[CrusaderCelt]

Idk mate, I’m not super familiar with christogenea but I’d be inclined to agree that salvation only exists for the white race – and that’s because salvation is from sin which only exists for the White race – and that’s because sin is a transgression of the Law, which was only ever given to the White race.

If only one race descends from Adam, that’s a big game changer in understanding the bible as well as the world around you.

[Anonymous]

You are mistaken @hunter. It is not that I am “anti-White—or at least not pro-White.” It is simply a matter of priority. In my opinion the moral law, taught by the church, should be placed above any racial considerations. However, these racial issues often fall in line with the moral law and can thus be followed. Basically, I think that racialism without moralism is futile. Likewise, moralism without racialism is incomplete and will ultimately fail. I am ,however, not a blind follower of the church. If there is corruption it must be dealt with.

[Joe]

@PineHiker absolutely, and if we can begin the fire through statements that drive curiosity, then all the better for it. We must awaken new blood if we want to make progress and the young people are at a loss in direction, and we have the answers. The petty and small theology of the judiazed evangelicals will be its own undoing. We must only go forward with the bold statements, and as @Hunter said, with theological consistency, articulate why we still have the best answers in Scripture and the best articulation in Society.
In this, it might be helpful to point out that a great resource that articulates what a lot of us have been saying for years comes from:
https://antelopehillpublishing.com/product/faith-and-heritage-a-christian-nationalist-anthology/

And by the way, they also carry a fascinating biography of Hitler and the historical setting of Germany out of the Weimar years. I can’t recommend it enough:
https://antelopehillpublishing.com/product/hitler-by-wyndham-lewis/

[Duty-of-Care]

To support your concept of using local (small, non-denominational) churches to organize I suggest studying up on the subject relevant to our mission here on white-date:

Biblical Defense of Ethno Nationalism

summary-conclusion: “The foundation of a Biblical nation as defined in the Table of Nations is derived from common ancestry, common religion, common history, and common customs, and mutually possessed ideas and values will be built upon this foundation. In America we have made the same mistake as the Romans before us, and we will not escape their eventual fate. We European Christians who are heirs of Western Civilization are at a crossroads. We can either choose to continue to wantonly follow the paths trod by our Roman imperial pagan forebears and meet the same impending doom that very nearly ruined the West, or we can revive the spirit of Christian nationalism which saved the West and preserved its civilization for countless generations of the European people. The solution is to return to the old paths that our ancestors once trod, 65 and to once again embrace the God of our fathers. God alone can rebuild our cities and put flesh upon the dry bones of our ancestors. 66 It is incumbent upon us to embrace the future with optimism that God will preserve a faithful remnant to once again rebuild the ruins which we now dwell among. 67”

Personally, I’m building fraternal benefit society IRL in my local community from a 12 year effort with like-minded fellow-travelers. The most recent “private” group discussion on the subject for self-governing social-orders is Dominion Property Taxation: Private Gab.com group.

[Hunter]

@PineHiker I presently disagree, Churches are not a good venue for logical communication on the issue of White survivalism unless you happen to be the top preacher. Certain sports and music events and venues are a far better option.

[Hunter]

@Hunter,We must reform our beliefs to the teachings of the church, not the church to our beliefs. While we can certainly promote racial beliefs amongst the parishioners, it is wrong to change the church for this purpose. That being said, If belonging to a Protestant denomination I agree with what you are saying. The denominations that have come about as a result of the reformation have week foundation and therefore are very easy to change, as seen through the continual breaking off and starting of new churches. As far as the positive christianity principle, While it is practical for the current predicament, i dont believe it is a long term solution.

Sorry, @Tony, but if you are on this website rather than any number of Christian websites, you must value biology (specifically the White sub-species) before your theology. From what I gather you do not hold this perspective and are content with the anti-White—or at least not pro-White—nature of 99%+~ of all present Christianity.

[Joe]

@Tony praise God, brother, I’m glad to hear it. The Orthodox Church is very righteous, although there are some Metropolitans who are doing some evil, such as Metropolitan Serafim at Cop27: https://odysee.com/@thenewamericanvideo:7/at-un%2C-religious-leaders-explain:1?r=3q23tFjQVK95mG2tv1G9DcMSjZy37VK3
watch it here if the embedded video doesn’t show
Jews, protestant liberals, and globalists–what could go wrong?

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[Anonymous]

I agree, when I said the church I meant more tradition. I’m Orthodox so I believe that I can trust the church as there is no such error as seen in the Catholic Church.

[Joe]

@Tony you are right that we must conform our beliefs to the Church–so long as that Church is consistent with Scripture. That is the ultimate standard. My goal here is not to pick a fight between Roman Catholics and those in the Protestant denominations, but you and I both know that the supposed uniformity of the Roman Catholic Church has been severely called into question since Vatican II and has culminated in the rise of the man from Argentina.
I will absolutely agree with you concerning the reformation’s fracturing the unity of Christendom and we see a problem with that in Europa today. That being said, the modern move of the Roman Catholic Church to support “immigrants” in particular and marxism in general in general is hardly worth supporting or discussing.
And you are right that if you take your approach to the Roman Catholic Church, it is not a long term solution, but if we were to go boldly back to the Roman Catholic Church prior to Jew War 2, then socially, we would all be better for it.
And the Positive Christianity of the Reich, as succinctly illustrated by D Cajus Fabricius is a good starting point.

