[Pieter]

Abortion shouldn’t be illegal but mandatory for Jews and BLM supporters.

[Sigma]

National socialist women who are hypergamous are no different than feminists.

[Adam]

“the greatest time in American history, from the Revolutionary War to the start of the Civil War, featured marriages starting at 10 or 12”

I’m going to take the high road unlike you and not go on the offensive calling you names and denigrating your motivations on the struggle for our racial survival.

American revolutionary and civil wars just like 1940s Germany was a different people and a different time and is not relevant in one iota to our current people and time, you need to think very progressively about history and humanity, 200 years ago is not right for people today and suggesting we should all have teenage brides will absolutely drive the majority of sane white people away from all of this.

[Oscar]

“attraction to post-menstrual females is not pedophilia”

if a female can have it at 12, yes it is. And, by luck it’s not only the position of the sane, decent, part of the population but also of the criminal justice and we expect it to deal swiftly with the freaks who fantasize anything else.

In any case, as I’ve already written, this pseudo-debate is of no interest whatsoever: our problem is not ‘children who could be mothers’, but this decade of female procreation between the ages of 20 and 30 that has disappeared in the space of two generations since the boomers.

If we find a way to refind it, then there’s no longer a demographic problem and some people won’t have to lurk at the kiddos and pretend they’re acting in the name of a higher interest.

[Hunter]

@Adam, then you are an anti-White-American fighting against the interests of White reproduction, since as I’ve mentioned, the greatest time in American history, from the Revolutionary War to the start of the Civil War, featured marriages starting at 10 or 12.

@Oscar, attraction to post-menstrual females is not pedophilia. Also, females are generally conditioned (in the enslaved formerly White countries) to hate White men and not to have White babies. This is a hostile, anti-survival, social organization. Younger females are typically closer to their biological default state. Of course, rampant dysgenic technological genetic modification (current ‘vaccines’) is the mother of all black swans, or at least, would have been before the discovery of DNA.

[EastNordid]

@Hunter Usu. an uncle or other male relative from the extended family would raise boys with dead/absent/dysfunctional fathers.

No, in the 19th century men and women married in their twenties and the avg. age difference was a little bigger (4-6 years, men held more economic bargaining power). Yeah the ”age of marriage” used to be lower on paper, but in real-life people still married in their twenties. The practice of ”marrying off girls” only represented a marginal share of all marriages, it wasn’t as prevalent as you’d think. I’m still sceptical of your claims. Also in the 19th century girls had their first period at sixteen not earlier. Look, I don’t want this thread to turn into a discussion on AOC, that’s the last thing I’d want it to turn into.
Feminists will try to shame 18-24 year-old women with five-nine years older boyfriends/husbands, while at the same time be cool with women those ages selling their bodies for the price of a lunch to older men and call it “empowering”. Go figure.

[Oscar]

“, while I agree from a biological standpoint, my morals dictate that progenators of this ideal should be castrated”

Yes, I’ve noticed that this crypto-pedo pseudo-scientific discourse is becoming more and more widespread, claiming to find the answers to all our problems in the strict biological (one could even say ‘physiological’) substratum alone.

in fact, as the social behaviour of the masses moves further and further away from what would be necessary (my mother’s generation had their children at 20 for the first, and 30 for the last, which largely ensured generational renewal and even slight growth), we are seeing a discourse of opposite radicalisation, which will obviously have no major effect on the populations we wish to reach.

Man is a social animal, women are not hens who have acquired all their survival behaviours even before they reach sexual maturity… if the human species has become the master of the planet, it’s precisely because it has complexified its social organisation far beyond simply meeting natural needs.

[Adam]

“the age of consent (AOC) in, “the mid-19th century… was often 10 or 12 years old . . . . the first period was when a girl became a woman.”

I find this absolutely abominable, while I agree from a biological standpoint, my morals dictate that progenators of this ideal should be castrated for their first offense and blood eagled for any subsequent offense.

[Hunter]

@EastNordid my father was/is a jew-loving-tyrant who only cares about preaching his lies and has made my life hell in so many ways. Very little of his ‘advice’ has been useful. He didn’t even really contribute to the family financially for 3/4 of my life. I’d take my mother being single over that, there are exceptions to any rule. Really, I deeply regret not just taking the financial hit and leaving the ‘home’ permanently when I was 19. But my mother’s lukewarm love keep me there. I was too soft. Also, the age of consent (AOC) in, “the mid-19th century… was often 10 or 12 years old. This was the case in many states, including California, which initially set the age of consent at 10 in 1850.” The Spring of American Civilization (when White populations exploded) had the AOC near a girls the first period… also, it is worth noting that in many traditional cultures, including traditional Japanese culture (that Great Uncle Adolf admired), the first period was when a girl became a woman.

[EastNordid]

@Hunter
>Thus I cannot conclude that patriarchy is always superior to matriarchy when it comes to specific cases, my ‘family’ being one such case. I would have been happier if my mother were a single mother and I were her only child.

Sounds like you had a dysfunctional relationship with your father. At the same time, kids raised by single mothers are worse off by every metric (one of the reasons why it shouldn’t be encouraged) I wouldn’t wish that kind of fate upon anyone. My bluepilled parents got me and my twin-brother at 45 and 39 (which is too late imo, in middle-age definitely not ideal) they never married, then separated after a year meaning we’d swap homes every Sunday or stay at either parent for an extended period of time. My father who’s a birdwatcher took us with him to his field trips, fishing, social gatherings with relatives until we were older teenagers. Gotta give it to him. Even if I felt envy toward intact families I have nothing to complain about really. Could’ve been worse.

> also ‘dating apps’ are extremely anti-White in general

Nowadays the share of couples that first met online has risen to ~90%. Match Group’s apps have become the de-facto public square for young people to meet (“bro, Tinder isn’t real-life”). Boomers (or anyone absent from the dating pool since ~2013) haven’t got a clue how the landscape has changed in the past decade or so for millenials and zoomers jfl. The globalization of the dating market means nowadays avg. men have it harder meanwhile avg. women get a taste of Chad *way* too easily thus artificially inflating their perceived self-worth thinking they deserve more and more. By compromising their standards (just to get laid) simps also artificially inflate the avg. woman’s ego. Promiscuous women with their undesireable traits would get filtered out from the gene pool back in the day, now they are given the chance to pass on their genes (since they can’t pick Chad, they’ll have to settle for an avg. man/simp who they won’t even have genuine burning desire for/ feel attracted to physically).

>However, the older a man that has children with a younger woman, the more likely the children will also have a longer lifespan.

It’s the first time I’ve come across such a claim. I suspect it’d have to do more with intelligence (which runs in the family) rather than merely old age itself. It’s a priviledge to see one’s own grandkids as adults however the odds become increasingly slim unless one has kids earlier. However, one of the main reasons not to indefinitely delay parenthood is paternal age effect on offspring. I’m not going to bore you to death but the gist of it is that leftists have older fathers on avg. (childhood health is a huge predictor of future political orientation) men in their 20s have less (deleterious) mutations in their sperm (two new mutations per ~year) which means healthier offspring and a higher likelihood of them turning right-wing (aka healthy, ideal natural course of life). On an aggregate level, when there are more births to middle-aged fathers and mothers (or pushing middle-age) than there are to under-30 fathers and mothers then chromosomal abnormalities and mutational load in offspring increases and thus so does leftism in society. Even when the mother’s age is controlled for (women aged 25), older fathers (starting somewhere from 35/40/45) increase the odds for misscarriage, take longer to conceive, have higher odds for schitzophrenia, epilepsy autism etc… Women already get hammered into their heads that “35” is “advanced maternal age”. From an eugenic standpoint young women and men ought to marry eachother (not middle-aged men with more mutations/ women with no/poor eggs) and not delay parenthood indefinitely.

