[deckenfarbe]

Hi Hunter,

I just read your statement about “tradition”. In some sense, you are right. But I think we are collecting new scientific evidence for why many traditions are a good thing, and we should not be too shy to point out that, due to <insert scientific argument>, we should do <xyz>, which was already the norm for our forebears in <bygone era>.

[Hunter]

Ah~ and @deckenfarbe as for ‘Is(is)RaEL’ you’re right, I’d prefer to deport the Jews to Black Africa, but deporting Jews to their ‘holy land’ and containing them there is also an option, and one that Hitler favoured at one time.

[Hunter]

@Ozarker hmm, well to begin with, Hitler lost… so he must have been wrong on some issues, yes? Also, his one size fits all model of society doesn’t work for me, since one-size does not fit all. Hitler was, for his time, largely right on racial issues (although, he could have just drafted the non-pure Aryans and sent them to the front lines), everything else is very debatable from a pro-White point of view. The concept of a labor based currency was interesting for the time.

@deckenfarbe obviously, I agree with you that a good family man cannot be a drunkard gambling addict. However, it is unclear why the government should be concerned with this besides perhaps providing incentives not to be a drunkard gambling addict. Personally, I prefer the government to offer ‘carrots’ instead of sticks as much as possible… if the government must intervene at all.

[Ozarker]

what issues was Hitler wrong on?

[deckenfarbe]

I’m a man, and I’m not exactly with you: A man does not only need to have good genes, but the rest of him needs to be conductive of having a good family, too. Ie, no drunkard who regularly beats up his family and gambles away all the money etc. Also, “deporting Jews to Judea” was and is a fallacy that will, and does, come back to bite us severely. If they get their “Erez Israel”, they’ll have almost unlimited access energy, control vital waterways and also land routes, and can really blackmail the rest of the world into submission. Which would be pretty much the end of mankind, except as in the form of “livestock”, since they also need slaves. I’m only writing this part because you characterized this idea as a “solution”, which I think it isn’t.

[Hunter]

So the forums seem to be broken for me on Brave browser, I can’t see anything past the first page!

[Hunter]

@deckenfarbe, as a libertarian, with a true liberal heart, I recognize that AH was a tyrant, however, he would have preserved, and perhaps even elevated through eugenics, the Aryan subspecies. Stalin by contrast, was at best merely a tyrant. My preferred solution to the Jews, is deportation to their chosen land, what was called Judea by the Romans before the Jews foolishly revolted, and what the Jews now call, ‘Israel.’ So, I support the current state of Israel for that purpose alone. Deportation to nigerlands in Africa is another solution, then the Jews can be intimate with their chosen ‘orcs.’ I also support this solution for all ‘anti-racists.’ So may it be.

[deckenfarbe]

As far as I understand things, he greatly underestimated the danger emanating from the Jews. But I was also quite surprised when I recently heard that he had 140 Jewish generals in the army, who actually contributed to us not losing the war much earlier. About extermination, I think yes, this isn’t our standard way of handling things, but there are some risks where I have no better idea, Jews being one of them, as they want to exterminate us, and have wanted to exterminate us since at least 150 years now, since even well before Bismarck unified Germany. They actually want to exterminate many more people, with numbers varying between around 500 million and up to around six billion, using the muslims as their henchmen. Since they can make and quite successfully pursue such plans over centuries, I am at a loss as to how else we can defend against them. I have quite mixed feelings about AH.

[Hunter]

Many girls (i.e. virgins under 25), women, and single-mothers on this site, say they are into strict gender roles and looking for a ‘traditional’ and/or ‘strong’ man. Well, OK, then submit. Submission to men is the number one tradition of all major traditional cultures, and a man is only defined as ‘strong’ by women if women submit to him. If you are a ‘traditional woman,’ it is not your role to define what a man should believe, only to obey. Ask your father to fulfill his role to find you a husband, and then submit to him and obey him—or at least, find a White pro-White man that meets your realistic physical requirements and then submit to him and obey him—that is what has been traditional in major cultures for thousands of years. For men, it was traditional for his mother and close female relatives to offer him women for marriage. I would hazard that no girl or woman on this site is actually ‘traditional,’ it is virtually impossible in the contemporary West. I will again emphasize that the focus on tradition is a weakness of the pro-White movement. If we must look at tradition, we should look at revolutionary tradition, since only revolution will ultimately bring victory.

[Hunter]