[PineHiker]

Agreed, Churches are great for networking with young awoken Whites.

[Anonymous]

@Hunter,We must reform our beliefs to the teachings of the church, not the church to our beliefs. While we can certainly promote racial beliefs amongst the parishioners, it is wrong to change the church for this purpose. That being said, If belonging to a Protestant denomination I agree with what you are saying. The denominations that have come about as a result of the reformation have week foundation and therefore are very easy to change, as seen through the continual breaking off and starting of new churches. As far as the positive christianity principle, While it is practical for the current predicament, i dont believe it is a long term solution.

[Hunter]

@Monday, practically speaking, your best hope is to settle your theology (as logically coherent as possible) and enter a top leadership position at an existing Church organization, and slowly bring it to your desired pro-White perspective. Again, I would recommend studying Positive Christianity in the Third Reich and Zoroastrianism as reference material.

[Joe]

If you’re referring to the beliefs of the Christogenea concept of Biblical interpretation–wherein blacks have no soul and salvation is only offered to white folks, then I agree with you about heresies. Perhaps I should be more clear about what I mean by the Bible being a source for being racially aware. The Bible, for instance, teaches that while all of mankind are descent from Adam–it also teaches that races are meant to be kept separate–thus no miscegenation.

One clear point of teaching this in the New Testament is:
Acts 17:25-26
25 Neither is [God] worshipped with men’s hands, as though He needed any thing, seeing He giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Now, verse 26 clearly teaches that from one blood (from Adam), all the different races (“nations”) have descent. Nevertheless, this is not teaching that race doesn’t matter–since God has also determined not only their times (rise and fall) but also the extent of their habitation. In other words, the boundaries in which they are to live. If God has set up the fence-line, so to speak, then different races should not be able to mix together.
So why do we see that in the world? Because man rebels against God, transgresses (trespasses) against the commands and purposes of God, and the multicultural, multiracial society is one of those violations.
The tower of Babel is an example of this and that civilization of Babylon exists today in the EU–and will be destroyed in Revelation 18. This isn’t to say, of course, that the only or foundational issue with the modern instantiation of Babylon is strictly a racial problem–there are many other sins, which Revelation calls out specifically–but Babylon would not be possible if it were not for it’s multi-racial nature.
And of course, how could we fail to mention the jews in relation to all this! They are the driving force for multiracialism for all other races (especially whites), and they are the ones who will be brought low in judgment when Babylon is destroyed, as Revelation 11 makes it clear that it is the jews in view as the predominant force.
Anyway, this is just a light touch on the subject–and the New Testament. I’m focusing my attention there because some Christians would, wrongly, argue that the New Testament is all that matters.
We’re blessed in that a lot of Christian writers have already written about the sins of miscegenation and the separation of the races. One good, and Southern, example of this is the commentary series by B. H. Carroll, An Interpretation of the English Bible (https://www.grace-ebooks.com/library/index.php?dir=B.%20H.%20Carroll/). It’s not comprehensive, but he does touch on these subjects in certain passages.

[Anonymous]

I agree, Since joining the church The number of people I have encountered either racially conscious or at least not opposed to such beliefs has risen exponentially. However, I would like to put forward this for discussion. I think it is dangerous to look at the Bible as a racial book. While there are certainly racial elements, and yes even a good bit about the Jews, to look at it in terms of racial lines leads to many other problems and even heresies.

[Joe]

Well, whenever moderation comes, I’ll look forward to discussion!

[Hunter]

“This post is awaiting moderation.” How annoying.

[Hunter]

Yes, aspects of the book of Revelation are useful, and the Synagogue of Satan like the Elders of Zion, may quite literally exist. However, Christianity needs another reformation if it is to become pro-White. If you are interested in that direction I would recommend researching Positive Christianity and Christianity in general during the Third Reich (and perhaps Zoroastrianism) as a starting point. I would also like to invite you to join Phoenix Rising.

[Joe]

I realize that not everyone on Whitedate is a Christian, but for those of us who are, smaller Churches–those who haven’t sold out to the Walmart mentality Big Box Church–are typically, ethnically segregated. This seems like a very good place to start creating more white-centric communities. It could take some time to turn a Church into a more racially conscious group, but in my experience, I have heard more racially aware conversation about blacks than in any other place.
Additionally, the Bible gives the best arguments for racial awareness and segregation–and the jewish issue! Synagogue of Satan anyone! Lol, so I’m sure this has probably been discussed already, but I wanted to see if anyone else had similar ideas or wanted to engage with this topic.

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