> Before the christian feminist…

From what I’ve gathered, Tacitus mentions in his Germania Germans practiced “late” marriage (which meant they waited until 20). In NW Europe since the late middle ages/ early modern period the avg. age of marriage was mid-20s for women and mid-/late-20s for men (before forming a separate nuclear household with a husband, women had to pay dowry to the man and his family but if her family wasn’t rich then she worked to earn enough to pay for the dowry). During the early colonial period in America women married at 20 and men at 26, during the 18th century it was 23 for women and 27 for men (it was tied to farmland prices, real wages etc. the local sex ratio (surplus of men in the West, women in the East)). Husbands took five years younger wives. Nowadays feminists will try to shame an older guy for being in a relationship with a 18-24 yo woman in which the age difference is five to nine years older. It’s not as prevalent in Continental Europe. Nowadays adolescence is extended to more or less a decade (maybe two lol), when I was 16/17 two-thirds of my class were hopelessly infantilized, a handful were wise beyond their years.

> The concept of ‘progress’ before good goy victory in WW2 was fundamentally linked to the art and science of eugenics:

“Progressive Era” had many good things going for it like eugenics (every civilized country had sterilization laws) well okay aside from the 19th Amendment.

@AeonKnight
>relationships are transactional

RP crowd loves to stress “genuine desire”. (Older) Men have a tendency to lean onto their credentials: “she likes me because I am highly achieved/have wealth” *this line of reasoning* has taken them into divorce court before. Genuine desire can’t be bought, it’s genetic determinism (which run antithesis to the RP). Looks are immutable unlike wealth. So a younger guy won’t have wealth but he has future potential to acquire it as well as looks which will fade with time. Just like there is a critical period for language acqusition between ages ~2-13 there’s a critical socialization period in adolescence to gain the essential social competency for a relationship. Didn’t date as a teenager but I could see how the lack any experience with girls/ young love is detrimental to the psychosocial development of a boy (young love blackpill).

[Hunter]

@Adam libertarianism and meritocracy is and should be the default for White societies… deviation from these requires extensive rational justification, not simply ‘the bible and/or the leader’ says so… of all domestic policies a eugenics policy is probably the most deserving of an exception, although, one would think that the societal value of merit would naturally lead to an unofficial eugenic outcome. However, historically, the influence of christianity and statism has proved that false. Of course, the number of possible eugenic policies nears infinity. Every specific point would demand extensive rational justification as any state or collective policy that reduces individual liberties should demand.

[Adam]

Hey hey coming on now, folks, with the exception of some left in the first chapters of this thread, we’re all on the same path, we’ve just got some slightly differing perspectives on how to get there.

I couldn’t have foreseen how popular this thread would have been and I’d be surprised if I was told by anyone that it’d taken off like it has.

As fortold by the order men and Harold Covington there will have to be a committee to hammer out the details of how such a white society would comport itself, and issues like the life of children will be agreed on unanimously but worked over several times, this thing is far bigger than any one of us, it should be a group effort.

[ItsNatural]

@ASparanSpeaks

Hey Asshole! Fuck off with your calling me negative names!!

And you are a cold hearted killer that thinks in simplistic terms of taking care of problems, such as abortion for certain races. Don’t be as evil or worse than the enemy! Allow their fetuses to be born (not ALL of them are bad, believe it or not. Fuck your black and white thinking). AND take care of the problem honorably and bravely by speaking to them, and the human races in general, to allow us to segregate or else their we will take it to the next level. Then, the next level is violence and defense for only the ones who violently attack us. Don’t be an evil COWARD yourself by killing babies in their wombs before they can be born. Wow. What an honorable tough guy you are. NOT!!

[Anonymous]

This country is an unholy abomination and the only thing racially aware White people can do right now is find each other and form communities.

[Archtraitor]

The situation is likely to get worse.Right now both your parties are in damage control mode trying to prevent dissatisfaction with the uni party “choice”

Numbers may yet increase because as the comment above said they are better at destruction than the rest and that is all that matters

[AeonKnight]

Even the other blacks are appalled by the Haitians LOL

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

This is for you weak, cowardly, worthless, stupid pieces of shit who think that all abortion should be illegal. You imbeciles who think that jews and non-Whites should not be aborted, en mass are weak and stupid as fuck and utterly useless as you are far t0o weak to be able to do what will need to be done in the near future!

[AeonKnight]

@EastNordid

“Another unpopular opinion is that the average man ’peaks’ relatively early looks wise in life (sign of genetic health, youth can’t be bought with money) than what the online Redpill/Manosphere crowd regurgitates (around 25-30 versus the latter 35-45). They lie to young boys and men promising them they will peak at 40 (income wise then yes I suppose) that they have infinite time left.”

That’s a good point. The RedPill manosphere have a financial interest in pushing ever later dates for their audience, as well as the biggest lie/scam that looks don’t matter as much for men (they actually matter MORE), but it’s grounded on the female drive to look for competence/experience/status — you simply don’t have those at a younger age, especially in this Jewish social paradigm. It’s also valid that to point out that oldER man will have a larger appeal to the largest pool of women, and at a more relevant biological stage, i.e.: Justin Bieber and K-Pop might be hugely popular, but not with young adult/adult women, more teen and pre-teen on average. Same goes for a more universal physical appeal in men: although pretty boys are extremely valuable, something like Henry Cavill would be preferred most of the time.

“If we then assume women in their early 20s are in the highest demand across the board, those women filter out (average) guys past ages ~30/35 on dating apps who are balding (sign of genetic health), have lower muscle mass and higher bodyfat % due to decreased testosterone levels and wrinkles then the aspect of the agepill becomes brutal to face.”

Also very true, but that comes from a skewed sexual-market-value introspection on their part + dual-mating hopes.

“Some of you will say age gaps in marriages used to be bigger and that they’ve shrunk due to feminism. There is a nugget of truth in what you’re saying. In 1900 at least in North America it was four years in 1900. If you know a couple with a +10 age gap and they’ve lasted for years, well then the exception confirms the rule.”

It remains so worldwide and cross-cultures even today. And the gap comes from female selection. The “unofficial” gap we can only speculate, but 20-year-old women haven’t stopped fucking 40-year-old rich guys on Tinder lol. If anything, it has increased, even with dual-mating fully in place (accounting for sugar daddies, that is). The only difference now is that the man doesn’t have to marry/invest in the woman. “Congratulations, you’ve played yourself”.

“In my opinion young love can’t ever be experienced again. It’s never going to be the same at 40 dating younger women and even then it’s going be highly transactional in nature (gold diggers).”

Very true, but even without money, relationships are transactional. We want each other’s genes. All things are transactional, but for humans it’s only sour if it’s in plain sight haha.

“Men’s sperm quality declines with age, nature favors reproduction at a younger age. In the past age of first marriage and parenthood was in the 20s during the spring/summer of one’s life.”

Yes, although it’s much slower than female fertility decline (and affected by diet/exercise quite a lot), the guys here should not be thinking they have all the time in the world.

@Hunter is correct in also giving the side of nurture here. Genetics take precedence, but having kids super young without any foundations, for a man, is highly r-selected. To each their own.

“Thus I cannot conclude that patriarchy is always superior to matriarchy when it comes to specific cases”

I don’t wanna be the “aktchually” guy, but your case is the opposite of patriarchy. Patriarchy is balance/stability based on biological polarity, and matriarchy is not “mum pays the bills”. An inadequate dad doesn’t give merit to a matriarchy.

“Before the christian feminist moment, the age of consent (really the age of marriage) was 12 in most of North America and girls often married men much older than them.”

That has a myriad of ecological reasons, and you could argue that “civilisation bad”, which although not entirely dismissable, requires more adjustment than just being tossed, on top of being totally inevitable (even more reason to tweak, not discard). The current female human doesn’t benefit herself or her offspring by being pregnant at 12, even if post-puberty.