Hitler was an elected tyrant, but he would have preserved the Aryan subspecies. That makes him superior to all other tyrants. Stalin was just a regular tyrant. Biden and Trudeau are anti-Aryan puppet-tyrants. It matters not if a tyrant was elected legitimately (disqualifies Biden most certainly) or not. Tyranny is actually the norm in human history. My life has been defined by tyranny. My father is a cowardly pro-jew puppet-tyrant. He’s a puppet since 99% of his tyranny is derived from the jewish bible. Amusingly, he even ignores all criticism of the ‘pharisees,’ the conservative jewish establishment in the ‘new testament.’ The bible is a meta-narrative constructed by theocratic jews dreaming of world domination, it matters not that it contains some truth. A lie is often more effective the (bigger and) more truth it contains and the harder it is to disprove. Current judaism is 99% descended from the ‘pharisees.’ The ‘old testament’ is their foundational text, however, various rabbinical traditions supersede this, allowing for many (evil) flavors of judaism. The ‘new testament’ was initially an expansion of the old, intended for jews, however, the jewish establishment rejected this attempted reformation. Due this, the attention of the ‘new testament’ then changed to converting (subjugating) the goyim. The slave-morality and fantastical rewards promised after death appealed to the enslaved masses of the Roman Empire. Even so, ‘christians’ were definitely a minority when Constantine ‘converted.’ However, the jewish elite in Rome had gained too much power, and perhaps like Trump, Constantine was directed down the path of his handlers. With Constantine’s conversion the jewish conquest of the West was half-complete. The West has never recovered from Constantine’s ‘conversion,’ and the consequences thereof… the primary effect of ‘christianity’ was the pacification of the goyim, making them easy conquest targets for predatory judaism… curiously, this is also the primary effect of communism as formulated by Marx. Now, of course, the descendants of the ‘pharisees’ control at least 90% of the world’s monetary system, and this allows them to enact their anti-Aryan anti-liberty death-enslavement policies upon most of the planet. Joy to the world. In certain situations, tyranny of a kind is necessary for survival. Hitler went beyond the sort necessary, but looking back, he was still the best hope for the survival of the Aryan subspecies. The form of tyranny nature most loves, however, is the subjugation of woman to man. This is the only tyranny that is truly loved, and it is only through this tyranny that a woman can love a man that is not her own son. To the extent, and ease, with which a woman has the choice to not be with you, to leave you, she will despise you. Consider the ‘bible,’ the ‘father’ demands everything: heart, mind, and soul. Yet millions obey. So to, a man must demand from a woman, and she must submit, and only in doing so will she love one who is not her child. Women are fundamentally paradoxical in nature compared to men, there is a far greater divide between heart and mind. Her heart wants to be owned but her mind wants to be free, a tragedy.

[Hunter]

I find most discussion on the forums here to be purely abstraction, and I am easily drawn into it. What we need, is realistic, practical thinking. The (anti-White male) law is as it is, the (anti-White male) corruption is as it is, the (anti-White male) regime is as it is, (the anti-White male) society is as it is… I find too often that we are discussing a world that no longer exists, or what ‘we’ should do if we had control over the law and the regime. I do find it amusing how many women on this website claim to be fans of Hitler, Mussolini, and/or the bible and yet still strongly embrace feminist constructs… but, does a fish know it swims in water? The reality is that (White) women will not voluntarily give up their superior position of power over White men, even if they would be happier doing so. A (White) woman might temporarily ‘submit’ to an ‘Alpha’ man as long as it pleases her, but she is ultimately still in control… the only exception to this is if the woman is very unintelligent compared to the man. Women are only truly attracted to White men that truly have more power than them… and in this feminist society, these men are very few indeed. So back to the practical, what can we do? Anything that increases the power of White men over White women is good for the survival and growth of the White subspecies, as White women would love White men more and produce more White children. Since we have no control over society as a whole, we can only rely on our own ‘secret’ societies (tribes, cults, gangs, syndicates), and more likely, increasing our personal power (very difficult and involves spending time mastering female psychology in theory and then practice) relative to women. One alternative, is arranged interaction between pro-White men, and girls (i.e virgins) that are still living with their parents. Girls that have not been as exposed to anti-White society, and made aware of ‘sexual market value,’ are more likely to love a man simply because he is physically attractive (enough) and available. This naturally usually requires that the parents are also pro-White, or that you have some excuse to interact with the girls. Regardless, the situation is dire… I suppose what I am saying is that we cannot (easily) take away the superior power the median/average White woman has over the median/average White man. Thus the only solution is to increase the power of the pro-White White man. This can involve acquiring a more attractive appearance, acquiring more money, acquiring attractive skills… but I believe the most important is acquiring social power… what this means is that pro-White White men must help each-other, and ideally, that pro-White White women must help pro-White White men. We must be each-other’s ‘wingmen’ and ‘wingwomen.’ Actually, for all the White men out there that would like a White woman, your mothers failed you. Indeed, a mother has not been a successful mother unless her sons have found wives. It used to be understood that for a woman to ‘graduate’ from formal motherhood, she had to find all her sons wives. But it seems to have been that the Boomer generation completely abdicated this critical role of parenthood. My parents, for-example, far from helping me find a suitable wife, they actively worked against me my whole life! Anyway, I suppose that in this feminist age, pro-White men need to master PUA, in a desperate attempt to in someway appear superior to women, since women ONLY love a superior man. The only potential exception to this, is when a woman has ‘motherly’ feelings for a man. However, I have little experience with this. My parents viewed and view themselves as ideal parents merely for forcing their tyrannical anti-White religion on me. Regardless, posting in these forums has no doubt reduced my attractiveness for girls and women that check these forums since anyone one of the things I have said should trigger 99.9…% of them and/or make me appear ‘weak.’ But what is there to talk about then? I could construct a persona and ‘fake it until you make it.’ Maybe I will do that, but I did not come to this website to be fake. Whatever, I will likely not be posting here in future except to reply, as I’m tired of soliloquy.

