[Christopher]

I appreciate your replies, apologies for the delay in responding, was dealing with some family health issues at a non-grid location.
I debate you not, seeing that the 14 eyes (I assume the larger version or perhaps further enlarged tumor that is the 5 Eyes?), was a new one on me.
It’s amazing the amount of information suppression from one place to the next. I did a bit of searching and the notes you outlined here took way more digging that it otherwise should have, especially for details so crucial to the nature of a business such as that which Proton is running.
Where I’m located, unfortunately, it is an accepted fact that the ingestion of data, comms, etc., all take place at the backbone and respective switching stations and hubs, leaving it up to those interested parties to drag their dull toothed comb through the mountains of data to find that which they seek. While it’s up to us to avoid their keywords and triggers and the like. That said, I still stand by Proton as an effective tool for combating and protecting against those non-state actors who would otherwise capitalize my data and ruin my weekend lol.
Appreciate your responses and insights and apologies if I offended or seemed negligent at any point. Not my intentions.

[suprematist_Bookworm]

I have to correct you again, Christopher. Proton has been founded by (((Jason Stockman)))… It is sponsored by the European Union. It has cooperated with law enforcement to track its users, in one case they handed the IP-address of a user to the government, which led to his imprisonment.
Last but not least, Proton worked together with Israeli company Bynet Data Communications in 2015. All Proton-Data ran through Israel for an extended period of time back then.
Also ProtonVPN has its servers in Sweden, which is part of the 14-eyes.
I repeat, there is not a single VPN provider you can trust!

[suprematist_Bookworm]

Obviously you haven’t read my comment, so I won’t elaborate again to you why you’re wrong. If you feel safe using a VPN, go for it…

[Christopher]

A spot on call my friends.
Certainly web-protection & counter-surveillance is, and always will be, cat and mouse, if not Lion and mouse.
That said, information & experience interacting with certain types of information begets more knowledge & experience and so on & so forth. Privacy Pages, VPNs, Tor as you wisely mentioned, are the sort of baby steps most people (for some insane reason) fail to consider, likely because they assume their personal sense of freedoms & rights extend to the digital medium, which, certainly, they do not. And such rights and freedoms are only shrinking as society plots on in it’s digital self extension.
That said, everything you said was entirely true. Though researching companies can help protect you against some of the risks mentioned (ProtonVPN, ProtonMail have seemed to remain both systemically and regionally independent, and when they have been compromised, they’ve been incredibly transparent about it which I also appreciate). One can also employ tools such as Virtual PCs, Remote Virtual System Logins and even masked Virtual System Controllers to hide location, system ID, and many of the details you mentioned (including the font details, which I’d totally spaced on! Kudos!).

None of this is to be obstinate but rather, in excitement as it’s quite rare to encounter people who know their stuff in this realm. Truly appreciate the reply! A little friction smooths the stone and the strongest steel is borne of the hottest furnace. Always appreciate the chance to deep dive on a subject 🙂

[Anonymous]

VPNs prevent your internet provider from simply telling ZOG everything you do on the web.

They’re not a magic trick or anything, of course, but pretty useful.
You can also choose a VPN located in a country unlikely to comply with the government you’re worried about the most.

[suprematist_Bookworm]

Christopher if you believe that a VPN hides anything, you have been fooled big time. It can hide your identity from the hackers in your mom’s basement you wrote about, sure, but not from the government. Many VPNs cooperated with governments already and had to hand over to them all their data. If you use a VPN, it means that you need to trust your provider a 100%. And you shouldn’t do that. Like I said, people did before and then their private data has been handed over to the government on a silver plate. So good luck trusting your privacy to a company.
Privacy pages in your browser hide nothing from anybody, except maybe your roommate who searches your browser history. Tor is good, but it is not that simple either. Tor doesn’t hide what you do on the net, but it makes it impossible for a hacker to know, who is doing what. That being said, it has often been speculated that some of the Tor servers, especially the exit nodes, are run by the NSA and the like. If that is the case and they run enough servers, they could still very well know who is doing what. Last but not least, your IP-address is by far not the only way to identify you on the internet. Hackers (and three-letter-agencies) can also see what system you are using, which browser, what kind of addons you have installed, the size of your browser, fonts used by your browser, WebGl, AudioContext, and so on. All these things combined are enough to identify a single computer…
So if you use Tor, the browser opens in a certain size, and you must not change that size, nor install any addons in Tor, in order to remain one of many hundreds of similar looking Tor-users.
You should always assume that what you are doing on the internet can be and is being traced back to you!
Having said all of the above, I am by far no expert in IT things, so if there is anything wrong or missing in my statement, feel free to correct me.