“Now, of course, ‘progress’ can only be found in the non-human, the machine (AI), since consideration of the importance of good genetics is an absolute taboo”

It’s hilarious when I see bugman science channels/people discuss whether selecting partners based on beneficial things like health and intelligence “is eugenics”, as if the premise is already set lol. Yes, it is, and it’s inevitable and good. Every time you select anyone, it’s either eugenic or dysgenic.

[Hunter]

Before the christian feminist moment, the age of consent (really the age of marriage) was 12 in most of North America and girls often married men much older than them. During this period the White population exploded. The origins of the secular feminist moment are in the elevation of motherhood (rather than just females in general) with the primary justification being fundamentally rooted in eugenics. This was destroyed after the good goy victory in WW2. Eugenics was developed in the Anglo-sphere and was more popular than in Germany until Hitler became the ruler of Germany. The concept of ‘progress’ before good goy victory in WW2 was fundamentally linked to the art and science of eugenics: there could be nothing more progressive for humanity than to improve the quality of humanity. Now, of course, ‘progress’ can only be found in the non-human, the machine (AI), since consideration of the importance of good genetics is an absolute taboo. This also partially explains why so many ‘people’ took dysgenic DNA modifying injections.

[Hunter]

@EastNordid, you are mostly right about that, but the effect is even harsher (on average of course) for women, also ‘dating apps’ are extremely anti-White in general. However, the older a man that has children with a younger woman, the more likely the children will also have a longer lifespan. Personally, my parents were overall (beyond providing food and shelter) an extremely negative influence on my life, especially my social life. They also provided me negative support in chasing after my passions or even just finding a good job, wife, and home. I blame my jew-loving preacher father far more than my mother since she has just been essentially his slave since she married him, and he didn’t really work to provide for the family for the last 20 years (while she did). Really, he was essentially fully retired by the time he turned 50, content to let his wife work for him, and no, he was not the homemaker my mother would have been had the situation been reversed. At this point, my mother is the only one, from among the family that I was born into, with whom I have a somewhat positive relationship. Thus I cannot conclude that patriarchy is always superior to matriarchy when it comes to specific cases, my ‘family’ being one such case. I would have been happier if my mother were a single mother and I were her only child.

[EastNordid]

@AeonKnight I’ve seen that video. Completely nightmarish stuff. It’s our responsibility to ban and control it.

Another unpopular opinion is that the average man ’peaks’ relatively early looks wise in life (sign of genetic health, youth can’t be bought with money) than what the online Redpill/Manosphere crowd regurgitates (around 25-30 versus the latter 35-45). They lie to young boys and men promising them they will peak at 40 (income wise then yes I suppose) that they have infinite time left.

If we then assume women in their early 20s are in the highest demand across the board, those women filter out (average) guys past ages ~30/35 on dating apps who are balding (sign of genetic health), have lower muscle mass and higher bodyfat % due to decreased testosterone levels and wrinkles then the aspect of the agepill becomes brutal to face. Sure, it’s not a secret that men of all ages want a young woman if they had the opportunity but most (average) older men are filtered out by default, those young women will select other men in their 20s more or less their age (+-5 ish). Sure an older man is better I agree with that, but still even then he’d be in his mid-late 20s. In the past men got married around that age (then it was arranged marriages over ‘love’ marriages), those from a wealthy background even younger since they didn’t have to work to stay afloat. It depended on when the man had finished his education and accumulated enough wealth.

Some of you will say age gaps in marriages used to be bigger and that they’ve shrunk due to feminism. There is a nugget of truth in what you’re saying. In 1900 at least in North America it was four years in 1900. If you know a couple with a +10 age gap and they’ve lasted for years, well then the exception confirms the rule.

In my opinion young love can’t ever be experienced again. It’s never going to be the same at 40 dating younger women and even then it’s going be highly transactional in nature (gold diggers). Men’s sperm quality declines with age, nature favors reproduction at a younger age. In the past age of first marriage and parenthood was in the 20s during the spring/summer of one’s life.

[Hunter]

Men can love more than one woman at a time. Women are always trying to decide who they ‘really’ love as they can only really love one man at a time (and typically this is the man most [sexually] dominant over her). Thus, men naturally trend towards polygamy, while women trend towards (serial) monogamy. Men end-up settling for monogamy to please a woman, yet women love a popular man loved by many women. By contrast, the more men a woman has been with, the less attractive she is to men. Women are far more paradoxical than men.

[Hunter]

Age gap relationships are optimal as they allow the transmission of knowledge from the older to the younger:
1) Older women are for younger males
2) Older men are for younger females
3) Note that I am not encouraging you to break any of the laws of the jurisdiction you are within

[Hunter]

A White girl should be eugenically married as soon as:
1) She has had her first menstruation
2) She is physically big enough to safely handle pregnancy
3) She has shown any interest in sex
Then her father should:
1) Select at least two eugenic matches from among his brothers or friends that are White men
2) The final choice should be left up to his daughter
3) Education should focus on home-keeping and child-raising and be structured around practical motherhood
Why?
1) So that White women produce more White children
2) To strengthen White social relations
3) To provide women the joy of motherhood when they are youthful

[AeonKnight]

@Leo

Hahaha thanks a lot, man. I really appreciate your perspective and insights as well. Take care!

@Hunter

I don’t think they’re naturally bisexual, I think they’re just very mouldable, and thus can seem like anything society enforces at any one point (with biological/hypergamous limitations, obviously).

On IVF: even if we managed to do artificial breeding without a single genetic, epigenetic, and environmental drawback, it’d still create a very frail, limited genepool. Humans aren’t at the stage where we can predict and calculate every single effect of every protein we mess with (I think it’s ultimately impossible anyway, in line with calculating every possible chess game, for example), and we won’t reach that stage if we beging tinkering at random now, that’s for sure.

@Dean_Leon

I mostly agree, and my problem is obviously with Christianity, not with Christians, otherwise I wouldn’t bother with online discussions. Why would I wanna try and help someone I’m not invested in, or that is not a factor for me? The issue with most people is that they think you’re attacking THEM, and not their ideas, especially with religion. I just try to point out to a drunk that the booze is killing them, and is the reason for their behaviour.

“The only way to save the west is organizing on racial grounds period, end of story.”

And Christianity is fundamentally opposed to that, unless you ignore scripture. No way around it.

@ItsNatural

“You’re not seeing that abortion is wrong because it is murder.”

And you’re not seeing that this is circular reasoning. “Abortion is wrong because it’s murder, and it’s murder because it’s wrong.”

“I don’t believe that some beings have more of a right to be born an exist than others”

Neither do I. I even consider the killing of a single fertilised cell as the killing of a human. But killing =/= bad, by definition. “Rights” don’t/cannot exist before they have been enforced, which makes the separation meaningless. Every organism has a chance to “attempt”, and even that won’t be under “fair” conditions. Are animals that kill competing offspring, even from their own species, “evil”? Or is that just a function of Nature and of “is/will be” existence?

“No baby (or future human) should be painfully cut up because in your mind they are likely to have a low IQ, will PROBABLY enter into a life of crime because of no father, parents given the baby up to foster care, parents are poor, etc. etc.”

It’s not “in my mind” though, and genetics are the opposite of probability, it’s why it’s so valuable. There are dozens of twin studies and experiments I can name that prove it, if logic alone isn’t enough. Environment changes are minute, that’s why they’re less valuable. It’s how reproductive assessment of value works in the first place.

“These are cold hearted reasons to terminate a life.”

Emotional/subjective reason. Totally meaningless, sorry.

“they have every right in my eyes”

So “in your eyes” takes precedence over “in my mind”? Lol. Opinion vs opinion. What to do? Use reason to solve it.

“I don’t ascribe to your self-righteous intellectual feeling of superiority that you can decide who lives.”