[Hunter]

Libertarianism vs. Women… I must admit to being somewhat conflicted on this issue. I typically default to the concession that women should be treated as equals to men under the law. I think this way since, if I were a woman, this is what I would want. But, for civilization, and love herself, there are significant downsides. Women generally only love superior men, so if every woman is legally property to be owned by a man, she is much more likely to love that man, and reproduce at least as much as he desires. Therefore, a society where women are legally equal to men results in less love, and far fewer children. This is very hard for me, I am a passionate supporter of both liberty and love, but the nature of women as a collective, makes these two values somewhat contradictory. What am I to do? A good compromise would be, perhaps, treating females as property until they produce and raise at least 2 children to adulthood. This would both stabilize society, and grant women liberty after fulfilling their duty to society. What are your thoughts on the matter?

[Hunter]

I haven’t been keeping up with my cross-posting. So I think I will stop attempting to post here every post that I have posted in other threads. I had been thinking that maybe I should be self-censoring myself more than I already am in order to appeal to the Christianesque-traditionalist types, but, nah. I’m really sick self-censorship, so I’ll just do the minimum necessary. Honestly, it seems like we’re doomed. By we, I mean anyone pro-White or even just pro-Liberty. Yet, I will continue to post here for the community. I really don’t expect to find a lover here… I find humorous yet immensely tragic how many supposedly pro-White people submitted to the Synagogue’s genetically modifying death and/or slave injections after their plandemic was ‘officially’ declared by the WHO, an organization nominally led by a nigger communist and having the two biggest public donors being none other than the CCP and Bill Gates (of Hell). It is hard for me to comprehend… if you believed that the regime was trying to genocide your race, the White race, how could you possibly think they had protecting your health in mind? Why would you say yes to a mystery injection, where the injectors have no liability for what happens to you? Why say yes to an admitted genetic injection—with the possibility of permanent genetic modification—(((they themselves))) said would use your own cells to produce more of the spikes that were said to cause damage. That sounded like like a recipe for auto-immune disease when I first heard about it… and I was right. The number of sinister signs and lies surrounded the plandemic ‘measures’ should have made run in the other direction, any White person who was aware of the program to genocide Whites. In fact, if you took/take any ‘vaccine’ injection after 2019, I have to say that you were/are not actually pro-White at that time, at the very least. Now, if you were fooled, and especially if you have been obviously damaged, it is up to you to seek vengeance, not just for yourself, but for us all.

[Hunter]

Why she rejects you? Simple, women are attracted to power, or the ‘appearance’ of power, first and foremost. White men have only been collectively losing power relative to women and non-Whites since the defeat of the Third Reich. It used to be, that women wanted a more ‘womanly’ man—a gentle-man—since, such a man, would be more likely to be friendly and kind to her… but this only exists/existed in societies where women are/were treated as minors or property. This dynamic, still exists to some degree, in places like Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Chivalry is dead, at least, in the West, since women are no longer treated as the ‘property’ of men—traditionally a woman’s father, husband, or closest male relative would be her ‘owner’ or guardian. Women (and non-Whites) are not only legal equals to White men, but in many ways they are now legal superiors. This means, that to compete, a White man basically has to be a ‘smooth criminal’ or be born to power (this includes physical ‘power’ like height). Unless White men retake the West by force, White women will, in ever greater numbers, betray their race, and those few lucky ‘Alpha’ White men will be more and more isolated, and eventually they too shall fall. Unfortunately due to the competitive nature of White men, they are unlikely to support each-other, especially since such behavior is often labeled ‘gay.’ Being labeled ‘gay’ or feminine kills your chances with most women. Meanwhile, the opposite is true for women, most men find women making-love to be erotic. Realistically, a serious pro-White movement has to offer loyal supporters access to women and reproduction. In fact, almost all armies, historically, have motivated their soldiers by offering them the fruits of conquest, women first among them. This is the way of this world, I don’t have to like it, and I don’t.

[Hunter]

The major reason I’m single with no children, is that I was too bloody picky, still am really, at least, when it comes to monogamy—also, women like men that other women like, so if a guy has two women, both of them will be more attracted to him than if he just had one of them; women don’t like being the focus of your attention, and if you have two women both of them will like you more… the only exception to this is if the women have been subject to strong monogamous conditioning… I was raised by parents that strongly condemned sex or even platonic girlfriends before marriage. No girl nor woman I met and spent any real time with, measured up to my high standards for wishing to spend my whole life with them, so I didn’t bother. Then, due to forgoing interaction with the opposite sex, I found it increasingly difficult to engage with them in a way that could result in sex. Of course, I was also extremely busy earning A’s and dealing with illness… and then there was the lethal-slave injection zombie apocalypse that forced me to return to my father’s house. The pool of descent available females had then drastically shrunk even more. Doing online coursework doesn’t lead to interaction with the opposite sex, or anyone for that matter. Furthermore, not having your own place kills female interest. Yet, I refuse to be a rent-slave. The jobs that are available for my degree in this country are all in government and, of course, the (((regime))) still mandates the lethal-slave injections and is extremely anti-White. I’m also old and broken at this point with no relevant work experience even if they were to drop the requirements. Life has certainly sucked: being alone, working so hard, for so long, to get ‘A’s,’ to get ‘buff,’ and up-to-now, seemingly for nothing but suffering. Alas, if only there were a lass for me, a life worth living for me; take me to Tír na nÓg.

