[Hunter]

I suggest a change in direction for this website: the focus on tradition or cuckservatism—attracts primarily Christian dogmatists who already have many dating websites for themselves—should be dropped in favor of a pure eugenic (amren.com/features/2023/07/are-we-doomed/) pro-White focus = increasing the % of White people and the average quality of White people.

[Anonymous]

I don’t mean to derail the conversation by moving on with the discussion of this other topic, but I do see the need to respond to what has been said here.

Personally I find Entess’ insinuation that men sharing their own lived experiences with women is “anti-women talk” to be incredibly disrespectful.

Hunter and I both did nothing but share what we experienced when conversing with women, and the implications of our experiences – nothing else.

However, if we cannot criticize specific actions or behaviors which in our view are wrong without being portrayed as bad actors, then I don’t see a way that the relationship between the sexes can ever be fixed.

All too often I see women treating us with disrespect, and when called out on it, they place the blame on someone else – but this is no time for deflecting the blame and pointing fingers at everyone but ourselves.

If we – both men and women – can’t take rightful criticisms and improve ourselves based on them, then there is no future for us – because we will be forever stuck in our ways, ways that clearly aren’t working.

I for one am happy to take any criticism offered to me, verify whether it is indeed justified, and if it is to make changes to my behavior accordingly.
I’ve been told in the past that I may be moving things too slowly when conversing with women – so I will address this going forward – what I won’t do is sit here, call it ‘anti-men talk’, and keep doing that which isn’t working.

Because I want to improve, and I don’t see how this whole situation will end well if we don’t all have (or develop) this same desire.

[Administrator]

@Entess Our men are frustrated with women and very often have a good reason to be. Not everybody is diplomatic enough to guide a conversation constructively. Especially manly men want results right away and wonder why women cannot see what looks obvious to them. Be kind and forgiving if they ever hurt you because they feel hurt. 

[Administrator]

@Ralf Nobody likes criticism. Try to motivate women to become mesmerizing again. Tell them that their greatest power lies in their femininity. Tell them that men will love and protect sweet and loyal women they can trust. Whatever you do, avoid long texts online and bring the conversation to an anonymous video call as soon as possible. If you discover a connection, suggest an offline date in a public place. Get things moving. We have no time to waste.  

[Anonymous]

I’ve personally noticed more anti-women talk in the last few years in the far-right sphere, in various places where I’m silently judging and trying not to form my own issues in response. I think with Christians or women, the natural instinct is to escalate or dissociate when feeling cornered, unless they are already open to you or your points. I personally don’t want to become more embroiled in this with the guys here talking about it, so I’ll try to leave it there.

[Anonymous]

Hunter made some good points in his previous post, though I would like to focus on one of them in particular and share my experience.

In his post, he lamented the unwillingness of modern women to discuss the topic of religion with an open mind and consider that they may potentially be holding the wrong views.

Based on my personal experience, I would say that this isn’t limited to religion, but rather a general problem with modern women – that a lot of them are unfortunately incredibly arrogant and do not consider the thoughts and feelings of others at all.

Often times when I would criticize something these types of women said or did, even if done politely and respectfully, they would become belligerent and verbally attack me for pointing this out – i.e. they were being toxic.

And don’t even get me started on these women who simply ignore you when you say something they don’t like…

A potential reason for this behavior could be that the constant male attention which they receive inflates their egos and makes them think that they don’t need to listen to or consider anyone but themselves, though if that’s the case, then there will be a rude awakening once they get older…

Clearly, women like this aren’t marriage material as any conflict will always end up being one-sided, and these women are likely the feminist types who will want order their husbands around rather than resolve conflicts to mutual benefit, but quite unfortunately they appear to be significant in number, even within ‘our own circles’.

[Hunter]

I’ve noticed that the vast majority of women on this website are christian of some variety, and that they put that ‘faith’ (actually conditioning in the vast majority of cases… I admit this conditioning is better than neocommunist [nucom] conditioning) above being pro-White. Let me be clear, in ‘current-day’ there is no pro-White christian sect that I am aware of other than ‘Christian Identity.’ Even that sect must by necessity place biological loyalty below loyalty to ‘god’ as defined by the leaders of the sect. I find this disappointing, since I am not going to deny my WILL (the only reason I exist) and subordinate myself to an illogical fundamentally judeo-supremacist text, and the vast majority of ‘christian’ women are unwilling to discuss their religion at all. Those that do, have an extremely strong confirmation bias, tendency towards circular reasoning, and an unwillingness to consider authoritative anything that is not written in ‘their book,’ even their own experience or natural law. This means that there are effectively extremely few romantic prospects on this website. Thus far, the main benefit has been in the form of brotherhood rather than relations with the opposite sex.

[Hunter]

Good post @Tradiman, the reality is that their are far more reasons to disbelieve the ‘bible’ as the literal word of ‘god,’ or for catholics, that the ‘pope’ is the deity’s representative on Gaia. However most people want to believe. Why? They want the promised reward(s)—most importantly happy eternal life. There is also great ‘spiritual’ pain in accepting that one was wrong and that many (important) others were wrong, regardless of their intentions. To take a blunt example, a parent can have their child’s genitals mutilated to please their deity, and they can rationalize the harm done as for the greater good of the child given the promises of the deity. Or, to take a more ‘current day’ example, a parent can rationalize harm done to their child by the vax as either not caused by the vax, or as neccessary for the greater good as determined by their ‘god,’ in this case, the WHO et al.

[Tradiman]

How can those of us of Euro descent honor, or follow a religion based on a people who are openly calling for the extermination of the “white race?”
Although Christianity is more pagan than Judaic it is based on a genocidic subservience to a religious cult who wants to eradicate us.

I’ve helped someone escape cult programming. Takes lot of time and effort.

What I mean by “is more pagan:”
In my journey I discovered the Bible was basically rewritten with pagan names of deities to gain acceptance of the people. (don’t know if still have the book) majority of words (holy, Easter, the word God, word faith, grace etc, etc. and Christian holidays are pagan in origin.

As Hunter mentioned Constantine: who was looking for a way to bond together his empire he incorporated pagan ideologies and gods into judiac Christianity.

A few examples:
Christmas/Yule; those who have studied history admit if Jesus were born he had to have been born around September.

Easter:
Based off festivals to “Ēostre (Proto-Germanic: *Austrō(n)) is a West Germanic spring goddess.”