I am judging absolutely nothing — I am describing what WILL happen and what Nature does regardless of anyone’s position. You did not pay attention at all, because my view is to let Nature solve it. I have stated I am not for banning or allowing abortion, because it’s a pointless stance to take, and you are the one being self-righteous by assuming you know better than Nature by trying to legislate it with man-made words on paper — projection, maybe? If you don’t think your view is superior, why are YOU trying to impose it? Or even arguing its merits? I am imposing nothing, I merely want consequences for actions. You are trying to prevent a consequence of dysgenics, which is completely impossible and will only drag it out more and cause more suffering, which is the very thing trying to be prevented in the first place. You cannot trick Nature into becoming your own limited personal plaything — only Jews think they can. The rebalancing is inevitable and proportional to the time and degree of the unbalancing.

“the baby who is born into seemingly dire circumstances might surprise you and not enter into gangs and crime”

Yes, and that is also why I’m 100% pro freedom and consequence. You are pro freedom but not consequence. Struggle generates fitness, so the children of a shit environment who manage to adapt not only have proven the merit of their genetics, but will pass those epigenetic triggers forward, And we NEED those. You not only have no clue what you’re talking about, but you can’t think 10 seconds into the future.

“(and even if they did, so what, that’s their decision)”

This is a really retarded sentence. “It’s ok if people commit crime because it’s their decision to do so”. What are you even saying here?

“Would you want me or others to decide if you deserve to live or not? I don’t think so.”

Once more, you neither read nor understood what has been said: it is not ME or any individual deciding: Nature decides, and we should follow what she rewards, not what she punishes.

“Also, an interracial couple making an interracial abomination is not usual outright murder, but a lesser, softer form of murder or genocide.”

Genocide Light. No sugar. Got it. I could use your “logic” and say that killing someone from a different race is a “lesser, softer form of murder”. Even you admit here that there are degrees to things, and thus different definitions and outcomes.

@Wakstar

There’s no such thing as “unwanted pregnancy”, especially nowadays.

“Even then, what poison are you inviting into your community via DNA.”

The poison you apparently spread your legs for. If women don’t wanna have a man’s kids, they shouldn’t fuck him, simple as that, instead of forcing society to suffer and pay for their bad reproductive choices.

“How do we migrate from complete perversion and self-destructive behaviors and attitudes to preserving and promoting preferred bloodlines? How do we move away from being entitled to a meaningless orgasm or jerk to being conscious living honorable lives”

Natural selection + time.

@Tony

Well said.

[Tony]

@wakstar
I think when and ONLY when western man has dominion over his civilization again can such a thing occur.

Fascism is the zenith of the white man’s need for order. It is the defender of the most basic truth in life…race.

That said, if Hitler won the war the victorious reich I assure you would not struggle with such questions.

It’s people would inherently do what is best for society… And his fellow white brothers and sisters.

Moreover the disgusting incessant Jewish propaganda would not be blaring full blast for decades perverting people and their minds….it simply wouldn’t exist.

[Wakstar]

Abortion is a very contentious subject. Being a woman, I know there is “no such thing as being a little bit pregnant.” There is also no good alternatives for an unwanted pregnancy unless your community adopts and raises the baby. Even then, what poison are you inviting into your community via DNA. The more pressing topic, in my opinion, is how to bring about a society that intentionally fosters responsible breeding? How do we migrate from complete perversion and self-destructive behaviors and attitudes to preserving and promoting preferred bloodlines? How do we move away from being entitled to a meaningless orgasm or jerk to being conscious living honorable lives. There’s not much you can do for the masses who have already been corrupted other than leading by example.

[ItsNatural]

@AEON KNIGHT Also, an interracial couple making an interracial abomination is not usual outright murder, but a lesser, softer form of murder or genocide.

[ItsNatural]

@AEON KNIGHT You’re not seeing that abortion is wrong because it is murder. I don’t believe that some beings have more of a right to be born an exist than others until they have proven individually in life that they have forfeited their right to live because of unjust murder, pedophilia, and such. No baby (or future human) should be painfully cut up because in your mind they are likely to have a low IQ, will PROBABLY enter into a life of crime because of no father, parents given the baby up to foster care, parents are poor, etc. etc. These are cold hearted reasons to terminate a life. They have every right in my eyes to live just as you and I do. I don’t ascribe to your self-righteous intellectual feeling of superiority that you can decide who lives. My heart and eyes see it differently than you do. I appreciate and love low IQ people, the baby who is born into seemingly dire circumstances might surprise you and not enter into gangs and crime (and even if they did, so what, that’s their decision), etc. Would you want me or others to decide if you deserve to live or not? I don’t think so.

[ItsNatural]

@LEO Your welcome. And thanks for the civil discourse.

[Adam]

Remember that part where I said “I value African culture . . . ” African culture has historically been to live very close to the land, evidenced by their mud huts and almost complete lack of clothing, prior to contact with the Western world they didn’t really even have any concepts or language for bad things or punishment. The music consists of banging on things, rhythmic percussion and rambling rhyming lyrics about their daily life. The food consists of roots and berries hunted meats and the occasional foraged fruits and native vegetables.
What they are not is a good fit for industrialized highly technical polite yet capable of great feats of constructive and destructive forces found in Western societal constructs.

Instead of aspiring to be a pimp/prostitute drug dealer or a welfare Queen or anything else up till recently aspired to by white westerners (bankers, lawyers etc,.) is an abomination for them and the best thing they can be is Aboriginal desert dwellers in the Kalahari or the jungles of the Congo. That is what they do best. Even us whites aren’t very good at that. I DO believe they are a different race from the white race, it’s just an inconvenient biological ability for them (and us) to be capable of producing fertile offspring – be it they and we were like horses and mules it would be a far better world and worse we’d see is the occasional neuter mongoloids probably in zoos for scientific study and general public amusement.

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We are better suited to colder climates.
Many of them didn’t even have functional control of fire before contact with us.

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Some need to remember that this is not post unpopular facts, it’s post unpopular opinions, unpopular opinions that we couldn’t post anywhere else except for a white space.
EDIT: I see the thread is back on topic now.

@ThackoftheSpire I agree, I as many were raised in a Christian archetypical sect, I’ve even tried to go back, but I just can’t identify with them anymore since I’ve opened Pandora’s (racial) box. On the softer side I think religion is good for weak willed, spirit and minded individuals, but I feel like once you start down a pathway of enlightenment you begin to encounter many forks in the road that begin to threaten the doctrine and many will choose “the righteous path” putting them further and further from natural law.
If there is to be a balkanization this will be a massive stumbling block for its implementation.

[Anonymous]

Christianity isn’t going to save America. I say this as someone who believes in God and is currently on spiritual journey and finding his way to Christ. America isn’t going to become a theocracy under the church or anything like that. It’s simply not feasible or desirable based on the subservience existing within the mainstream religion towards (((them))). The only way to save the west is organizing on racial grounds period, end of story. Religion is only going to be used to further divide our race by our enemies. Again, I am not hostile to fellow believers in Christ, I just know that it is a poison pill for pro-White politics.

[Hunter]

Females are naturally bisexual, conditioning makes them believe otherwise. Incest is preferable to outcest that results in the loss of desirable traits (and there are rarely any negative consequences from 1 generation of incest), the negative consequences of incest can be naturally bred out of the genome resulting in a pure-type, a pureblood lineage that will no longer suffer negative consequences from incest. With IVF and genetic analysis this, can be achieved without genetic engineering nor natural suffering. The old nobility sought the creation of the pure-type or pureblood lineage since it enabled the reliable preservation of desirable traits and a kind of biological immortality as descendants would closely resemble ancestors. For spiritualists, this meant an increased likelihood of reincarnation within the same lineage. For vampires, this meant that the blood and bodies of descendants could be used to extend life.