[Christopher]

Hello Friends,

Quite new to the site here, first post in any forum n fact. I came to this thread, not out of entitlement regarding services provided and medium upkeep costs to ensure those services can securely and reliably be available at a keystroke, but rather, my concerns regarding the security of identities and payment.

To believe there isn’t already a ghost-Hoover bot for the FBI and likely NSA already sitting on any and every server that acts as a host for this site and any site like it, would be naive at best, and foolish at worst.

Wisdom is upon those who see the light of the morning, not those who confuse the fire of the city at dusk for the sun’s rising.

It is not hackers of the Mom’s basement variety who would fix their gaze upon us: it is those whom already refer to us as the enemy, the oppressor, who beat our children 15 against 1 in schools our taxes pay for while teachers pull out phones to film and post rather than breaking up the fights and explain it all away as social justice. We must protect ourselves against the full DRTBOX, STINGRAY surveillance and invasion persuasion of our own government. Because make no bones about it. This version, a hijacked Constitutional Republic, has it’s iron sights fixed squarely on us, those like us, and those of us willing to point them out, the new stewards of the Holodomor 2024.

Protect yourselves. Your Payment options (the social credit score is already here in microsteps).

Remember. VPN’s hide where you are and the machine of origin (in part). Privacy Pages and Browsers (Tor) hide what you’re looking at, posting, etc.

I’m very grateful to have found a place where I know I don’t have to have the type of paranoia and flinch that comes with merely saying who and what I am an believe, and to discuss our history and future and present as something unique and special and set aside. Forgive me, the flinch and defensive instinct will be a long unearthing process. And perhaps that’s what this warning is mostly rooted in. Better safe than sorry with the land of zeroes and one’s though.

God Bless

[Henry]

I already paid for it normally. I should have posted sooner that there’s no longer an issue. I figured the website was secure enough.

[Inndawoods]

Frankly, don’t worry to much about it? Just pay the money normally i’d say. I understand worry, but the people that run this site have agency and are doing their best to protect the integrity of the site, including your ID. But that’s me.

[Henry]

When trying to pay for the membership, it says they take American Express. I tried to use an American Express gift card that I bought with cash here in the US in order to hide my identity, but the card was declined. I guess it’s because the website is based in Europe. Does anybody have any ideas for how I can get the money on this card to pay for a membership?

[Anonymous]

I had my European friends or friends’ husbands being offered significantly better salaries in North America, too.

I was surprised by Michael’s post.
Maybe it depends on the occupation and the company.

It shouldn’t stop us from supporting this website.
I do realize that membership here costs more than on OKStupid or Plenty of Shi…, but if you realize that all mainstream dating apps and websites are owned by ONE group of (((companies))), you will understand why they mostly (if not only) recommend you profiles of Africans, Arabs and Asians, often transgender.

I even did and experiment when we were still engaged with my now-husband and he still had his profile on one of these sewage dating websites, set to looking for friends only.
I set my location to his, my search criteria to within 10 km only, and my preferred age to his exact age.
Guess how many hours I had to swipe on all the Indians, Pakistanis, Africans etc.?
I NEVER found his profile. NEVER.

And he was mainly suggested trans brown people or Filipinas.

The very few Caucasian female profiles suggested to him there were all Marijuana-smoking, atheist and leftist…

[After the Rain]

@Michael At least 4 ex-colleagues of mine left Europe for SoCal/Bay Area specifically because it’s the one place where they can get good salaries on pair with their skills’ level. Young high skilled men in STEM fields have more job opportunities and high paying salaries in the US than anywhere else in the world.
Personally I wish they could have found a dignified job in Europe, but can’t really fault young men who put a lot of effort into their education for leaving for greener pastures. I can see why they opted for financial security overseas over slaving away for pennies in Europe.

I’m sure Commiefornia has plenty of issue, but from what I’ve heard from anyone money ain’t one.

[Anonymous]

That’s scary. I had no idea, seriously. Where I come from salaries are rather equal or lower for women because they get pregnant and then go on a fully-paid one-year maternity leave and their position has to wait for them.
Not so long ago we had to put marital status in our resumes and young married women had a difficult time finding a job.

[WhiteMan]

People really don’t realize that men don’t have as much money as women these days. Women are promoted in jobs and paid more than men. This may not be true in all fields, but it certainly is in Los Angeles, California which is Politically Correct central.

Some really don’t understand how much prejudice and actions against White Men there is in California.

[Anonymous]

Very good ideas!

[Anonymous]

I would recommend the following to improve the site.