Grace: Greek Charis or plural Charites, Latin Gratia, in Greek religion, one of a group of goddesses of fertility.

Hard part can be getting through to people without them turning violent.
I’ve had more than one on verge of going berserk.
Have had some push me on why I don’t believe Isaiah chapter 7 was a prophecy of Jesus or virgin birth.
Reasoning out that Ahaz didn’t have “faith” thus the reason for a sign for ahaz to see and know.
Not something that takes place 800 years later.

It brings them face to face with Thor own cognitive dissonance, and they have a tendency to want to attack the one who took them by the hand and walked them to that point even though they asked for it.

It can get past that point without violence there’s a chance to open their eyes even further.

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[Hunter]

The simple fact that the ‘Jews’ were the one group not to be (ultimately) forced to convert (and allowed to charge interest) by the ‘universal church’ after the treason of Constantine against Western Civilization… really says it all doesn’t it? Christianity is a puppet religion for Goyim by the Jews. But I rest my case that the central appeal of Christianity is the promise of perfect and eternal life after-death simply by being a slave to the ‘biblical’ canon established by the Council of Nicaea, and especially to the Jesus-figure, and the ‘Popes’ who ruled in place of the Christ-figure… of course, many splinters of Christianity rejected the latter, yet still, the intent to tame/soften the Goyim for Jewish world domination is achieved regardless—for-example, many Christians will point out the ‘Beast 666/616 system’ and the ‘Mark of the Beast’ being forced on us by the (((central-bankers))) but this rarely leads to real action against the central-bankers since instead the focus is instead on pleasing Jesus rather than combating our mortal enemies. The passage in ‘Revelation’ thereby pacifies the Goyim by making them think that abject slavery is inevitable. It is the ultimate ‘black-pill’ if you will, ‘don’t fight, your enslavement/death is inevitable but if you are faithful Jesus will save you in the end…’ The way to counter Abrahamic religion is by focusing on how they control the Goyim through the fear of death, and the core rewards are only ‘offered’ after death. The word ‘scam’ comes to mind. Imagine being told to work 50 years for nothing but subsistence only to rewarded with a billion $ at the end. Now after 50 years we could see if the offer was true or not, chances are it was simply a way to get a motivated slave. With ‘benefits’ after-death, we cannot ever see if the offer is true or not, thus there is room for ‘faith.’ A pro-White religion needs to offer greater benefits in this life and after death to compete on the playing field as both Christianity and Communism (both descendants of Jews/Judaism). That said, there are some benefits along-side the great drawbacks of Judaism/Christianity that manifest in this life. For instance, the Kosher food laws do generally have significant health benefits as does a weekly day of rest. A good pro-White religion must take what is good and true from any source and reject what is bad and false from any source as the ancient Sassanian King Khosrow I is said to have said. Cheers!

[Tradiman]

Agree with German Pagan.

Heard preachers all my life say, “you can’t go against [gods chosen nation].” Have to support them, basically turning Christianity into a worship of Judaism, and subservient to them.

How can one use a religion based on subservience as a way to bond a pro-white nation.
Especially considering anyone who actually studies is likely to have a rude awakening. article I wrote recently:

New “testament” studied with reference to the “Old Testament” took me out of Christianity.

1. Genealogy of Matthew cross referenced with Old Testament shows wrong descendancy. Leaves some out some intentionally because of it.

2. Genealogy of Luke is different than that of Matthew.

3. If, as Christians say, Jesus had to keep all the commandments perfectly, then it also means he had to keep the first commandment to “be fruitful, and multiply, subdue the earth” yet Christianity enforces idea he was celibate.

4. Christianity claims no one can keep the “laws” without breaking them, yet there are at least 3 instances where it says others kept it perfectly. One is Luke 1:6

5. God stated he abhorred adultery, yet he was supposed to have went against his own laws and impregnated another man’s wife. (Betrothal stuff don’t work, cause they wouldn’t have been traveling alone if they weren’t already under a ketubah.)

6. Contradictory to Christianity statement, “only shedding of blood can cover sins,” Several places in the Old Testament, states BlooD IS NoT necessary. Even an ephah of flour if that was all they had was good enough. LV 5:11
A. A contrite heart was also considered satisfactory. Ps 51:17 (The sacrifice pleasing to God is a broken spirit. You will not despise a broken and humbled heart, God.)
B. States no blood shed by another could cleanse a man of his sins.

7. 8. 9…………
Then we also have the virgin birth of mithra and his crucification. And a few others.

I’ve only given a few examples.
I bought every book I could on ancient Hebrew culture to understand the standards, customs, and euphemisms of the time.
No man was supposed to take priesthood either unless he had proven he could keep his own house in order. “Husband of at least one wife.”

[Anonymous]

German Pagan made a lot of great points.

I can confidently say that every time I brought up the topic of the globalism inherent within Christianity with either Christians or their sympathizers, I have never received a response that wasn’t a form of copium, or no response at all.

Hence why I have mostly stopped arguing these topics as people tend to ignore that which doesn’t fit their existing beliefs, and seek that which affirms them (known as confirmation bias) – and we will never achieve anything productive that way.

Instead, I will continue to point these matters out to make people aware, but I won’t engage in any discussion or debate anymore, as those are mostly a waste of time, unless people are absolutely committed to finding the truth, which most of them are not.

[German Pagan]

I can support almost everything what Ralf said, also agree with the last statements of hunter. I just cannot believe, how many people who call themselves pro-white or even white patriots/nationalists still try to talk shit into honey. It´s not possible, but they try hard anyway. To the point: We are talking about a jewish religion, with the jews as God´s chosen Nation, determined to rule over all other nations. Christians are their used mass bases, they have to serve them like slaves.

Christianism prays to love your enemies, to turn the other cheek if beaten on the first one, to be born guilty, it is globalistic, it is the mother of communism (Oswald Spengler), it adores wekanoess, poorness, earth is hell and after-death will be paradise.

It teaches us, that Jesus is also his own father and the holy ghost (trinity). So Jesus in form of the holy ghost raped his mother to create himself, after she gave birth to him as a virgin! And no one explaines to me, why this kind christian god who is almighty, let criminal monsters abuse and kill innocent children or even babies.

Even one of these facts should be enough to realize, that this religion is the opposite of all, what should be our values as pro-whites! But someone knows all this and still thinks this should be his faith? Whats wrong with him/her then? Nietzsche said, you can´t be convinced to christianity, you must just be sick enough for it.