[Hunter]

How important is religion? Extremely important, nothing is more important. Devout Christians are actually some of the most hostile Whites to eugenic realism. Self-professed White Communists are easier to covert to our pro-White subspecies position. Furthermore, the devout Christian’s understanding of what love is… is dramatically warped. For them, love is obeying the rules of the ‘bible’ or their ‘pope.’ They will even severely harm their own children to do so. Nominal Christians are entirely different, and if you can dominate them, they will follow your lead so long as you don’t attempt to force them to give up Jesus.

[Hunter]

“The internet is an inhuman judgmental place.” I agree. The perception of infinite choice makes most women reject all long-term relationship choices. By amusing contrast, women who don’t tune into ‘internet dating’ can end up with disgusting men. My cousin married an ugly (probably Jewish) guy simply because they worked together as sex-crimes lawyers. This is one case where I’m happy that she is ‘child-free.’ @Benito, most of Europe is under the clay-iron curtain of the EUSSR, and so, in-terms of programming, the women there are no better than the women here. Although, the White women can certainly (in some countries) still be physically more attractive on average. Also, the problem with finding better women in one place (perhaps Georgia) and bringing them back to North America, is that they will likely acculturate to the local culture… and of course, culture here in North America is formed by our mortal enemies.

[Hunter]

I strongly advised my older brother NOT to send his children (especially his daughters) to public school, but his HOUSEWIFE is ignorant and just wants to get the kids out of her ‘hair’ and she thinks she had a good public school experience so her children should too. For reference, my brothers are not pro-White, but my oldest brother did have some inclination in that direction if not for his fanatical submission to Yahweh (Judaeo-Christian Saturn)… yet he at least married White and is anti-Vax/Mark-of-the-Beast-666… it is on that basis and the threat of Neocommunism that I appealed to not send his kids to public school. But he deferred to his wife, so off to (((indoctrination))) and wasted potential the kids went. I noticed my niece, who used to love me to the point of jumping on me and asking me to give her a baby (yes really, very precious that one, probably saw what mommy and daddy were up-to), now completely ignores me in favor of her stupid ‘friends’ from either of her indoctrination centers (church and public education). What is considered permissible or forbidden by this (((society))) is an inversion of what is good. Case in point, my niece was not allowed to become my wife like she wanted, and I wasn’t going to break any legal rules… meanwhile, she WOULD be permitted, nay encouraged by (((society))), to have sex with a nigger (especially one under 18). If that’s not sick, I don’t know what is; c’est la vie.

[Hunter]

Women in the workforce en-masse has undermined society. How? By devaluing men’s labor and relative attractiveness; women typically only marry-up. I don’t think women should be forbidden to work, but White women SHOULD be encouraged to be mothers at the earliest healthy age—some women are sufficiently developed by 13~, some later. An example of a healthy society would have a father choose from among his friends potential marriage matches for his sufficiently mature daughter, and then let her make the final selection after spending time with them all. Her primary role then, would be wife and (typically after 1 year) mother. Her formal role as mother would be complete when she finds wives for all her sons—before she does, she would also have the role of arranging casual relations between her post-marriage friends and her sons. Her role as wife would become optional after graduating formal motherhood if her husband has another younger wife. Then her role would be to care the young men… To simplify, you could say: arranged marriage at 13 for a woman (father provides at least 4 candidates from among his friends, and lets his daughter make her choice after spending a monitored week with each man), graduation from marriage at 40 if all her children are married and her husband has a younger wife. A mother would (always) be responsible for introducing potential marriage partners to her sons (typically the daughters of her friends) and for arranging casual (sexual) relations for her unmarried sons with her post-marriage (40+) friends. In short, young women for older men and older (post-marriage) women for younger men.

[Hunter]

By the way, the societal focus on equal-age relationships is a consequence of the age-based mandatory education system, the Victorian mythology of ‘childhood’ continuing past biological maturity, and the obsession with (((equality and feminism))). Notably young women are attracted to powerful men they encounter regularly, yet the dogma of (((equality and feminism))) bans these men from reciprocating this affection. Examples of men forbidden from reciprocating romantic affection include fathers, uncles, teachers, ect… age-gap relationships would be healthy for society as it would facilitate the passage of ‘the baton’ from one generation to the next. It is not a coincidence why any relationship where a man has power over a woman is considered (((exploitative)))… since these are the only relationships where it is almost guaranteed that the woman will develop romantic feelings for the man so long as he doesn’t actively sabotage them. Females have three modes with respect to interaction with males: respect for perceived power mode, caregiver mode, and f-off mode.

[Hunter]

Young women ‘marrying’ older men is the natural order as older men are more likely to provide what young women want, money and stability. Furthermore, the younger women are, the longer they are fertile, and the more energy they have to give birth to and raise children. Marriages of equal age only really make sense with family backing (financial support/inheritance) and/or an easy economy (e.g. 1920’s/1950’s)… I wonder how many men can afford a housewife now and/or how many women would accept a frugal life (no luxuries and/or status symbols) in-exchange for being a housewife… what do you think?