1. Allow all people (non and paying) to like other profiles. This allows people to convey they are interested. The paying accounts are able to initiated a message/chat with paying and non paying. (Once the message/chat is started the non-paying can continue replying to that interaction)

2. The profile media section is a little bugged. Adding albums, doesn’t split the views/images into their albums but merely applies a text overlay when the image is opened. Would be better to split them into sections which is just easier for people to view.

3. Not sure if you willing to have ads placed on the website, think you could be very selective on what is showed. That would help with the funding.

4. Have fund raisers that support companies/products of interest where this site gets a finder fee. Or even just a monthly goal to raise funds, merely just having it up will drive traffic and people who can will contribute.

Though the root cause still needs to be addressed, which has been stated a dozen times, the ratio of men to women.
*We need a drive to bring in the ladies. Not sure how, but we need to find ways to do so.

[Midwest Magnetism]

For everyone who is averse to paying, let me say why I’m in favor of a paid site:

1. It weeds out those who aren’t serious. Many people join dating sites simply to receive attention; much time and emotional energy is wasted. Nothing says ”I’m serious” like opening your wallet.

2. It’s economically necessary. Comparing this (relatively small) site to huge players like OKCupid, eHarmony, etc. isn’t fair. A small site hasn’t yet achieved economy of scale. In other words, their costs per user are much higher than a large site like OKCupid. As a result, it’s harder to break even, much less turn a profit. All businesses are affected by this principle.

3. This site is the only one of its kind. To my knowledge, no other dating site is exclusively White. And the large sites, which allow you to filter by race, are being pressured to stop doing so. In 5 years, I predict that filtering by race will be forbidden.

4. This site is more than just dating. There is access to the Forum, articles, interviews, Get Well With Tabitha, etc. These additional features are free, but still valuable. Personally, I’d pay for the non-dating features alone.

5. In case anyone hasn’t noticed: we are being White-erased. Even the word ”genocide” is no longer an exaggeration. The antidote is more White children. Sites like WhiteDate have an intrinsic value in that they facilitate White marriages and children — even if not your own. So, think of a membership as an investment into White communities in general.

There are probably even more reasons to pay, but I think the above is enough.

Finally, it’s not lost on me that money is scarce among some of us — especially in the era of Covid-19. For those of you who truly can’t afford a membership, I believe you should be excused. But this is an argument that you shouldn’t have to pay now, not that you shouldn’t have to pay in principle. The principles for paying are above, and they aren’t going away any time soon.

Cheers everyone.

[Administrator]

The status indication (Paid, Benefactor, Pioneer) is visible on the search results so far. It is on our to-do-list for adding it to the opened profiles.

[Anonymous]

I’m a lady that paid if anyone wants to chat 😉 Maybe we should start indicating that on profiles?

[Bernd]

Thank you for the quick reply and explanation. I’m sorry for using that silly e-mail address. It was initially used for trolling somewhere else, and it was the only “anonymous” e-mail account I had, so I just re-used it. I exchanged it with a proper e-mail address and updated the “about me” section.

[Administrator]

A new members needs to show us that he/ she is one of us. It’s a question of respect and trust. We only want people who are woke and serious about the white cause.

I generally reject applications:

1) When this request is ignored: “Briefly describe why you joined this white dating site. Your reasons could range from looking for a traditionally minded partner, race awareness, what redpilled you, to what it means for you to be European etc. Write in your mother tongue if you wish to attract members who share your cultural background.”

2) When the email address contains vulgar words (unfortunately still your case).

3) When the applicant displays a blackpilled, negative personality. We need energetic people with vision.

4) When my experience and intuition tell me that the applicant is a non-white, anti-white, prostitute, infiltrator, or troll.

As it is impossible to read people’s minds, I have made mistakes but some members who felt wrongfully rejected have contacted me and convinced me about their genuineness. After all, it is easy to talk to me, I am here, and I want my people to meet, fall in love, survive, thrive. But I am not perfect, who is.

[Bernd]

Could you add a rejection reason for the “about me” section? The first time I wrote a text, it was rejected, but I did not know why, and I found other members which had very similar texts that were not rejected. I still don’t know whether I am rejected currently, because when I visit /edit-about/, I still get the message that my about section was rejected.

[Administrator]

Monetization started in November 2019, before all was free for everybody. Women pay less than men: 23€/3months, 36€/6months, 48€/12months compared to men paying 42€/3months, 63€/6months, 72€/12months. Making membership free for women only as an intermediary solution is technically not possible. Our statistics confirm that the fees are not the cause of the gender ratio disequilibrium.