[Leo]

@ItsNatural I recognize that. I wouldn’t consider a fetus a person in the sense that you and I are, as fully developed and matured persons born from a womb; however, it is still a living organism that dies when an abortion occurs, sure. This is apparently a very sensitive subject for a lot of people, but I’m not especially interested in it to keep contributing to the abortion conversation here, so this will probably be my last post on this thread. If a woman I impregnated sought an abortion, that’s when I’d personally be a lot more concerned and involved in deterring such an action (since I only have sex with quality women whom I imagine mothering my children). Thanks for being engaged and kind enough to answer half the questions I had. I was merely curious what someone else thought, than anything. Happy days ahead.

@AeonKnight1 Bro, you have no idea how much I appreciate your logic in every comment and message I ever see from you, lol. If only we were of the opposite sex – we’d make a great couple, hahah, but alas, we are not. Anyways, enjoy your adventures on the WhiteDate forums, friends. Leo out.

[Leo]

@Adamson No worries, buddy. I know that WhiteDate is a very special place, and one of the last online forums where we can freely express ourselves. I don’t want to see that change either, yet I unfortunately can’t seem to receive any guidance from the platform owner about this issue. She’s responded to me today, about other matters, including something else on this thread, but hasn’t specified anything about moderating racial slurs. So, I’m going to safely assume it’s not a priority to her, like it is to the person who reported your comments, and reinstate your original language. My only intent is to tackle things like spam, nonsensical gibberish (such as aaaaassssddddfffgggghhhhhh), posts with abusive or phishing links, etc. So, feel free to comment what you wish, and I will disregard similar reports, unless different guidance on this issue is provided to me by the platform owner.

@Adamson Edit/Update: the platform owner changed the language to ‘negroid,’ after I posted this comment, just so that you are aware (it wasn’t me who did that). She offered me some guidance on the moderating of this one specific racial slur.

[AeonKnight]

@Adam

“An unborn fetus and a post Natal human OF ANY SKIN COLOR in my heart is an innocent spirit and deserves the chance to mature to contribute to the collective of the human race”

How do Africans contribute to the rest of humanity, exactly? Also, there is no “human race”: Africans are an entirely different species of the Homo genus, carrying up to 1/5 pre-human DNA. But you want them walking around “contributing” jfl.

[AeonKnight]

@WestleyII

Answer the question first: “How is that reconciled with the points I listed above (arresting Rothschilds, banning secret societies, ending usury)?”

“It proves everything. What fantasy world do you live in?”

I live in a world of context. Ignoring the opinion of an individual general, who isn’t privy to the macro plan at all, and choosing to balance the whole the best as possible seems the most reasonable course of action. Also, once more: hindsight. It’s easy to predict the past.

“Honest to goodness real leaders do not attempt to micro manage”

Perhaps in an ideal world, where there is no shortage of history-changing men. Even then. Maybe you’re an even greater strategist than Alexander, Napoleon, Hitler, etc., who all chose/were forced to do so.

“Do you know the war could have easily been won, early on?”

We can single out master plays all day, and I’d agree with you, but reality is more complex at the time you have to make these calls.

“Here’s an article of what kind of EVIL happens which we are still dealing with”

I’d also agree here that failure/incompetence is evil because it causes/allows evil, but you’re blaming Hitler alone on the evil Jews do when they win. I can also agree with an agency vs non-agency argument, but that’s all it is: a single mortal man can’t bear all of that blame, unless proven guilty beyond all doubt.

@Leo

“Does abortion arise in other non-human animals?”

It doesn’t consciously because Natural Law takes care of that, they just don’t survive. There’s no difference. It’s actually extremely common for animals to simply ignore and not take care of offspring that is even just a little weak, and seemingly normal to us humans. I’ve seen it multiple times in cats, dogs and horses. If the measure by which we’re gonna judge things is “suffering”: is being born and dying from neglect or living a full life of disability better than being aborted? I don’t take an “ought” from an “is”, and using “suffering” as the measure of reality is insanity to me, but the emotional argument itself ends in the same conclusion. All roads lead to the truth.

“As controversial as this statement may be: males being physically dominant over females, enables rape, protection from competitors, and the survival of a species – even in scenarios where consent never arises. Similarly, persons intellectually dominant over others, enables eugenics against, and the extermination of, another species/sub-species (AKA race) in scenarios where, again, consent never arises (especially by way of forced sterilizations, vaccinations, diet, schooling, propaganda, etc).”

Not controversial at all, just a statement of fact.

“And what we think is moral or immoral, isn’t as important either, unless we’re sufficiently powerful and positioned to medically and/or physically do something about it”

Good reminder.

I think people generally miss the point that abortion itself is a symptom of an unhealthy person/society, and that solving the root cause is the only solution, rather than the band-aid of “banning abortion”.

@WestleyII post #22791

I haven’t heard of this, I’ll take a look. It still seems like bread-and-butter controlled op conspiracy to me though haha.

@Leo post #22821

Are posts being edited by mods now? I understand your reasoning but that’s a very bad idea.

@ItsNatural

You are incorrect and throwing an emotional temper tantrum. Just pause and consider the arguments that have been made.

“No, of course it’s not murder if an interracial couple had a mixed child. It WOULD be racial genocide in a soft way and is very sad and infuriating to me to see!”

Genocide is not murder. Makes sense. The result doesn’t matter, only the legal definition of the process. Right. We are not being invaded, because it’s called migration. We are not being conquered, because we CHOSE to be conquered. That’s how a woman processes reality.

[ItsNatural]

@LEO Again abortion is murder. It does involve a 3rd person, too – the fetus that was to become a human before it was killed.
As for other races around the world, it is still murder and shouldn’t be allowed there, either, but it does make policing and monitoring that very difficult indeed.

No, it’s not murder from infertile vaccinations. It’s evil and immoral, yes, and I don’t know what to label it (population prevention?), but it is not murder.

No, to GMF. The same as above.

No, of course it’s not murder if an interracial couple had a mixed child. It WOULD be racial genocide in a soft way and is very sad and infuriating to me to see!

The last 3 I’m not even going to reply to you about.

[Adam]

@leo I probably skimmed and scanned a rules/FAQ/code of conduct way back whenever it was I joined, and if I am in violation or too crass I humbly submit my apologies to any offended and I very much value this small dark little corner of our ever shrinking white online spaces.

. . . . However . . . .

I have to try very VERY hard to gag myself in the face of @WestleyII to not engage is personal attacks, ignorant character assassination and petty name calling of you (WestleyII)
In furtherance of keeping to that attempt, I do not have the time or patience to address your wild claims, as others have stated they are all over the place, I have many very important things to do away from the internet, you have continuously subverted and muddied this thread with (in my opinion and experience) valueless, tiresome and frankly ridiculous talking points almost entirely of system origin, I have tried time and again to put bluntly that these are AMERICAN JEWISH AND SKEWED HISTORICAL rhetoric that only fractures what few remaining of us there are.

As a result I refuse to engage with you on any matter of history, another fact is that history unless it repeats itself is irrelevant, we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children’ this is a forward thinking, imperative that is not just a matter of life and death for the individual but the entire white race.
If you are white, fight for white, have interest in white (have children or grandchildren that are white) it is your racial duty to stow all that shit between your ears, better your keyboard warrior tendencies and DO SOMETHING OF USE OTHER THAN MAKE CHAOS

To drag myself through the abortion subtopic again, I don’t have any answers for mixed babies born or unborn. They will have to be EXCLUDED from ANY ethnostate, and while the mental and physical well-being of the white half of the parentage is welcomed (if I were king) obviously the nonwhites half AND the mutt is of no use or concern to my future homeland.
An unborn fetus and a post Natal human OF ANY SKIN COLOR in my heart is an innocent spirit and deserves the chance to mature to contribute to the collective of the human race, abortion is murder, but I don’t care if the dark half of homosapiens destroy innocent life, but for my people it is abominable.
I’m literally just saying the same thing over and over different ways. I have to get back to my midnight duties.
Play nice and as for you Westley, do a deep search of your soul and ask yourself what you are doing here, it’s a fools errand to try to convince people of your viewpoints, it only sows discontent.

