless I had similarly-inclined others to fight with. I do wish that we could simply live separately and that we could simply speak up about desiring to do so. Why can’t we have our own piece of the world when our numbers are dwindling so rapidly?

[Hunter]

So to respond to the first post, I would say that, unless you can ‘shoot’ (or otherwise ‘remove’) the enemy, run. By shooting the enemy you would also inevitably have to shoot the ‘elite’ parasites and traitors, especially the frontline pawns like the ‘police’ and ‘military’ i.e. the regime’s thugs. So yeah, unless you’re ready to do that (and ideally have some chance of longer-term survival), run.

[Anonymous]

@Uli

You cited the biggest problem, you have been and effectively are under jewish occupation. I can’t speak intelligently about the conditions inside of your nation as effectively as I’m sure you can, but from the outside it looks like Ukraine is effectively being used as a chess piece by the forces of world jewry. And the biggest victims of this are of course the White Ukrainian people. Your men have been wiped out almost entirely and this is probably by design so that the jews in control can import in non-Whites once Russia either is driven out and cuts bate or they are appeased enough by enough concessions to withdraw.

It’s yet another tragedy.

[Uli]

@Eastnordid:
At the time of the Spanish Reconquista, what did the average family have? 6? 8? 10 children? A war in today’s world is completely genocidal, and the case of Ukraine vs Russia is precisely that. A people like the Ukrainians who were already in the process of extinction and aging, with this war are close to total extinction, and thanks to a JEWISH President. Whites killing whites (and among them Mongols) because of Jews, a classic Western story once again repeating itself. The poor Ukrainian women who remain will have no husband or father, will be orphaned and will suffer much more at the hands of pedophiles, pimps and human trafficking. Ukrainian men should defend their family first.

I’m not exactly a pacifist, I understand that war is a necessary element, including to achieve peace, but I understand that in the direction of the world, a defensive strategy makes much more sense, like those who emerged from the 30-year war between Catholics and Protestants in center of Europe, and prospered and grew in American lands.

[Anonymous]

@eastnordid

I realize you’re in Finland, just understand that the situation is far different here in my nation. Without understanding the situation your nation is in when it comes to jewish power understanding the size and homogeneity of Finland I could see an organized resistance being more feasible and I would, of course, be happy for that to achieve success. It’s simply not something that can realistically happen in my nation, to the point where I could see those in power in my nation launching CIA backed terror operations against your nation if WN came into power in Finland. That’s how bad it is. It’s horrific and it will take generations to undo if it can ever be undone at all.

[Anonymous]

@eastnordid

The problem with all of this is that you’re comparing apples to oranges. Again, especially if you’re talking about America. Those who participated in the Reconquista did so in a nation that was both fundamentally smaller, and in conditions where it was far easier to organize. Ask any of the various WN groups what it was like to organize. Even supposing you could overcome the various hurdles and pitfalls, if it got off the ground it would be fully and completely crushed by the weight of the system and, given the full spectrum propaganda hold the jewish power structure has over the general populace, it would be largely met by indifference or even applause.

Once again, I’m not saying doing nothing is the answer. My argument has been that playing the long game isn’t just the practical solution, it is the only real solution our race has in America. We need to find each other, build communities with each other, have children with each other, educate each other, and we need to do it over generations. We will never win a hot revolution against the Jewish empire in America that involves taking to the streets, it’s simply not going to happen, we need to be smart enough to accept that fact and focus on doing practical things to move our people forward into the future.

[EastNordid]

@Archtraitor There’s this one image floating around titled ”Germany is shrinking” showing on the left-hand side the German Empire/Deutches Reich(1971-1943/45) with its 1914 borders and all of its minorities looking to secede at any point. On the right-hand side, the FRG and the largest foreign diasporas are shown at the county level.

What we’re now seeing in the first half of this century is child’s play compared what’s ahead of us in the sixties/seventies/eighties and so forth. A lot of people in these kind of spaces are jaded with politcians and electoral politics (esp. the Anglosphere with the majoritarian system) etc. and believe ”the grass is greener on the other side”.
What I’m saying is this whole ”retreating away society” is an escapist fantasy. I believe in Continental Europe or Eastern Europe (with proportional representation which makes it easier for (smaller) nationalist parties advocating for mass deportation to attain institutional power), hey someone has to get the ball rolling.

@Uli War inherently belongs to the Man’s World. Let me quote Herodotus ’Histories’ book 8 chapter 144: ”The Athenians explain to the Spartans that there is not enough “gold anywhere in the world” to bribe them into betraying “the Grecian race” by allying with the invading Persians to “enslave Greece.”