Woke and serious white women looking for woke white men have no problem making this small financial contribution compared to my personal efforts by helping me cover the costs. This ‘Here I come, the white trad wife, who can actually cook, the most desired creature on the planet, roll out the red carpet and give me everything for free’ type of women is fortunately rare.

Monetization also helped to keep the prostitutes and non-white women out that had flooded this website from the beginning and took a lot of my time for operational work. The addition of the ‘About Me’ entrance gate this year has helped too improve the quality of the database.

Maybe not something to advertise, but I have given a dozen of members a 2 weeks upgrade if they asked for it. I know that many of us struggle financially and Mama WD is here to help. Benefactors, members who supported this project in some way or another, as well as the first 200 Pioneer members got an eternal membership upgrade because I am grateful and appreciate courage.

[Anonymous]

I second Dein Befreier’s suggestion to make membership free for women, at least for a time to see its effect on the gender ratio imbalance.

[Anonymous]

Ahhahaha, that’s just the problem with our movement oftentimes no? All just a bunch of know-it-alls. Well, I appreciate your response as it was completely unexpected. I assure you my criticisms were just that, criticisms. It might seem like I’m nagging, but pointing out the large soft underbelly this website shouod be a welcomed one. I declare that I make my naggings with the best intentions hahaha. I’ll gladly attempt to minimize this soft spot. I would suggest, unless data supports this to be unnecessary, that subscription for women be free. I would also like to suggest a format that made early models of OkCupid a success, with their quizes, tests, and user generated content, less the burden of storage is too much to facilitate. I would also suggest a ‘suggestion box’ ? for all the naggers like me, it can sometimes prove a useful tool of ideas! Of course, I’m completely ignorant of this sort of business and what you’ve already attempted, but we do so love to be experts in ignorance sometimes don’t we chum? Haha.

Sincerely,
Dein Befreier

[Administrator]

@DeinBefreier I hold a Swiss business diploma, and can assure you that it has proven itself to be completely useless in an anti-white world annulling most promotion tools known to classic Marketing such as SEO and advertisement.
I do request volunteer services: From YOU! As a well meaning and active members who would gladly chip in his free time to working on the website and even promoting it, YOU can help grow our (especially female!) member base by printing flyers https://wd.easytodo.in/white-men-dating-site-find-trad-wife/ at your own costs and hand them out in a public space at your own security risk.
As a future leader of our pro-white movement offering solutions instead of know-it-all nagging tirades you will certainly attract numerous trad wives to choose from and end up building a big, beautiful white family. I wish you luck!

[Anonymous]

BTW, I just did a search… My criteria was 18 to 35, not overweight (4 out of 7 boxes checked) and international. My results? 37 matches…
Unless success results are so high, how would this be worth paying for? Experimenting in picture requests since I can’t message. If that goes well then I might consider.

[Anonymous]

Pity about the arguing happening. I too have similar concerns. A small population in a dating website makes a hard deal for signing up, especially when it’s likely that the population of sex is not close to 50/50 and could be highly skewed. I assume someone went to business school or has some knowledge of business models. In order to draw in new members the sight should take another approach to bring in revenue to, at least drive the cost to members down. First and foremost, bootstrap, next, request volunteer services. There are many well meaning and active members who would gladly chip in their free time to working on the website and even promoting it, we do have successful business people in our community after all. After that, though slightly annoying, just allow advertising. Revenues from advertising are small but could be worth considering and aren’t likely to drive away any customer base. I only hold a Bachelors in Business Management so I’m no expert but that’s the least I can offer for consideration if it hasn’t been already. The website needs an overhaul and some fun elements should be included to drive up member participation and enrollment.

Anyway, for those of you who have paid, do you find it worthwhile? Would appreciate the honest input.

[Im87]

I was thinking about paying. But regarding dating. I assume most girls haven’t paid and won’t be able to respond if I msg them.

[Anonymous]

Dang I missed the fun.

[Oscar]

Yes, we won’t know if he was on a troll mission of if he was just the average zoomer entitled to his ” you owe me” culture. this kind of retard exists – i’ve met some so I wouldn’t eliminate the possibility from the outset

Anyway, he had his warholian 15 min. The pre-validation system will spare us too many of these fine people.

[Your Fav]

In all fairness to people who live in the hills, and their lovely music, jsinger may not be who he claims to be.. we don’t even know that he is White.

I think we can learn from this thread.. generalize this guys traits and the outcome. This guy basically was clear with his intentions in his first post, to undermine the site. His lack of respect gave me all the indication I needed predict what would happen next.

[Oscar]

63 dollars for 3 months. How Jewishly priced. Are you a kike or something?

Yes and a Mossad squad is already on its way, hillbilly. Your shoahtisation in 3…2… 1…

Salut, baltringue.