[Hunter]

There are clearly attractive non-White women e.g. search Startpage for ‘beautiful Asian woman’ and ‘ugly White woman.’ Now, a non-White woman cannot be the MOST attractive, nevertheless, attractive non-White women exist. Of non-White women, Asian women come second to White women in their potential to be attractive. As for easiness, yes, men want sex and they will often simply take what they can get. One solution to this would be to completely legalize sex and surrogacy auctions so that a White man could pay to have (sex and) a child with a (physically) beautiful White surrogate-prostitute, thereby keeping his energies working for his race alone. This would create the job of ‘professional birth mother.’

[A_Spartan_Speaks]

I disagree that there is any such thing as an “attractive” oriental or non-White female. I don’t think it’s possible to compare physical attractiveness across racial lines. Oriental females are not attractive, they are easy, the path of least resistance for low quality White males seek easy, regular sex.

[Tradiman]

@Dude
The Greatest Story Never Told, Adolf hitler, and, Europa: The last Battle.

[Hunter]

Talking about reality, not ideology, if a White man only has the option of an ugly or no White woman, almost all—except for hardcore White racialists—White men will go with the attractive Asian woman. The point is that White women race-mixing is cancerous treason with no excuse, while White men race-mixing outside of White territories—and keeping any non-White women/children there—is not a problem… or even good if the men are White Tribalists that intend to create pure-White spaces.

[Hunter]

The signs that Whites are now actively targeted for genocide—by almost all institutions and in every previously White country—are exceeding obvious at this point, and the Synagogue plans to replace us with non-Whites, especially, niggers. Also, White women may (often) have the final decision on whether or not they should commit the most severe of mortal crimes—but ultimately many ‘decisions’ were already made for them. All the messaging from (((power))) tells them to reproduce with ‘good’ niggers or, at least, not with ‘evil’ White men. The Synagogue raises up niggers, and other ‘useful’ non-Whites, and shits on White men. Then there is the fact that non-White males with an early development curve and higher testosterone and White females—that are biologically women at 9-12—are forced together at very early ages and (((indoctrinated))) together for 12+ years. All normal women have the instinct to mate with men they perceive as powerful. White men have been castrated by their (((society))), we are perceived as weak. Women, all women, choose the ‘winners.’ White men as a group have been losing continuously since the Third Reich was destroyed, and that trend has only accelerated. Indeed, at this absolutely disgusting and tragic point, it would be far better—perhaps necessary—to have gangs of pro-White White males acquire (virgin) White females (regardless of age) to keep collectively as ‘gang wives.’ Recruiting White men to the gang would be a simple transaction of loyalty to the gang in exchange for sexual access to the ‘gang wives.’ Of course, such a White gang would be targeted for extermination by the Synagogue and they would use all the weapons at their disposal, cuckservatives first among them. Meanwhile, the non-White, especially mudslime/nigger brutal rape gangs continue to be protected by the (((system))). I don’t have a simple answer, but if you’re smart-wise you will either prepare to live as a commando behind-enemy-lines while organizing a serious revolution, or flee to some safer place.

[Hunter]

“I’m worried about infiltrators, doxing, or the Biden Admin declaring a ‘war on white supremacy’ or some shit and arresting people for group affiliation.” This has already happened repeatedly, and is why an unofficial confederation of organizations is necessary. So if you are fearful—perhaps wisely—of joining an existing organization, why not take inspiration from them, and start your own?

[Hunter]

@Dude, I try to double post—using this thread as my archive of posts.

[Dude]

@Hunter – I think your message got mushed across different forum groups… I see the same point in the “Double Standards” forum

[Hunter]

“Our enemies are weak as fuck and grow weaker and more shrill, hysterical and desperate by the day.” Can you provide evidence to back that up… since as far as I can tell, the Canadian Trucker’s Freedom Convoy has still been the single greatest act of defiance against the Neocommunist World Order (NWO) in North America. An actual serious resistance would require at least one governor of a sub-federal jurisdiction in North America to rise in open defiance against the NWO in support of Whites, or at the very least, Liberty.

[Hunter]

I find the discussion about polygamy to be at best intellectual entertainment. Under current laws across the West, women (married or not) can have sex and reproduce with whoever they want. Women/girls under the age of Majority can as well, although, if the men are Majors they can be imprisoned as ‘pedophile-rapists,’ and this is especially likely if the men are (non-elite-traitor) White.

[Hunter]

I was being very optimistic when I talked about ‘White lands’ as, if you are following the news, you will know that the mass non-White invasion of all territories that I listed as (historically) White lands is ongoing and accelerating, and there is no serious resistance—was the Third Reich the last instance of this? Pursing White Tribalism in, for-example, Thailand is now critical. The goal should be permanently bringing over as many single pro-White White men (and eventually women) as possible, united under the simple survivalist ideology of White Tribalism. I have provided the template my Dude. “Is it really productive to suggest that a church setup is for Sheeple?” It is not a suggestion, it is a reality that the vast majority of people are followers. So-called ‘atheists’ are as well, as the vast majority essentially worship the state and whatever the (((media))) tells them to worship. ‘Net-Zero’ is the project to enslave/exterminate life as we know it on Earth; the UN is the new Communist International and the EU is the new USSR. The Neocommunist World Order (NW0) is a Judaeo-Satanist project. The Synagogue of Satan (S0S) already rules most of the Earth and is tightening their grip as we speak. The last big hope, aside from (super)natural intervention or the S0S eating itself, is White American gun owners actually deciding it is finally time to use their guns in an organized full-spectrum anti-NW0/S0S pro-Liberty/White revolution.