Christianity was only built as a jewish sect with the goal to defeat the roman occupaters. They coundn´t defeat the romans on the military field, so they decided to weaken them in their homeland. And with Konstantin they finally succeeded. And lateron all of europe suffered from the same story (Karl the butcher).

What we probably need is first of all, to check out, if pro-white christians just don´t know many facts about their own religion and then teach them about it. Besides teach them knowledge about their own heathen roots. Then they will have to decide where they belong. They don´t have to believe in any religion, but on the long term we cannot allow oriental globalistic religions such as Judeo-Christianism or Islam in our future pagan communities. So if someone knows all the facts but still wants to stick to his antiwhite hostile christianism faith above genetics then he/she cannot exist in the same tribe/nation/Volk. Becuase those christian elements would be the poisened seed for the future. In south africa it were also christians to hand over white power to the blacks. But a lot of them got killed with burning tires around their necks anyway…

On the long term we might also need an ethnic religion like the hindu-nationalists in india, the konfuzianism in china, the shintoism in Japan, and even the jewish/zionist religion/ideology ist based on the nation (Volk?) of Israel.
Europes´ religion of the anchestors are pagan tribes like germanic, celtic, slav, greek and roman paganism. And this paganism can of course exist in a variety of forms. Some might believe in personal gods, some might see those gods as personifications of nature powers or human characteristics…

Sorry for the long text…

[Anonymous]

At least it’s good we’re having the conversation and can continue to have it. Good to deconstruct what it is we’re supporting at the foundational level. Although I don’t think Christians appreciate their religion being deconstructed. (And neither do Jews of course nor our (cult)ure which is why we’re anonymous)

I like the phrase “empire over man’s mind” – it’s good to discuss the empire.

I wonder if it was by being under great duress that Afrikaners made Orania.

[Hunter]

Yes, supportive pro-White communities are absolutely necessary and, sadly, nearly completely absent. “I think humans are capable of amassing wisdom and feelings of metaphysical security without Christianity,” yes, I for one achieved this when I released that if I did not fear the time before my birth, why should I fear the time after my death. If ‘I’ could be once, why not twice, or thrice, ect… However, this not nearly as comforting as having faith that your invisible ‘older brother’ and ‘father’ with unlimited power, will save you if you simply obey the commands in ‘their’ book to the best of your ability. I could edit the ‘Bible’ to make it more reasonable and pro-White, however, I would have to be a ‘prophet’ to do so in order to appeal to the faithful who might appreciate the changes, and without having an existing ‘congregation’ of my own, I would lack followers. A critical mass of ‘followers’ is necessary for any organization to ‘live,’ and to live is to grow.

[Anonymous]

I just got up to speed with Jared Taylor’s recent interview about Orania, the white Afrikaner Boer and Christian settlement and folk state. It was a very good podcast with an Oranian spokesperson.

I think Christianity is possible where there is a strong ethnic consciousness in conjunction with it, but by itself, it eventually gives way to racial dissolution. The Afrikaner Boers have an exclusive ethnicity *and* language that they hold with pride. (Their Boer folk identity is something that I was trying to get across that we need in previous posts. We need nationhood(s)/people-hood(s)/exclusive cults or communities/what have you, not merely a vague/ambiguous and indifferent “white” designation, but maybe that could have stronger connotations and attributions ascribed to it if we give it them. I personally don’t want to be ultimately lumped together by this racial designation alone.)
And examples of other white Christian groups, the Amish have some things separating them from the outside world, including implicit ethnicity and cultural differences. While the Mormons have already given in to universal humanism’s influence in order to not appear racist.
Someone can correct me if I’m off and they know more about the things I mention.

Yeah, Hitler considered the religion question for his people, and he tried incorporating Christianity. It’s something else to learn from but co-opted by secular religion’s notions of evil racism. Hitler has been made the devil incarnate (yet he’s been dead, so can we move on already)

Yeah, I think the safety that Christianity guarantees, being that it is spelled out in an appealing way, puts people’s minds at ease. There are alternatives though. Personally I think humans are capable of amassing wisdom and feelings of metaphysical security without Christianity, but Christianity has structured it well enough that people don’t have to figure it out through alternate ways. And they have so much to consult when unsure – they always have an authorized canon to fall back on, with church gatherings, sermons, ministers, and community – the support is reiterated and the teachings loyally repeated (with room for some expansion and creative license). Key word here is support.

[Hunter]

To those who want to create pro-White Christianities, know that you have to do better than the Third Reich and their ‘Positive Christianity.’ I wish you good luck, for you will certainly need it… but realistically speaking, I don’t think returning to the ‘old Gods’ is an option for the vast majority of White people raised Christian either. Fundamentally, a competitor to Christianity must also offer an easy ‘way’ to happy-immortality, this was and remains Christianity’s primary appeal, and the reason it resonates so strongly among those who suffer in this life, and those who are near death.

[Anonymous]

Or we might clash like Catholicism vs Protestantism, I don’t know

[Anonymous]

I think most of us in this thread agree that we don’t have to be bound by the Bible. We don’t have to be bound by any religion, god, or morality that goes against what we find to be edifying in our hearts and minds. In this case having affection for who we are and where we come from, and who we turn into. We already don’t let the secular morality and religion in the West stop us.

Like the previous person said, the Bible contains at least one mythology from another people (Sumerians, etc), aside from the Jews. It’s not the law of the universe, it’s one or more previous peoples’ conception of the universe, whoever originated it and found it meaningful and applicable to them at the time. Parts of it may not be meaningful for everyone (or understood as intended–which makes sense to focus on the concrete).

I also think a religion would be strong if it is able to continually absorb new spiritual experiences instead of being at odds with them, so maybe some openendedness is needed. (No prophet so to speak has all the answers, which can be put within the confines of language, in my opinion.) And I’m guessing a lot of us have spiritual ideas that would clash with each other, maybe not unlike different Christian denominations.

[Tradiman]

Ended up bit long, but trying to at least touch on some of the salient points.

Good discussion.
I think the white “religion” should be one of natural concrete truth, instead of abstract truth.

English is an abstract language, faith, belief, holy are abstract terms, and misinterpretations of a concrete language, which I believe also puts us at a disadvantage against those who wish to eradicate us. To better exemplify I must use an example from ancient Hebrew site.