[Your Fav]

I didn’t see that coming at all. Lol.

[Anonymous]

Also, your not getting a picture of my face. Not after you’ve talked to me like that anyways.

Fuck this place.

[Anonymous]

How the fuck does that have anything to do with the websites pricing? OkStupid is only 20 dollars for 3 months but this Jew expects me to pay 63 for a mere 5 people in my area if that.

[Your Fav]

Does anyone else notice that the two statements “I finally find a website that I like” and “Are you a kike or something?” don’t really fit in the same thread? What impression is JSinger trying to attach to this website?

It appears to me that JSinger87 is provoking and intentionally spreading negativity rather than starting an honest discussion.

JSinger, if you really are who you present yourself to be- it’s great that you don’t want to be a debt slave. Good for you, that is a good start. Now what have you done for the White community? Where is your contribution?

[Anonymous]

63 dollars for 3 months. How Jewishly priced. Are you a kike or something? Fucking lame. And you need a credit card. You can’t just use PayPal. Not everyone has a fucking credit card and wants to be a debt slave.

[Oscar]

Not true. Tinder, Plenty Of Fish and OkCupid are all free. This website barely has any people on it to warrant it being a paid for service. 4000 people isnt enough.

Thanks for this so accurate illustration of the parasite mentality of too many so-called cyber-resistant 2.0 : you came to a project you didn’t create, you didn’t contributed to it in any way, including the totally-free parts of the site (except this epic whinning moment)

People like you are not a part of any resistance ansd still less of any solution, people like you are our main problem.

Under normal circumstances, I should have you banished for such an example of behavior just worthy of the average welfare nigger, but I think that your face publicly and perpetually crucified in all its meanness will be a better example for the edification of the masses.

Liv has invested her time, energy, and personal money to build this project. I don’t think she created it hoping to make a fortune.

the first subscribers benefit from a permanent free status, she has also granted additional free months to certain members who contributed significantly to the forums.

There is a guerilla marketing section which allows anyone to promote the site in the region where he lives and I am convinced that Liv would give young people without too much financial means this kind of bonus if they could demonstrate that they actively participated in the promotion of the site, for example on youtube channels via comments or on various social networks to make it the essential meeting point of these millions of conscious whites who seek to build healthy families and prepare for our response to the ongoing war being waged against us.

I took a look at your profile, you did NOTHING of this

Nobody here owes you anything, little spoiled brat.

Thks to @ferg , @itsnatural and @joshs to have pointed the obvious before I did.

[Your Fav]

The answer is kind of self evident isn’t it? I mean, why did you come here instead of going to those other websites?

Tinder, Plenty Of Fish and OkStupid are all owned by the same parent company Match group, which also owns match.com. Go look at OkCupids blog and its all about aclu, feminism, lgbtq and blm… are those your people? What do any of those groups have to do with perpetuating our culture and demographics? Did you know those groups openly hate Whiteness? Match group is clearly not interested in promoting or fighting for the concerns of White people.. Perhaps they are a thorn in our side.

I agree with ItsNatural. Not only do we need to dig in and fight where ever we are, but also it should be noted that this website is already fighting for us. The url has ‘White’ in the name, and for that reason alone it has already been black listed by google. To say that google hates the White-positive community, is an understatement. It’s open racism. At this point in history, if we want to have online culture, then we have to pay for it and I am happy to pay.

Also, google wont be able to stop us. This site will grow, and there will be others as well.

[ItsNatural]

Do you need everything handed to you for free? We’re at war here pretty much and trying to be happy and survive. For setting up this awesome site I am proud to pay a pittance for it. She has actually done something and it costs her precious time. In addition to that, she just had a baby. Every other site on the clear net is total crap. It’s torture to go thru all of them Leftist/race-traitoring profiles. You’ve got to dig in and really fight and be selective and something in your life and paying $18 a month is nothing. You said you have a few possilbe women in your area. Count your blessings and sacrifice a lot, let alone $18 a month.

[Anonymous]

Not true. Tinder, Plenty Of Fish and OkCupid are all free. This website barely has any people on it to warrant it being a paid for service. 4000 people isnt enough.

[Anonymous]

There is no such thing as a free lunch. You need to get over your entitlement mentality and accept that these sites don’t come for free. The price is pennies, and someone has to do the work of building the site and running its social media. Go on any other dating site, and you’ll have to pay (and/or have your data sold).

[Anonymous]

Why do I have to pay to message people? I finally find a website that I like and I have to PAY? There are so few of these websites out there. Very dissapointed because there are, a few women in my area 🙁

[Author]

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