[Dude]

@Hunter – I think that anti-white sentiment has infiltrated society as a whole. Including the churches. I can’t comment on what people are like where you are, but I find atheist types very brainwashed as well. Is it really productive to suggest that a church setup is for Sheeple?

Regardless, a million unique flowers sure. However, a worked out or successful template that people can draw on would be helpful to iron out…

• This reply was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by Dude.

[Hunter]

To reiterate, practically speaking, you are not going to stop White men from having sex/reproducing with non-White women, UNLESS, you make this practice highly illegal and/or you expel the non-White women. The reverse also applies as, practically speaking, you are not going to stop White women from having sex/reproducing with non-White men, UNLESS, you make this practice highly illegal and/or you expel the non-White men. HOWEVER, the difference lies in that White women have no excuse for having sex/reproducing with non-White men, as they can ALWAYS easily find a White man to have sex/reproduce with, the reverse is not true. That said, this does not mean I endorse White men reproducing with non-White women in White lands, nor bringing their non-White family to White lands. By White lands, I generally mean: Europe, USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand—you might also include parts of South America. White men who are in non-White lands can actually help creating White spaces by having non-White wives and creating a sympathetic pro-White population: identifying as a White Tribalist indicates a generalized pro-White preference, but does not necessarily exclude interaction with non-Whites; Whites come first, but let’s be realistic. To provide the most extreme example, a White Tribal leader within a non-White land, would permit White men to ‘legally marry’ and reproduce with non-White women while requiring White women to only reproduce with White men, perhaps to the extent of forbidding White women from interacting with non-White men as much as possible. This could allow for a two-tier Tribe to be formed consisting of a pure White pro-White core, and a non-White/mixed pro-White periphery that supports the core.

[Hunter]

The Synagogue is a ‘pit of vipers,’ they have not always been entirely unified. What unifies them, is their dream of world enslavement and their hatred of goyim, especially the ‘best’ of the goyim, Whites… As it was, the Judaeo-Satanists won the 2nd Civil War—the Revolutionary War was the first—by killing Lincoln before he could deport the blacks to Liberia and return to the Constitutional Silver-Standard. The South had the legal right to succeed however, and this makes Lincoln the aggressor—playing into the Synagogue’s hand—for not simply letting the South go. Relations between an independent South and North did not have to be bad as they would still have more in common than with the Mexicans or the ‘Canadians.’ If you learn your history you’d know that it was ultimately blacks and Jews that lobbied the most to support the black-slave trade. Disgustingly, Synagogue slavers even (forcibly) bred black men with Irish women en-masse to create the ‘ideal slave.’ This partially explains the White admixture in American blacks… and the current racial policy being forced on the bank-enslaved ‘West.’

[Hunter]

“We could compile a list of all of the manipulative entertainment media out there with the specifics of their propaganda.” That is the purpose of critical review. There is no need to ‘consume’ anything, and certainly not without being informed of the ideological programing of the work. On another note, the Zoroastrian religion celebrated incest, and shunned outcest. The wisest Magi—the religio-intelligensia—were said to be born of the sexual union of a mother and her son. From Zoroastrianism: Gayomart, whose elder sister conceived him by her father and in turn conceived by him the twins, who then peopled the world; the theological doctrine of xvaetvadatha, which recommends as especially pious and meritorious sexual unions between mother and son; what seems unique in the theology of the Magi when compared to later monotheistic theologies, is the doctrine of xvaetvadatha so that a man acquires a significant religious merit by having sexual intercourse with his mother; the Magi undoubtedly revealed the dogma of xvaetvadatha to justify the marriages with sisters, mothers, and daughters by which they preserved the divine ichor of their holy family from all danger of genetic pollution… it is interesting to think that this doctrine would have likely dominated the world if Persia—literally, and originally, the land of Aryans—had defeated the states of Greece. For reference, current Iran is only non-Aryan due to being brutally conquered by the Arabs, and later, the Mongols. The criminalization of incest, and the promotion of outcest, is a manifestation of the Judeo-Satanist divide and conquer strategy. Additionally, the current strict dividing line between ‘adult’ and ‘child’ is irrational. ‘Children’ are permitted to have sex with other ‘children’ without commitment, but not ‘adults.’ Yet, that defies the basic biological definition, that if an organism is capable of successful reproduction, it must be considered mature and not juvenile. This, combined with compulsory public education, allows the Synagogue to control the future by controlling the means of reproduction both biologically and ideologically. If the White subspecies is to survive, we must seize the means of biological and ideological reproduction. We must critically analyze our ‘morality’ from this perspective. If done, many will come to understand that their ‘morality’ is actually an anti-morality instilled by our mortal and spiritual enemies.