Quote: The Hebrew word for faith is אמונה (emunah – Strong’s #530) and is an action oriented word meaning “support”. This is important because the Western concept of faith places the action on the one you have faith in, such as “faith in God”. But, the Hebrew word אמונה places the action on the one who “supports God”. It is not a knowing that God will act, but rather I will do what I can to support God. This idea of support for the word emunah can be seen in Exodus 17:12.
But Moses’ hands grew weary; so they took a stone and put it under him, and he sat upon it, and Aaron and Hur held up his hands, one on one side, and the other on the other side; so his hands wer and the other on the other side; so his hands were steady (emunah)until the going down of the sun.

It is the support/emunah of Aaron and Hur that held of Moses’ arms, not the support/emunah of Moses. When we say “I have faith in God”, we should be thinking “I will do what I can to support God”.end quote.

So we see “faith” is an action word that in original language puts Emphasis on actions of the follower rather than actions on the deity. This is why we see those attempting to eradicate our race taking positions of power to bring to fruition that which they deem to be prophecy of their creator; because Hebrew language is an action based concrete language which places weight of responsibility on the follower to bring about that which they feel is promised to them .

A more accurate English way to state word interpreted as “faith” would be “goal, and all actions of yourself and support given to you from those close to you (your people) to achieve that goal.”
Compare it to Christianity which states “you must pray, and wait upon the lord, and he will give it to you if you are worthy.
(Whereas in hebrew it would be, “if you are worthy you will make it happen for The lord.)
Leading to a Christians disconnecting from the higher power by waiting, and expecting everything it to be handed to them “someday” if he deems you worthy.

I disagree with Christianity’s “facts”, and believe misunderstanding it can actually disconnect someone from the “divine” but if it helps someone overcome a hurdle, and they don’t push it on others I have no problem with them.

I Was raised “Christian” and went to church 2-3 times a week.

There is lot of wisdom, and history in the Bible.
Is Christianity for us, the white race?
Perhaps a better question, “is it for any who seek truth with reason?” It is stated in Old Testament, “come. Let us reason together:” which to me states we should use reason and logic to find the truth, as it is also written, “stand ye and the crossroads, and consider the old paths and walk ye therein.” BUT one need learn And UnderStand them by serious consideration.
Only by truly seeking will one know.

Experiences have taught me there is something we don’t understand.
(I am not trying to challenge the Gods/The Divine/Spirit or however one chooses to recognize such.)

With that said:
Why I no longer follow Christianity is because of the Old Testament. (Modern Christians don’t even follow the New Testament or they wouldn’t be getting interest loans, and we wouldn’t need a welfare system…) Also the virgin, resurrection thing is much older than Christianity. One is Mithras born of virgin, 12 disciples (12 main signs of zodiac) and died on a cross.

If Christianity was the fulfillment of the Old Testament, it should prove the New Testament, but it doesn’t.
In the Old Testament it is written more than once that “no man may die to forgive sins of another, as each is responsible for his own.”

Human sacrifice was forbidden.

Also Old Testament gives other examples besides the shedding of blood for forgiveness: ephah of flour; contrite heart etc.

Is also written “each man should seek his own salvation with “”fear (fear being misinterpretation)”” Which to me states it may not be same path for each.

One experience I will share.
I stood and watched a tornado forming over me.
I wasn’t afraid. I was confident in myself. I watched to see which way it would go.
When it kept coming straight for me I thought “I’ll run north” instant I thought it the funnel moved to block me.
“I’ll run south” same thing happened.

I realized there was no running to avoid it. While standing there, with trees bowing form force of the wind, limbs breaking, and it about 20 feet a time I let go, and thought, “Creator, If you want me I won’t run from you. I’m here. I’m ready to go, if you want to take me.”
The second I projected that thought the wind ceased and the tornado literally went into reverse. I stood for a while in pouring rain thinking about it. It was a bit of an awakening.
To this day it still amazes me.

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[Anonymous]

If we compromise our views for the sake of groups opposed to us, then we have nothing left to fight for.

This is exactly how “conservative” parties across the west have been in a process of slow but steady surrender over the past several decades.

What would be the difference between giving into the globalism inherent in Christianity and giving into the globalism of current European governments?

Adopting this attitude would mean that we’ve already surrendered to our extinction.

With regads to your point on Christianity and its changing views on social issues, I would argue that this is an argument against working with Christians, as it is evidence of their unreliability.

What would be the point in gaining their temporary assistance, only for them to stab us in the back later on?
The enemy in front of you is easier to deal with than the one behind your back.

[Anonymous]

In that case, we don’t have to call it an ethnoreligion, if doing so will promote infighting, right? And yet, it’s still an identity we can cultivate and turn into something greater and higher as an ideal. And incorporate it into everything. Like how LGBT has merged with some Christian churches, a pro-white attitude can be formally taken up by any institution receptive to it, once it has zeal behind it.
I mean, Christianity used to be anti-LGBT.
Maybe the unity to aim for is this. And then from there, I’m not sure.

Do the Christians here believe in the primacy of their religion for white people? Christianity is at least softer than Islam, and it seems like one of the tenets we have attached to white culture is “freedom of religion.”

I think even before converting Christianity, the Romans and the Greeks were moving more towards universalism (and humanism) in their philosophy.

[Anonymous]

I agree completely.

With regard to the thoughts you shared, I think I can give you a well rounded perspective on it as I myself grew up Christian and have interacted with devout Christians extensively for a number of years.

An important thing to note about Christianity is that it is a dogmatic religion which is incredibly intolerant toward opposing belief systems, even within its own denominations.

On many occasions I have witnessed flame wars between Catholics and Protestants over some minor differences within their respective belief systems, accusations of one or the other being the work of the devil, etc. and let’s not forget the greater picture and the literal wars which have been fought over such trivial matters.

Contrast that with Roman pagans in ancient times who reportedly frequently incorporated beliefs of other religions within that of their own…

Perhaps I could answer your question with a question?
Do you think that the intolerant religion of Islam would be able to be integrated within European civilization?
And how would Christianity differ from that, other than perhaps in its emphasis on weakness and submission rather than strength and subjugation as in Islam?

Add to this the fact that it is a globalist religion which ignores basic biological distinctions between the races, and what could you end up with that is positive for European peoples as a whole?