[Leo]

@ItsNatural I don’t disagree with you, abortion is murder. I don’t encourage abortion, but I recognize the sexual affairs of two other people in a faraway land (such as the African continent) of a race I’m not (such as any kind of African) isn’t any of my business. Why should I care what a couple people are doing with each other, or whether a pregnant woman is deciding to abort, half a world away, unless it somehow affects me and/or my nation? I can understand how there’s more of a concern about abortions within the same nation, society, community, or family that you’re a member of, but I don’t see why it matters to any of us on a personal level what Person #1 and Person #2 decide to do with their embryo, when we’re not even having sex with, nor associated with, those people. Let Person #1 and Person #2 handle their own affairs. If a lion grows hungry and eats them, or they take a plane to South America that crashes, then that’s ultimately their problem, as much as deciding whether to abort their child is. All I’m suggesting is, don’t make other people’s problems, your problems (and vice versa), unless they’re of mutual concern.

Out of curiosity, @ItsNatural, if you’re kind and/or interested enough to contemplate and answer these …

Is it murder if someone vaccinates another person with the result of that person becoming infertile?
Is it murder if someone provides genetically modified food to someone else that causes them to become infertile?
Is it murder if someone enabled an interracial relationship that produced an interracial child?
Is it murder if someone refuses sexual intercourse with a rapist, that a would-be born child is never allowed to be born?
Is it murder if someone is kept imprisoned for a lifetime, without any opportunity to have sexual intercourse?
Is it murder if someone drowns underwater while trying to save the life of another person who also drowns?

[Anonymous]

@Adam You haven’t done any research, and it shows repeatedly time and again. You’re an amateur pretending to be otherwise.

You can’t rebut an argument, because you have no facts or figures, just an assurance of what you believe. At least try posting an article which someone can read, which contains things you believe in.

As I said, I value the amazing accomplishments of the German people, and not the villain who destroyed one of the most advanced Nations on Planet Earth, and caused the deaths of Millions.

This is not to say there wasn’t amazing promise, at the beginning. Then his ego, his demons, the drugs; all got the best of him. Millions suffered. And/or he was just playing the part, he was hire to play. No thanks.

And as I said, he could have won the war easily, but neither you nor AeonKnight have asked me how, so no, I am not going to be revealing that to you.

[ItsNatural]

@Westleyll You’re an imbecile and a baby murderer! Shut the fuck up!

[ItsNatural]

@LEO It is my business and should be everyone else’s too to stop MURDER, which abortion is!!! Those are poor, defenseless babies in the womb totally relying on their mother for their LIVES and you think it’s a CHOICE to KILL it!! That’s evil! After a party has sex that life that has started SHOULD NOT be harmed at all!!

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[ItsNatural]

In almost all circumstances I think that abortion should be illegal, except in the case of saving the life of the mother, in which case it would be up to her. As for being raped by a non-white, I’m not sure on that. But that leaves the vast majority that it would be evil. If you want to be a GOOD person, you should not make such rash decisions in favor of death. Once that the different races hopefully have victory over the Jews, then the mixed races and non-Whites can all go back to their homelands, and in my opinion, that includes US! Only Europe is our homeland and we never should have stolen these lands from the Natives. And no, I’m not a Christian.

[Leo]

@Adam @erich It is not my place to participate in your argument, but some of these comments were reported as inappropriate.

While I do not know the @Administrator’s stance regarding the use of that word, I have changed the few instances that it was used, to instead read ‘Negro,’ pending clarification from her. Using derogatory (as opposed to descriptive) language against an entire race of non-Whites can be harmful to our pro-White cause, sure, but that doesn’t mean @Adam shouldn’t be free to express himself however he wishes. I will ask the owner of WhiteDate to review this and/or inform of her stance about the use of that word in the forum, and reinstate it’s use in all instances if she allows. She may be more concerned about arguments appearing in the forum, than the diction.

Personally, I do not agree with any censorship of opinions and/or racial slurs being expressed on the forum, but I am not the owner of WhiteDate either; she might feel differently than I do about this, and may want these terms to be moderated (I’m not sure if that’s the case, at this time). Regardless, we all need to respect her and her efforts in what content we share on her public-facing dating site that she works tirelessly to maintain and grow, for our beloved pro-White cause.

[Adam]

It’s not worth my time to do your research for you, and frankly I don’t care if you are wrong and I’m right, it’s not my responsibility to educate you, you are not going to change my mind and I’m won’t change yours.
As long as you aren’t actively subverting others I don’t care if you believe the moon is swiss cheese and the sun eats it every time we experience an eclipse.

Even if I am wrong I will continue to live my life as if national socialism is the natural way of sophisticated human social structure and Adolph Hitler was the closest we came to realizing our power as an advanced civilization and I will do everything I can to bring about a white Homeland in the northwest for our people to progenate, incubate and strengthen, anyone who blatantly opposes this is added to the registry of our enemies.

Edit: on language; nobody regulates my language, you are not on stormfront we can say nigger, spick, gook and jew here as far as I know and I don’t give a damn what it makes you feel. I value NIGGER culture and power very much, but I value and Revere my own more.
If you value and respect niggers so much, to amongst them and see how warmly you will be embraced, go ahead and try it.
We’ll be here waiting for you to come slinking back and if you apologize we’ll dress your wounds.

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[Anonymous]

@Adam

Using derogatory language towards black people harms our cause and is inappropriate. You also bad mouth all black people with that derogatory language when in fact there are honorable people in any given race, and quite frankly, people who dishonor themselves with that language like you. Different groups of people have different experiences in life and it’s unfortunate when someone is short sighted as you are being and not recognizing that others also have had tough experiences in life.

[Anonymous]

@Adam

How about you do some more reading. Ford did indeed supply the Soviets, you would know this if you were an avid reader.

I said nothing about religion, I was talking about you and others thinking the H guy was a savior. He may have been good at the beginning, yet throughout his short career he deliberately let the British and the rest get the upper hand.

Millions of Germans were dead, disabled, women were raped to death, children starved, cities in ruins. 60 Million Christians died but we never hear about that; we hear something else and pay for something else.

[Adam]

The first thing you’ve said that I can wholeheartedly agree with, hating negroids, deporting Mexicans and banning Muslims shouldn’t be even 5% of an awake whites mindset, love your people, choose them as much as you possibly can, the nonwhites ALWAYS choose their own.

But Henry Ford glomming onto eastern jewish groups is wrong and stupid, he (supposedly) distributed ESOZ copies with his cars, so why would he have been pro communist also seeing as how it’s OPENLY DOCUMENTED that he toured 3rd Reich facilities and brought mass industrialized production to his factories modeling it from NSDAP frameworks.

Your information is a little suspect and I don’t think you are “of the body”

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[Adam]

That’s reaching, I haven’t revealed my religious standings and I don’t yet see anyone having done so here either.

[Anonymous]

@Adam

That is your opinion and you’re welcome to it. Now try using a genuine argument, which means using facts and figures, like the two main articles I posted above. Try going line by line and rebutting the points made by Patrick O’Carrol.

Take your time.

Instead you made an statement like liberals do, calling my legitimate arguments such that you claim I “swallowed all of the propaganda hook, line and sinker”.

You can do much better than that.
But first you would need to open your mind, and actually read the sources I posted. Again, take your time. Maybe it’s you who has swallowed some propaganda?

Is it merely because being human, you want to think there was a “savior”?

I prefer to give all of the positive accomplishments to the German Volk themselves.