[Hunter]

All forms of planned communities should be considered, ‘let a billion unique flowers bloom.’ Practically, it is very difficult. Perhaps an ideal position to be in, would be being the top (local) authority of a group of ‘follow the leader’ Christian sheeple, followed by the initiation a strategic pro-White reformation including the establishment of planned religious communities. Control over an existing ‘congregation’ then, is critical, as numbers-momentum is 99%~ of a people’s movement.

[Dude]

I guess a question is, how would one amass enough people and resources together to setup such a state? Legal and planning would be difficult, let alone finding the right people for buy in. Also, the values / views / etc from the WD and Alt-white community seem to vary so widely that finding enough people with the right commonality seems… impractical…

I believe I read a comment from someone on here about setting up something akin to modified Mennonite enclaves? I guess that is also in the direction of what I am thinking.

[Hunter]

You are very right my dude, sovereign micro-states a la Singapore, are an ideal solution for most political problems. You are thinking of Orania, an attempt to mimic a state without being formally recognized as a state. Really, if South Africa was unable for whatever reason [(((international pressure)))] to expel the blacks back north and/or to their reservations, the only solution for White long-term survival there would have been partition. An example is the partition of British India between Muslims and non-Muslims.

[Dude]

I think a solution to a preserve heritage is a micro-state like in that white town in South Africa (the name escapes me) – where all the people buy into the ideals, values and property of the state. The state is actually owned by a governing force bound (somehow) to never allow the sale of land (etc) to outsiders. The people must marry within the state, or likewise states, to retain their citizenship to the state. Failing to do so results in a loss of citizenship, thereby ensuring that all those who remain maintain their heritage. Those who want to leave can do so but outsiders cannot come because the land will never be sold on an open market.

[Hunter]

“Christian asceticism.” Not very popular these days… “By saying that white men can’t control their urges you are either proving Christianity to be the one true religion” What? How? “Or you are implying that White men are just as weak willed as the rest of the populace.” No, not just as weak willed, but even White men have their breaking point. What is a mid-life crisis? I was being realistic, you are being extremely idealistic in thinking that Whites would, in significant number, voluntarily remain celibate simply to avoid interacting or reproducing with non-Whites. White women have no excuse for having sex/reproducing with non-Whites, but White men do. Given the choice of remaining celibate or having a non-White wife, the vast majority of White men would choose the non-White wife. Perhaps, for example, if you had control of the Vatican and changed canon law to prohibit interracial intercourse, you might have some especially devout White Catholic men remain celibate over having intercourse with non-White women, but it would still be a minority. Only with the power of the state, could you really ban interracial sex (similar to how sex with minors is highly illegal for non-elites), and as a result some men would simply not have sex, others would leave.

[Hunter]

I was thinking that Phoenix Ascendant sounds better than Phoenix Rising, maybe next time. Really, the first step is to have a regularly used chat group just to start building momentum. Yes, the National Alliance is currently the best pro-White organization in North America that I am aware of, and I appreciate their struggle for our subspecies. Yet, they seem too anchored in the past and, ironically, Christian moralism. Critically, the organization is not libertarian. White Libertarian Nationalism is the cause that will both return (North) America to her roots and lead her into a brighter future.

[Hunter]

Unless you can promise a White man, a White wife that is more attractive than the (inevitably Asian) alternative, it is unrealistic to forbid White men from race-mixing. Especially, if they are doing it outside of White lands without ever bringing non-Whites to White lands. If you really do not want ANY White people straying from their subspecies, you must establish a White Nationalist territory AND you must have some system that ensures every-single White person will be married in adulthood. For-example, people must submit evidence of their marriage by their 20th birthday, and those who fail to do so will be imprisoned together in close-quarters. When two of the prisoners decide to get married they can leave the prison. The ‘marriage prison’ could be more like a beach resort. I’m a libertarian at heart, but I’d honestly love to be an absolute monarch, oh the fun to be had! That’s enough fantasy for now though.

[Hunter]

Belarus, it is one country that I seriously considered immigrating to, before reconsidering given the geopolitical circumstances… Belarus has to be the last White (although, not Aryan, Slavic) country with a regime that is not anti-White. So I can see the appeal. Historically, Strasserism comes the closest to an actual ‘White communism,’ but never held any land after their failed coup. Strasser supposedly privately enjoyed homosexual activities, so it is possible that his ‘White communist dictatorship’ would have been socially-liberal, certainly more-so than Stalin’s dictatorship. Also, I’ll point out that, ‘multi-racial capitalistic democracy,’ if it could ever be said to exist, is temporary. Multi-racialism destroys democracy, and ultimately, so does ‘capitalism.’ That is, if you include the black market within capitalism. The Synagogue used ‘evil’ to capture and/or replace the elite class in the UK and then the USA. This resulted in the creation of the ‘Federal Reserve’ and from this unlimited control of money, they now owned ‘capitalism,’ in the same way a casino is owned. Then they, the Synagogue, bought the media, and the rest is history.