I’m happy to entertain a different perspective on this and consider arguments to the contrary, but this is the conclusion I have arrived at after considering the evidence of my experiences both in person and online.

A common belief system would likely be of great benefit to unite our people as you said, but I’m afraid that Christianity and the concept of unity are opposites – one must only look at the many schisms within this religion for evidence of this.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I figured many of us were arriving at the same or similar conclusions, and it’s good to discuss and wrap our minds around them more. And an “is anyone else seeing what I’m seeing” kind of thing.

When it comes to Christians, is it possible to “have our cake and eat it too”? Inclusiveness as far as the religions whites are already attached to but to recognize that they aren’t ethnoreligions and won’t safeguard our people. They’ve lost political stature and influence and have become more akin to personal beliefs. Can Christians recognize that?

They might be able to gain political influence as white Christians, but times have changed, and whites want more spiritual freedom and variety now. So some creed has to unite everyone. That seems like something that could gain momentum. And a cult following.

[Anonymous]

Interestingly, I have also arrived at Entess’ conclusions on the jewish ethno-religion independently, and I am unlikely to be the only one who has done so.

Since she has delivered well worded, concise remarks on it, I do not need to reiterate anything she has stated.

Though I think it is important to add that their ethnic focus being a significant benefit isn’t mere theory, but their very survival as such a small group over such an extended period of time is evidence of the efficacy of their social order, in which their ethno-religion clearly plays a major part.

[Anonymous]

Gonzalo’s points from early on in the thread are well thought out conclusions which I have seen multiple different men (myself included) arrive at independently, this being one indication that we may be close to the truth.

When confronting Christians on this matter, as I have done on numerous occasions, I have yet to hear a well thought out retort against any of the points mentioned.

Based on all this, it seems apparent to me that these responses we’re getting from them are largely based on instinct rather than reason.

And this is no surprise considering that often times these people’s family, friends, perhaps even spouse will also be Christian, hence requiring them to risk being ostracized by everyone they have ever known and loved for the sake of the (potential) truth.

A strong character willing to do this is extremely rare to find in my experience, so it is expected that most would simply “kill the messenger” and attack the one bringing them these arguments, rather than introspect and consider them genuinely.

[Anonymous]

I can’t help but say more about LGBT’s coalition of sexual and gender identities. They have made it into such a complex yet simple creed with their rainbow flag at the helm… I was trying to look up what “aceflux” means, from what someone was describing himself as along with other sexual/romantic things, and I came across their wiki, and just to see the intense delineation of every sexual/romantic/gender possibility under the sun with its own flag(s) and symbol, it’s just like, wow. They are passionate about lgbtq+ to say the least. It’s that sort of passion and dedication that creates a belief system like what LGBT+ has. Belief system, cult, and religion have overlap, so this is relevant I think. White people also need to make use of symbology like they do, be it a rainbow, a fish, swastika, etc. But the rainbow was a good (and very unfair) marketing ploy of theirs! What a trademark!

[Anonymous]

I also liked what Gonzalo had to say at the beginning of this thread. I wonder where he is on this now.

[Anonymous]

I’ve noticed Christian churches being maybe the most visible in their pro-diversity, pro-inclusiveness, pro-LGBT depiction of themselves, so you’re right, it’s not exactly a religion that cares about white community and fellowship. I personally would like to be a part of something that just uplifts white people, or my kind of people. That is generally the purpose of religion, to uplift and help bring fulfillment. And as I said, the terms we use to describe ourselves and the meaning we impart to them are imperative.

[Hunter]

Christianity post-WW2 has been almost nothing but a paralytic cancer stopping Whites from resting our own extermination… Constantine’s ‘conversion’ to Christianity was a disaster for Western Civilization that we have never recovered from. Christianity is THE major obstacle in the way of the pro-White cause. Perhaps with drastic reforms pro-White Christianities could be created, but only Church leaders can undertake this difficult task. Identifying as a ‘Heathen’ is essentially like calling yourself a ‘Gentile/Goy’ …it is idiotic. Better to identify yourself as the follower of a specific God/dess or spiritual leader e.g. Danann, Odinist, Thorian, Freyjan, Rhean, Zeusian, Aphroditean, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Taoist, Jeffersonian, Hitlerian ect…

[Anonymous]

I’m sure others have thought of this, but Jews make a good modern-day example for comparison, in that their religion is their ethnicity (generally), and their ethnicity is their religion. And their religion is their politics, so it seems like they don’t have separation of church and state.

They can still have freedom of spirituality, at least to be an atheistic Jew, a Jewish Buddhist, an agnostic Jew, etc, except for some paths off-limits to them that are in competition/opposition to Jews as a people, like Christianity and Islam. Judaism seems like a sophisticated form/outgrowth of what was originally patrilineal ancestor worship, without me knowing the details of Judaism.
With religion as race, or some form of exclusivity, there is enculturated in-group preference for race, instead of the opposite which we have now. So my tl;dr is that it seems like religion has to be synonymous with race, because how we identify and define ourselves is very important.

Our identity should be held with pride, depth, and meaning – which is a vital human urge for self-confidence and self-esteem that we’ve lost as a people(s). Consider that “pride month” is just about to start in the US – LGBT’s collection of sexual and gender identities supersede any other identity, with white and European peoplehood being lowest on the totem pole – it’s the most disregarded totem.

[Sudoku]

Just to throw something different into the ring, I was raised strict baptist so grew up with only christianity (and a very specific version of it). I don’t consider myself christian now, as I don’t believe the ‘church’ is christian. When I actually sat down and read the Bible as an atheist (I went completely anti-religion in my teens/early 20s), I realised a lot (most) of what I was taught in churches wasn’t what the Bible said. I then studied other religions and found a lot more agreement between them.

I’m now of the opinion that different religions are there to teach different lessons in life, and to help direct humans in different ways at different points in our history. I don’t think you’re supposed to fixate on just one dogmatically. But take the values and lessons from each and form your own opinions based on those. In the same way that I don’t just re-read the same book over and over, I no longer follow a single religion or philosophy.

I appreciate that’s likely ‘fence sitting’ to the max and other people won’t share my opinion. It’s just what I’ve found to be useful in my own life.

* For the record, I did find that the Bible is much closer to CI than mainstream church doctrine.