I’ll explain this differently: The Iberian Peninsula was more or less occupied by Arab-Moors for almost 800 years, imagine if I went to Spain and told nationalist Spaniards that their ancestors should never have started the Reconquista in order to liberate the Iberian Peninsula just because ”men will die fighting for a piece of land (aka their homeland)” or that they shouldn’t be proud of their ancestors’ victory and sacrifices in the Spanish Civil War (which is still a huge embarrassment to the Spanish left).

The Ukraine War was a perfect opportunity to argue in favor of (Blood and Soil) nationalism as a force for good in the West esp. when there is a blatant and proven genocide of White Ukrainian women and children by the vehemently anti-White neo-bolshevik Kremlin regime** targetting civilians. Their home is being invaded/ the land on which they have lived on. The women’s responsibility is to return back to their home country and have big families.

** The Kremlin regime has always been hostile toward White nationalists (unlike what gullible people in the Alt-media space believe esp. in the Anglosphere) they are either imprisoned, killed or are in exhile and will not stop their resistance until the Kremlin regime is gone, starting from Kursk. We Eastern European countries remember our history (Finland could be seen as being situated in Eastern Europe in my opinion) and we have bad experiences with our Eastern neighbor and modern Germans must never forget what Muscovites did to them 80 years ago!

[Aster]

I think on the level of individuals we have little power to protect what we hold dear into our posterity. That’s why institutions exist. So you either form the institution to protect your interests, or… it’s basically the wild west, which that seems to be what’s going on for the majority of us. We don’t really have a place to run to, except just to ease our circumstances. People with more strongly held conceptions and the institutions behind them to support them may gain the power.

[Heidinn]

Perhaps it is best to retreat to a stronger position with like minded folk, than to go down with the ship because you love the soil.

[Anonymous]

Individuals or even small groups are no match for the might of the state in the modern age. Take it from an American, through the use of our government, the forces of world jewry have crushed our entire sense of racial collectivism as Whites while also importing in the brown hordes and used our resources as a nation to destroy our culture and turn it into a propaganda tool to spread a poisonous ideology that is anti-human and degenerate. This poison now spreads to the entire western world, as many Europeans on here can attest to. We have become the great satan as a nation, perhaps we have always been? This is not done by all of us, but it has been done on behalf of us, and this is what happens when you cede your power to jews. Conservatism will not save us from this. We can only do this through building strong united communities of our people who are racially aware and willing to have a lot of children and raise them with a sense of our values and cultures as Whites. I’m not saying running is right, but at the same time, I can’t blame those who choose to, this isn’t a problem you can solve on your own and we don’t have those communities yet that can actively resist our enemies. We have to build that, and it is going to take generations to do so. I just hope my children will see some progress in their lifetimes.

[suprematist_Bookworm]

Go look up Savile Town in England (like the name of the famous pedo popstar of the same country). Savile Town has 4000 inhabitants and 99% of them are muslim sand niggers. They have their own sharia courts, which are ignored by the British state! Exactly 40 inhabitants are still from the native British population. Those numbers are from the last population census, which was several years back, I don’t know, how many still live there today. Yet the 40 ones who did back then, reported about daily harassments (not surprisingly) and even rich muslims coming directly to their homes offering them a ton of money if they sell their house to them.

Even if you put the considerations concerning your personal safety aside, you have to keep in mind that living in a mixed, much more in a completely alien environment, is sickening to the psyche on the long run, so you’re definitely screwing your up your mental health to a degree.

I guess this is something, that everybody has to decide for himself, how much you can take. Of course, white flight is something our enemies are aware of and take into consideration, too.

So I think Savile town is the perfect negative example, the blueprint for the final stage, why it’s interesting for us.

On the other side of the spectrum is Orania as a positive example. The Southafrican genocide on the white, european Boers, has led them to found this town in which they are the only allowed citizens. It is pretty much a white haven in SA, where they leave their doors unlocked, because they feel that safe, something that is out of the question in the rest of SA, where it’s more likely for a woman to be raped once in her life, than learning how to read and write.

Hope I’ve given you some food for thought with this.

[Uli]

As a white woman and as the weakest link that would be at risk of rape and harassment or even physical assault, I would certainly run away. If the state cannot provide the minimum, which is the safety of its inhabitants, it obviously stops becoming a good place to live, and I am sure that no woman will want to have children in a decadent environment. The region I live in in Spain isn’t much different and I’m thinking about moving here too.

I think that a people should not die for a piece of land, as if that were the most important thing. In the case of Ukrainians, for example, if they migrated together they could very well establish neighborhoods and cities in a country that is at peace, prospering economically and family-wise. than losing a war or winning it at the cost of many deaths and a tremendous fertility crisis.

[Archtraitor]

Reading several articles about whites fleeing Germany due to the violence they have been experiencing from migrants.Now I understand from a self preservation point of view but it means surrendering whole areas to these scum who inevitably expand and cause further issues
Welcome the thoughts of the people on this
Would you seek a safe haven or would you fight for your homeland no matter how hopeless that fight may be

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