A better accomplishment today will be when young men and women simply refuse to join the military. Refuse to fight in another horrible conflict for bad people.

When I think of WWII and advertisements and programs celebrating the amazing hard work of the US military to achieve what they did, I think, but what if they refused to sign up, and instead stayed home and fought the bankers and other rift raft in our midst?

Enemies, foreign and domestic. They’re all domestic IMO.

[Adam]

You seem to have swallowed ALL of the propaganda hook, line and sinker around him.
I don’t think you are on a level of unlearning to even converse on the topic in good faith.

[Anonymous]

Counterpoint.

https://www.unz.com/article/its-not-the-nazis-mr-putin-its-the-jews/

[Anonymous]

@AeonKnight

Please read the 3rd paragraph of the Introduction to his article The Massive, Hidden Holocaust of German Civilians by Patrick O’Carrol April 19, 2024 to be found at Rense.com (first page)

What became of the perpetrators of this real Holocaust? Hitler was given his freedom. CIA insider John Lear confirmed that he died in the Mayo clinic, Rochester MN in 1968 (page 6 of 7)

https://rense.com/general97/the-massive-hidden-holocaust.php

[Anonymous]

https://www.unz.com/jtaylor/white-guilt-up-birth-rates-down/

[Anonymous]

I am not big on abortion for Whites pro creating with other Whites, not in the least. I am big on whites having safe spaces, safe, peaceful prosperous neighborhoods, cities, states and a mostly all white country again. It was about 80 percent white when I grew up, yet I remember having second thoughts about the diversity lies.

When and if we ever gain control over our currency, media, and all institutions again, then there will be plenty of financial resources for young whites to have kids.

[Leo]

Lol, what an interesting conversation we have here.

I suppose, I’ll throw my $0.02 out there, for whoever may be interested in it:

My opinion on the abortion matter would be to let abortions be decided by the parties involved. If you’re not directly involved in the sexual intercourse, then it’s none of your business what others decide (although that doesn’t mean, as someone else not involved in the sexual intercourse, you’re incapable of asserting your opinions upon others through your actions). Every pregnancy is circumstantial, and you’re typically in no position to influence whether someone else gives birth, unless your body’s involved.

Something else to consider: while it’s obviously natural for a man and woman to procreate, I imagine stillbirths, miscarriages, and other defects or mutations are natural phenomena, too. Does abortion arise in other non-human animals? I’m not sure, but I doubt it’s common, since abortion is anti-life, and I’ve found the meaning of life to involve survival of the self, at least until reproduction. I’ve also seen auto-cannibalism and the consumption of competitors’ offspring, in other species, intriguingly.

As controversial as this statement may be: males being physically dominant over females, enables rape, protection from competitors, and the survival of a species – even in scenarios where consent never arises. Similarly, persons intellectually dominant over others, enables eugenics against, and the extermination of, another species/sub-species (AKA race) in scenarios where, again, consent never arises (especially by way of forced sterilizations, vaccinations, diet, schooling, propaganda, etc).

Survival of the fittest, whether that be in the form of strength or intelligence (and related technologies), shall forever reign over opinions and feelings. Reality overshadows our forum posts – let’s not forget that inserting new information into any platform through the Internet, oftentimes doesn’t change anything in the real-world. And what we think is moral or immoral, isn’t as important either, unless we’re sufficiently powerful and positioned to medically and/or physically do something about it …

Wait, where have I heard that idea before?

[Anonymous]

The old saying is: Love Conquers All.

So the only way we can win, is to focus on loving other White people in a positive way, talking up our historical achievements, etc.

The efforts to fight them militarily proved futile and they won ever more power and wealth.

As far as managing limited resources, take German tank manufacturing for example. The Germans built them one at a time. Sure great craftmanship. Awesome.

Meanwhile the Soviets learned mass production from Henry Ford, who sold both to the Germans and to the Soviets.

Needless to say the enormous numbers of Soviet tanks won the day in the end.

Had Herr Harebrain focused on winning an economic war, like the Japanese did after WWII, we would all live in a different world.

Meaning he could have sold Millions of the original Volkswagon to both the Soviets and to communist China. He could have won the war against central bankers by giving everyone a different choice.

WWII was really the central bankers versus the Germans wanting to break free. Herr Harebrain made sure the central bankers won.

[Anonymous]

@AeonKnight

you wrote “Hitler refusing to listen to his generals also proves nothing.”

It proves everything. What fantasy world do you live in? Honest to goodness real leaders do not attempt to micro manage, they seek out the best and brightest and LISTEN to them and do EXACTLY what they say!

Do you know the war could have easily been won, early on? Do you know how? Do you know that yet again, Herr Harebrain REFUSED to listen to brighter minds of EXPERIENCED Officers?

Sure, he had some early successes. Which went to his head. According to Goering he was a totally different person from when he was happy, giddy after taking Paris, to when the Germans foolishly tried to conquer the Soviet giant. Never mind that Napoleon lost everything, Herr Harebrain knew better! NOT.

Here’s an article of what kind of EVIL happens which we are still dealing with, because of Herr Harebrain, the Corporal.

Corpses at Dachau and Buchenwald were dead German Soldiers according to new evidence. National Vanguard.

Corpses at Dachau and Buchenwald Were Dead German Soldiers According to New Evidence

[Anonymous]

@ A_Spartan_Speaks

Word! It’s always the same imbeciles.

[AeonKnight]

odysee.com/@modernpolitics:0/ModPol-HitlerZionism:7

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

If you think that abortion should be illegal in all cases then that means you would force a White women who has been raped by a non-White to give birth to a mixed race abomination. Now that is truly evil! This is why I hate retarded, imbecilic christ-cuck conservatives with their insipid “values”. If you are against abortion all cases you are an enemy of our race!

[AeonKnight]

@WestleyII

How is that reconciled with the points I listed above (arresting Rothschilds, banning secret societies, ending usury)?

It’s one thing to say he got money from bankers (I’m sure a lot of goy millionaires and aristocrats were happy to be rid of Jews and jump ship, as many will in the future once the tide turns), another that he was financed by Jews in order to fight Jews so that Germany could be even “more defeated” than it already was, while offering Whites a legitimate chance at winning in the process. Doesn’t sound like a risk they’d want to take, especially considering the incalculable implications the movement could and did have in other countries, especially Britain and America, which would also need to be perfectly accounted for in such a plan. There is no hopium here — Hitler was not a perfect man and I have no stakes on him as an individual; it would change absolutely nothing if he were a pawn or a Jew, but it just doesn’t add up.

Hitler refusing to listen to his generals also proves nothing. You had a single man micromanaging the existential effort of an entire race and the fate of humanity: stress, paranoia and exhaustion will get to you. Again, hindsight is 20/20, and it’s very easy to be an armchair general. Claiming that he “betrayed” Germany is also a big statement — perhaps you’d know how to be immune from scarcity and solve logistics and manufacturing during wartime against the rest of the planet. Giving up or fighting against all odds: which one is more of a betrayal?

[Anonymous]

@AeonKnight

He was indeed financed by wealthy jews on Wall Street, you’ve obviously not heard of Professor Sutton? So no, it has not been debunked. I don’t have time this morning to go back and get all of the research I’ve done on him.

Here is the link to Professor Sutton’s main book, there are others.

And yes, Hitler had financing from wealthy jews in the UK. It has NOT been debunked, other than people having hopium. Sure, he accomplished a lot. I’ve been all over Germany on the Autobahn, a great achievement. I’ve also been in a Hitler house, an amazing piece of old school German craftmanship. And I’ve been in underground tunnels and storage areas which civilians rarely if ever get access too.

Hitler refused to listen to his Generals numerous times, which is why one wrote the famous book “Lost Victories”. You can deduce which one.