[Ceochan]

Just a thought, and I do not mean to offend any Christians. BUT in my opinion: Christians originated with the jews. Jesus was jewish, and early Christians sort of adjusted jewish practices to their needs. I follow the Celtic Goddesses because I am of Celtic decent. I follow the traditions and faith of my mother land. I did not come from the middle east. This makes sense to me. However that is not the only way to live…

[Hunter]

Zoroastrianism would certainly be better than Christianity if you’re looking for a surviving ancient monotheist* religion to follow.

[German Pagan]

For english please use google translator

Rasse und Gestalt : unsere Identität von Dr. Tomislav Sunic

Weisser Selbsthass; Christliche Wurzeln

Unser genetisches Erbe ist der Hauptteil unserer Identität insoweit es eine gute geistige Richtung hält. Schöne weiße Körper stehen keinesfalls für einen guten Charakter. Nur der Rassengeist kann der Identität eines Volkes oder eines Mannes die endgültige Ausweiskarte verschaffen. Wenn die wahrscheinlichen Unruhen morgen beginnen und auch ein möglicher Zusammenbruch des heutigen Systems stattfindet – und dies kann nicht mehr ausgeschlossen werden – werden die Grenzlinien zwischen Freund und Feind durchaus nicht völlig klar sein. Wir sollten bereit sein, uns zahlreichen Feinden unserer rassischen Art entgegenzustellen. Deshalb sollte unser Hauptziel sein, diejenigen weißen Individuen zu entlarven, die ihr weißes Äußeres, ihre rassische Identität als ein Hobby, als Zeitvertrieb, als modischer Trend oder als Geldgeschäft benutzen, und uns damit als dumm und als öffentliche Bedrohung darstellen. Unser Ziel muß es sein, diese verderblichen Weißen, die ihre europäische Identität in einer kriminellen Weise ausnutzen wollen, zu meiden. Unser Ziel muß sein, unseren Rassenstolz zu bejahen, aber in erster Linie, wie unsere Vorfahren dies taten, unseren Sinn für das Tragische zu beleben. Nur auf diese Weise können wir weiterhin unseren faustischen Kampf weiterführen, unabhängig von der Tatsache, wie viele von uns auf dem Schlachtfeld bleiben werden.

Die Ursachen des massiven Selbsthasses bei den breiten Schichten der weißen Bevölkerung in Amerika und Europa können direkt zum Christentum und seinen säkularen Ablegern zurückverfolgt werden. Also: die christliche Gleichheitslehre mit seinen heutigen Ablegern im Liberalismus und Marxismus ist die Hauptursache des sogenannten Antirassismus und Selbsthasses sowie der heutigen Mischlings-Multikultigesellschaft. Es ist nutzlos, irgendwelches Rassenbewußtsein oder Volksbewußtsein zu beleben und uns gegen massive Einwanderung der Nichteuropäer zu wehren, ohne zunächst das Erbe des Christentums zu bekämpfen und zu entfernen. Es ist auch sinnlos, gegen Marxismus oder Liberalismus und Multikulturalismis den Kampf zu führen, ohne ihre anthropologischen Wurzeln des Christentums zu beseitigen.

Der judeo-christliche Monotheismus ist unser Hauptfeind!

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«Das Christentum, aus jüdischer Wurzel und nur verständlich als Gewächs dieses Bodens, stellt die Gegenbewegung gegen jede Moral der Züchtung, der Rasse, des Privilegiums dar.» (Nietzsche)

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Jesus-Zitate in der Bibel: “Wer Vater und Mutter mehr liebet denn mich, der ist meiner nicht wert.” (Matthäus 10,37). Und um es klarer zu formulieren: “Und wer verläßt Häuser oder Brüder oder Schwestern oder Vater oder Mutter oder Weib oder Kinder oder Äcker, um meines Namens willen, der wird’s hundertfältig nehmen und das ewige Leben erheben.” (Matthäus 19,29).

Jesus spricht offen aus: “Ihr sollt nicht wähnen, daß ich gekommen sei, Frieden zu senden, auf der Erde; ich bin nicht gekommen, Frieden zu bringen, sondern das Schwert. Denn ich bin gekommen, den Menschen zu erregen wider seinen Vater und die Tochter wider ihre Mutter und die Schwiegertochter wider die Schwiegermutter. Und des Menschen Feinde werden seine Hausgenossen sein” (Matthäus 10,34-36).

Oder an einer anderen Stelle: “Meinet ihr, daß ich gekommen bin, Frieden zu bringen auf Erden? Ich sage: Nein, sondern Zwietracht. Denn von nun an werden fünf in einem Hause uneins sein; drei wieder zwei, und zwei wieder drei.” (Lukas 12,51-52).

Aristides von Mysien schreibt im 2. Jh.n.d.Ztr. folgendes: “Dagegen sind sie geschickt, Häuser zu untergraben und Familien in Verwirrung zu bringen, indem sie ein Familienmitglied gegen das andere hetzen und sich der Leitung der häuslichen Angelegenheiten bemächtigen.”

Das Prinzip dieser Strategie ist so einfach wie genial und böse. Die Strategie mag zwar uralt sein, aber klappte 1968 perfekt. Was geschah damals? Die Kinder wurden gegen die Elterngeneration aufgehetzt, es wurden Familien zerstört und es wurde dadurch eine allgemein marxistische Gesinnung in der Gesellschaft, vor allem in Politiker- und Intellektuellenkreisen etabliert. Die Auswirkungen sieht man heute noch. Um eine neue Mentalität zu etablieren, müssen die Zielpersonen aus ihrem Umfeld herausgelöst werden. Dieses Umfeld bezieht sich nicht nur auf die elementarste Zelle eines Volkes, sondern auch auf Volk und Rasse. So haben die Kirchen Europas Geld für Kinder in Afrika, Asien, Südamerika, aber kein Geld für hiesige. Warum? Die Not der einen ist größer. Darum die Nächstenliebe und der Verdienst bei Hilfe ebenso. So rechnet der Christ. Darum werden Ausländer von der Kirche gefördert. Die Caritas unterstützt und berät die Ausländer in rechtlichen Fragen, wenn sie “diskriminiert” wurden. Pfarrer fördern die Ansiedlung von Ausländern. Von diesem Standpunkt aus wuchert der Gleichheitswahn des Christentums in die Köpfe der Menschen.

[Hunter]

I think the Lord of the Rings books and movies could almost be a sufficient basis of a pro-White Western religion. The events in the movies could even be placed into the distant past before the end of the last Ice Age. It is a very valid question to ask what make the ‘Bible’ less fictional than the ‘Lord of the Rings.’ Perhaps Tolkien was a prophet revealing the future metaphorically and the distant past literally. Who can prove he was not?

[Hunter]

The Origins of Christianity, part 9

The Origins of Christianity, part 10

The Origins of Christianity, part 13

[Hunter]

Zoroastrianism forms the theological basis of Christianity. Christianity’s foundation is Judaism mixed with Zoroastrianism, and the faith was intended primarily for non-Jewish sheeple. History bares testament to this, as all non-Christian (and often non-Catholic) faiths were eliminated among European peoples, yet the Jews were often permitted to continue practicing Judaism.

[Hunter]

Some Textual Sources for an Aryan Buddha

[Anonymous]

Only a True White can be a True Christian. Gods covenant only covered a specific people. All other peoples have been deceived just like our folk by our eternal enemy. What is called a Jew today is a mixed people that mixed with our ancestors and have since tried to usurp our inheritance. It is proven %100 that the northern tribes of Israel migrated into Europe and our now the peoples of France Germany Britain etc. Even the Romans and Greeks originally descended from the same people group that became Israelites. Jesus said he came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel and all of his apostles marched straight into Europe and the surrounding territories only. It wasnt a foreign faith or a foreign God, its the God of their fathers. I would recommend studying our Scripture passed down from our ancestors. Read it yourself and you’ll find that these insane interpretations made by the so called churches are not even close to any truth. We all know that our eternal enemy has taken hold of every institution weve ever had so why wouldnt you study these things for yourself instead of taking their word for it.
Scripture doesnt tell us to be a cuck for other peoples, in most cases it advocates disdain for others like Jesus calling the woman a dog because she wasnt us.
Churches use biblical instruction like love thy neighbor to trick us into accepting other peoples. In truth that is a command on how we should treat each other within our own people only.

[Anonymous]

The aliens you speak of are fallen angels. Look into the book of Enoch.

[palomcalo]

What about the stars who go on talking about how they sold their souls, like Bob Dylan? Or the interview where Nicki Minaj talks about her alter ego Roman being evil, that she wants him to leave, but “people have brought him out, people conjured him up, now he won’t leave.”? Is that just crazy-talk?

This is not “crazy-talk”. I have experienced it for myself for years (telepathic communications, visions, having my motor neurons moved, talking through my vocal chords), have met many others experiencing the same, and the concept of “demonic possession” has been found in folklore across the world for centuries; there are also too many examples of people “channelling” that you can find online for this not to be real. This, however, does not prove “God”, “Satan” nor “Christianity”. A more likely explanation is that there are extra-terrestrials/”aliens” out there with the technology available to remotely see us and remotely interface with the electric fields of our brains/nervous system.

The beings interacting with me are indeed generally evil liars, but they have also told me that the Jews are indeed their chosen people and that Judeo-Christianity is a scam to make a pacifist, guilty, enemy-loving slave class to serve their Jewish (and ultimately alien) masters. All evidence in Christian behaviour indicates this to be true, and I think they may have told the truth on this point.

[Hunter]

First of all, I want to state that it is extremely foolish to refer to oneself as pagan or heathen. You mind as well refer to yourself as a goy. I think @Gonzalo gets to the heart of the matter in saying that Christianity puts faith above ‘blood’ or rather, genetics, as we now know. But since we are not considering attempting to do away with religion entirely (impossible), what is best for the White Cause is ultimately a religion that unifies faith and ‘blood’/genetics—promoting eugenic reproduction. A faith in ‘pure blood’ so to speak—Zoroastrianism had elements of this (Parent-Child and Sibling-Sibling sex/reproduction was sacred) but was still a universalist religion. I’m not sure any currently existing ‘religion’ is the best for the White Cause. However, Christianity would require a radical reformation along the lines of ‘Positive Christianity’ in the Third Reich to aid the White Cause. As far as major religions go, Buddhism is the most amenable to the pro-White movement. At the very least, Jewish Supremacy is not central to the Buddhist narrative.

[suprematist_Bookworm]

Hi to everyone,
I am joining this forum as a Christian, I hope I am welcome here. I want to add my two cents to the topic and also have a question for the heathens.
I am also a Christian Identitarian, and to me, everything fell into place, once I heard about the theory. Satanism and talmudism are really close to eacht other, if you study their practices. Also it explains while you can find satanic symbolism all throughout the entertainment industry. Why is that, if (((they))) own everything? And why be satanic, if there is no God? What’s the point? Why mock Christ and God if they don’t exist?
What about the stars who go on talking about how they sold their souls, like Bob Dylan? Or the interview where Nicki Minaj talks about her alter ego Roman being evil, that she wants him to leave, but “people have brought him out, people conjured him up, now he won’t leave.”? Is that just crazy-talk?
To the claim made above, that Christianity is not race aware, I would like to point out to you the story of the tower of babel! All men of the earth united to build a tower that reaches heaven, which made God fear that men would then become too proud and arrogant, so he confused their speach, creating different languages! So God is clearly against race mixing. Besides, there is an abundance of biblical lines that say you should not marry a daughter of folk x, and that not even after 10 generations the mixed shall be called part of ones own race.
Lastly I want to know from the heathens: What is your explanation for the creation of the earth and of life? Do you believe in evolution? I can’t believe in it any more, but I am open for other concepts than creation, if you have any, I haven’t found an explanation from heathens to that topic yet, and I am really wondering, what you believe?
To answer the question of this thread, Christianity is the only way for us in my opinion. It doesn’t have to be this watered-down soyboy religion the zog-controlled roman-catholic church has turned it into. And it is not supposed to be.

[Anonymous]

That’s a good question. I would say the answer is both yes and no. In the current situation we find ourselves in absolutely yes, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” However, if we think to the better days ahead when we are finally free, the answer is no. It is human nature to have quarrels of one nature or another. With no enemy to unite us I believe it would only be a matter of time before we began to attack each other. That being said, I do think we could exist within different national borders, just not all together within the same nations.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Tony.
The Odinic Rite, as I understand, is a way of life, a discipline of living out the Nine Noble Virtues and Charges. I find it quite interesting that there are nine fruits of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the Christian book, and they are also to define our lives.
I appreciate your accessment of church history and your views, but I have a more mystical approach and find no place for the Roman catholic or Orthodox hierarchies except for historical sense.
My primary question for you is, instead of dividing White brothers, could Odinism and Christianity stand together? Why is the question, “Heathenism or Christianity”?
I know very little about the Odinist Rite, but I am and will be examining it further. I believe in absolute truth. Wherever I find it.