Maybe he had good intentions at one time, but in the end he betrayed Germany and the German people. He also could not and would not listen to those who knew that Germany could not produce the same as the Soviets. So after Stalingrad, it was a slow war of catastrophe.

Maybe his Doctor could be blamed, for putting him on meth to wake up and some other drug to go to sleep? Or maybe people could realize that power solely in the hands of one man is a bad idea.

[AeonKnight]

@Adam

“For example I think the Hitler wasn’t what we were told in school, TV, movies and books all our lives, I bet he was a very intelligent gentleman of Good intentions and with little to no bad habits to speak of.”

No shit lol how is that an unpopular opinion? He was the closest humanity’s ever had to a saint.

@WestleyII

“He was financed by wealthy jews on Wall Street and wealthy jews in the UK such as the Rothschild’s.”

Not only he wasn’t – it’s been debunked God knows how many times -, he arrested the Rothschilds, banned secret societies, and removed Germany from international Jewish banking.

“His actions completely destroyed Germany in the end”

Yeah, because they lost the war, mate. Had he done nothing, they’d be destroyed all the same. I don’t think you understand what Weimar really was. You’re also blaming Hitler for Jewish war crimes, as if that makes any sense, like the reason he did anything was to assure extra suffering after a planned loss. You’d need more than speculation to prove that. The other points mentioned were either due to him not making the decision personally, or being too nice/naive, or 20/20 hindsight. “His enemies did x after the war, and also his people were forced to do y, and maybe he went to Artarctica”. Completely disjointed line of reasoning.

[Adam]

I refute everything and anything that detracts from his “legacy” too much misinformation, too much interference from too many angles, and the complexity of the German language is very difficult to get solid translations, the Germans under Hitler were meticulous record keepers, anyone who doesn’t tow the line that Hitler bad is quashed, vilified and in the case of any Europeans even jailed for blasphemy against the official narrative, racism, antisemitism, etc,.
So I personally take it on faith that he really was the good guy and I believe that everything to the contrary is part of an agenda to discredit his character. After all, you can hate the man, but to hate the message is weak and stupid, especially if the message is to your personal benefit and the benefit to your people.
Subversion has been the primary tactic of the Jews for 3000 years, they ALWAYS profit from the fracture of a society, the distrust of a people of themselves and their leaders and thrive in conditions of agony and brother wars. Like it or not the German people and the britons are very close relatives (the white ones anyway)

[Anonymous]

@Adam

I believe that Hitler was a member of the Illuminati, just playing his part to cause the deaths of millions of Christians. He was financed by wealthy jews on Wall Street and wealthy jews in the UK such as the Rothschild’s.

His actions completely destroyed Germany in the end, and caused women and children to be sent to Soviet Gulags to die miserable deaths, if they did not die on the way there. Many of the women had small children who no doubt likely perished. Other young German women had their breasts cut off and then were stabbed to death by evil Soviet soldiers at the orders of some Bolshevik filthy scum bucket. Estimates are that about a Million German women were raped repeatedly.

The country was in complete ruins and all the top military scientists and weapons went either to the Soviets or to the Americans. Sort of like when dementia Joe Biden let Billions of our equipment be captured by the Taliban.

There was the time I read that near the end of the war he let some high ranking jews go, who should have been kept captive. In fact wealthy jews could always buy their way out of Germany, and that left the poor jews still there.

Should it not have been the other way around, if he really wanted to put them out of business? The wealthy ones were the ones who knew how to profit from their system as they were insiders. Why let wealthy insiders go?

Too many times he did things militarily which helped the Allies win, such as letting the British go when they were trapped on the beach. As if the British would ever do the Germans any favors. Quite the opposite. He never should have done that and it came back to seriously harm German efforts to win the war.

Then there are too many stories about how he lived out his life, mostly in South America. Rumors confirmed by CIA agents.

The good German officers and men who were left are rumored to have gone to an underground base in Antartica.

[ItsNatural]

I still say abortion is wrong.

And yes, quite probably Hitler was a good person with noble causes.

[Adam]

Well we don’t have to continue to hash out abortions, we can talk about other unpopular opinions; unpopular in that we couldn’t mention them anywhere else except for a pro white forum.

For example I think the Hitler wasn’t what we were told in school, TV, movies and books all our lives, I bet he was a very intelligent gentleman of Good intentions and with little to no bad habits to speak of.

[AeonKnight]

This thread will be called out for “fedposting” very shortly lol

[AeonKnight]

@EastNordid

There are nanobots being developed that literally carry non-motile sperm: https://lifeboat.com/blog.images/a-nanobot-picks-up-a-sperm-by-the-tail-and-inseminates-an-egg-with-it-by-the-institute-for-integrative-nanosciences-in-germany.gif

You wanna talk about real “evil”, this is it.

Even birth by c-section or not breastfeeding children has huge effects on both physical and mental health, and people think bringing sperm that can’t move to term is a good idea.

[EastNordid]

I support sterilisation mandates for individuals at 85 IQ or below (about 16% of the population, mind you). Before the radical 60s-70s the definition of mental retardation stood at 85 IQ instead of the current 70 IQ. You figure out why it was lowered. Just being born White doesn’t automatically make an individual part of the White community, they must earn that respect first and it can be lost. +30 Couples who can’t conceive naturally shouldn’t try to use IVF because it’s dysgenic. Warning: huge blackpill incoming

[AeonKnight]

Forcing Whites who are shit parents, have low impulse control or just don’t want kids to have children is dysgenic as it keeps those genes incubated in the genepool. It’s not a complex issue at all. @Adam and @ItsNatural are making completely illogical arguments from emotion and universalism. @A_Spartan_Speaks is right. Also, there’s a difference in encouraging/promoting abortion under false realities like Jews do today (“just a clump of cells”, no health/mental problems from aborting, etc.) and forcing women who are unfit parents to raise children. There’s an argument to be made for specific temporary solutions, but even those wouldn’t apply since what Whites lack right now isn’t quantity (for clarification: the birthrate should be above replacement, but we currently have all the numbers we need). Remove the Jewish propaganda and misinformation on abortion/life and abortion would go down. Another reason women wanna kill their kids/not have any kids is their lack of faith/respect in modern men.

[Anonymous]

@ItsNatural

“Abortion is murder, even to non-Whites”.

Call if whatever you like. I am all for liberals which includes a lot of jews, to abort their own babies. ))

[Adam]

Hey, if we can create the northwest Republic as long as they gtfo we won’t have to kill anyone, they just have to leave. If we had a homeland of our own there wouldn’t be most of these problems we live with.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

Call me evil, if you wish, but as far as I’m concerned, the few jews and the fewer non-Whites, the better, by any means necessary. Our people are in a war for our very survival, so anything and everything we do going forward will be justified!

[ItsNatural]

You guys are evil. Abortion is murder, even to non-Whites.
And Spartan, unfortunately God as portrayed in the Bible, kills children a lot and does a lot of miscarriages. So you’d fit right in being a Christian.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

This is why I can never be a christian. I’ll never come around to the point of view that all life is sacred and precious.

[Adam]

In alternate universe they are.

In another alternate universe white nationalists discover a chemical or biological compound that renders non-whites completely infertile the world over.

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

I think that White women should be strongly discouraged from aborting their unborn children. By contrast, I think that jews and non-Whites should be strongly encouraged, and highly incentivized to abort their offspring.

[Adam]

I think abortion should absolutely be illegal.
I’ve been a sexually active male since my late teens, and I’ve not had one single unwanted pregnancy happen because of my actions. Without getting into details, I am just that good. The creation of a life should be one of the most solemn things a white woman or man does, spreading your legs or seed all over willy nilly is not acceptable, it’s taken me 15+ years to see this, but I think it’s absolutely true. Kids aren’t puppies or kittens, I don’t advocate for killing them either, but I’d kill millions of household pets before I’d kill one single invetro (white) embrio. It’s wrong.
End rant.

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