[Anonymous]

I have not spent much time studying folk religion so I will not touch on that aspect of this discussion, however I would like to submit my opinion on christianity.

First, I think it is very important to separate a religions core from its branches. Many of the issues I have heard discussed hear and elsewear, the afterlife, inherited guilt, lack of racial awareness are not a symptom of Christianity at its core but corrupted versions of it. After the great splitting of the church in 1045 bad has gone to worse. Many of these unappealing ideas come from the western school of thought and have become increasingly farther from the truth with each new denomination, Protestantism started to stray very far from biblical Accuracy. I will give some examples where the eastern sects of Christianity, namely orthodoxy, offer in my opinion adequate solutions.

The concept of inherited guilt is not believed. We are all judged by our actions. We inherit the fallen nature of humanity, death, however we are not born destined for hell unless mediated by Christ as this in the west believe. Heaven and hell are states of being more than places. When we do what is right and honorable we are participating in heaven, and when we do the opposite, hell. It’s been said that heaven and Hell, in regards to the afterlife, are the same place, they are both in the presence of God, however, the experience of that presence is different, for those who rejected, pain and suffering, and for those who believed and followed great joy and love.

In regards to the comments made about white on white war for the sake of different interpretations, this is not a Christian idea, but a deviance carried out by misled zealots or corrupt leaders.

As far as race is concerned, the notion that the modern day jew is the “chosen people of God” is nowhere in the Bible, at most they are a portion of Israel, and at least completely separate. (The specifics I have not been able to come to a definitive answer yet, it is undoubtable that ancient Israel was white, but in regards to the specifics of the Jews in relation to it there are many theories, the two I’ve found most convincing personally is Jews are Judah or Jews are Edomites theory.) The Bible clearly denounces the modern jew, Revolution 2:9 is a good one but there are many others, there was actually a caller on the Nick Fuentes-Alex Jones debate that brought some more up if anybody is interested in better explanation. Race in general is not central to the Christian, as race is not the highest authority but Christ, however, God has gifted us with race and definitely wants the races to stay separate as far as procreation is concerned, therefor we may place race higher than almost anything in our personal values, but when it is placed above Christ we fall into heresies and ruin. Most christians simply are unaware of the significance of race due to societal programming which is a major factor in this general acceptance of diversity, race mixing, ect. However, these are not practices taught in the Bible. The main reason for acceptance of other races, and this touches on the love your enemy, turn the other cheek point made earlier, is that our mission on earth is to spread Edon, paradise. Other races are part of creation and are therefor under our charge to take care of, just like any animal if you really want to simplify it. And we can allow them in our ranks because we become “a new nation” under Christ. This doesn’t mean a diverse nation or one world government nation, but we are all United under Christ.

I hope this was of some use, It is difficult to explain an entire religion in a setting like this, if anybody has any questions are would like to correct me on an error I may have made please feel free:

[Anonymous]

Thank you Gonzalo, your post laid out a lot of particulars about “christianity” that I must agree with, that is if one is referring to the post/pop “christianity” that we see today, and past generations have seen in their day. I do not want to delve into the particulars of my own thoughts and beliefs with the exception of saying that I understand from the christian book that this earth is eternal and that what is destroyed is the system, or age, that is corrupt, and a new pure age is ordered. The natural and spiritual amalgamated, so that victory over the corrupt is realized, even in the midst of battle. I see this as good news for the Aryan White race, if the teachings of the christian identity movement hold any truth. The God of the book is sovereign, and His doings are perfect. We should not confuse religion (romanism, protestantism, etc.) with truth.

[Anonymous]

One big issue with christianity, no matter how much its been altered to be palatable to European folk (see catholicism, protestantism, etc.) is that it always ends up putting faith above blood. That per se is enough reason to know that it will eventually fail as a folk religion, and christians reading this, know that when you show preference for race rather than faith you’re being bad christians (which is a good thing in my opinion).
Second, the original virtues of christianity are all about weakness: renunciation, submission, poverty, etc. and as such the tendency of communities guided by those principles will be towards them, not their overcoming. Christianity also sets a hard limit between heavens and earth, making this world evil, sinful and temporal, which doesn’t really help with promoting reverence towards it, and its preservation. This also makes the realms of death completely veiled from the earthly point of view, hiding it behind a veil of doubts and fear. The utter fear of death that results from a perpetual insecurity about this supposed eternal afterlife, of reward or punishment, promotes a cowardly life, and a blind race to prolong the life beyond its natural course in search of reassurance after reassurance that you’ll end in the afterlife you want (and even like that, by ancient standards I think 99% of modern christians would end up in their underworld).
Strength, perseverance, honesty, loyalty, etc. were later additions through cultural assimilation that were already mainstream virtues over all of Europe, so christianity never really added a thing to their ethos. The cult of ancestors, and the multidimensional manifestation of the gods in society, nature, etc. promotes respect and preservation of the land which is the foundation of a healthy society. Also as there’s no life/afterlife hard division, the ancestors just living another life ad infinium and eventually coming back (different components of the soul/spirit coming back to your family, others going to the higher spheres, the lesser aspects of the soul disappearing), society as a whole is more at peace with the concept of death, even looking towards a “good death”, you avoid problems such as artificial life prolongation, overpopulation and such.
Call me biased but I was a hardcore catholic till my 18-20s and now that I’ve delved deep into Hellenic philosophy, folkish religions, etc. I can say I’ve found my way, in line with my personal and political points of view.

[JLazlo]

This response may be a little bit more farther future than what the title is asking, but here we go. My vision for what is best is that there will be numerous white nations. They will have a diversity of political and social systems. Some would be libertarian. Some would be monarchies. Some would be democracies. Some would allow homosexuals and some would not. Some would be very strict about “how white” are their citizens and some not so strict. Some would be Christian and some would be Heathen. I think this is the best way forward. Having a variety of systems will allow for Darwinian selection that the better systems thrive and also to prevent having “all eggs in one basket” as it were.

[German Pagan]

Christianity or Heathendom: What is Best for the White Cause?

A really excellent text!!!

Unfortunately I couldn´t put a comment there where it says “0 comments”…

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