[Hunter]

Pro-White organizations are few in number and those that do exist are often wedded paradoxically to Christian dogmatism. The best example of a pure pro-White organization that I can think of is Amren, yet even that website slides towards cuckservatism. The primary objective of any pro-White organization should be to increase the % of Whites vs. non-Whites globally, and to increase the genetic quality of Whites as a whole.

[Hunter]

It is possible, as Hitler’s grandmother was supposedly a maid in a Rothschild mansion. Most ‘Jews’ in Europe, especially the Ashkenazim (Nazis) were/are actually mostly Khazarian (a ethnic group closer to the Turks and Mongols). The Khazarians had conquered the Ukraine, taking the land from the Germanic Aryan peoples. The story goes that the King of the Khazarians was swayed by a Jewish Rabbi into converting to Rabbinical Judaism, and his subjects followed him. The Russ (not modern Russians) later reconquered the Ukraine for Odin, and so the ‘Jews’ spread throughout Europe. Of course, the ‘true Jews’ had also been key in the fall of Rome, so Jews always existed in Europe, at least since the Roman Empire conquered Judea. Deportation (of Jews to ‘Judea’) was actually attempted by Hitler before the war, but the British (Rothschild) prevented this solution. I could go on and on. Just know that almost everything you have been (((told))) about Hitler and the Third Reich is false Judeo-Satanist propaganda. Nevertheless, I only said that Hitler was essentially right on race, he was wrong on many other issues.

[Dude]

I’ve heard that Hitler was 1/4 Jewish, but have not had the chance to confirm this point. If this is true, I wonder if the type of in-group preferential behavior exhibited by Hitler was more of a middle eastern phenotypical behavior rather then a European phenotypical behavior. As it was, other Germans at the time had proposed simply deporting the people they didn’t like. I don’t think it is common in Caucasian behavior to engage in total extermination. After all, if such a behavior were common then how could there be so many different Caucasian phenotypes? By contrast, I don’t think that middle eastern DNA has the same wide variety. A narrow genetic variation could (in part) be the result of group domination to the point of extermination. Then, another group dominates. And so forth, slowly eroding down the variance within the population.

Ultimately, I’m skeptical of Hitler. As a forestatement, I’m not fully knowledgeable about WWII as I’d like. However, my understanding of Hitler’s tactics was that he was bleeding Germany with poor decisions. Large tanks. Too large to be useful. Large gun emplacements. Easy to disable. Easy to spot. Too large to be useful. He had them making bombers when they really needed fighter planes. And on and on. I don’t know if Germany’s successes in WWII were because of him. I think they were due to forethought by a generation of planners before him who laid out how to conquer France, etc. His group simply acted out these plans. Am I wrong?

[Hunter]

Men and women are not equal, especially when it comes to sexuality. A double standard is therefore completely natural. Women can choose to reproduce with almost any man. How many (especially unmarried) men will turn down free sex? Men’s reproductive choices are, by contrast, extremely limited unless in the top 10% of men (as determined by women). Men reproducing with non-Whites outside of White lands does not harm Whites as a subspecies (race) so long as the non-White women and children stay there. (White) women, by contrast, are a limited reproductive resource. Every healthy White woman that either does not reproduce, or worse, reproduces dysgenically (especially outside of her race) is a loss to our Aryan subspecies as a whole.

[Hunter]

I’ll echo your surprise at the weakness of ‘our’ survival instinct, and you’re right dude, the result of WW2 was far more damaging than WW1. Hitler was very close to being completely right on the subject of race (subspecies), and yet he was, by the elite Jew’s media, made into a being worse than Satan… and then completely defeated. If the Aryan (White) subspecies does not rise again to beat the odds, we will have to conclude that the defeat of the Third Reich heralded the being of the end of our subspecies.

[Dude]

The idea of self preservation into the future seems unthinkable to many. I don’t really understand why – I’m surprised that external programming so strongly works on what I would think would be an internal drive.

I think that WWII broke the idea or willingness of Caucasian nations having the right to be Caucasian.

[Hunter]

Websites like this are good. But, ultimately, only mail delivery and other forms of media distribution—with links to websites like this one—will work. Then, the creation of actual friend groups of only White people that share the pro-White cause are necessary. Honestly, this is up to the popular extroverted people out there. Good luck.

[Hunter]

There is almost nothing more disgusting and evil than an attractive White female betraying her race sexually. It can, perhaps, be understandable if the non-White male were seriously rich or, at least, of significantly superior economic standing. But it is beyond my imagination why an attractive White female would voluntarily spend any length of time with poor non-White males, let alone reproduce with them… and yet this is becoming more and more common. It seriously ruined my day to see a tall attractive redhead walking ‘home’ with an equally tall nigger, both of whom were apparently in the last grade of elementary school. Yet the same young woman (she was certainly physically mature) would be completely off-limits to me courtesy of our Judeo-Satanic society. I think of my mother, who was also a tall redhead fully physically developed at 12. If society were as corrupt when she was 12, what would have happened to her? Would she have reproduced with niggers? Entirely possible, and the very thought makes me passionate about removing niggers et al. Indeed, deportation of all non-Whites and race-traitors is the only way to save the White race. White male race-traitors can be forgiven as they are not the choosers—many of them just took what was first available to them—yet they too must be deported or forced to give up their non-White wives/offspring, and this includes my own biological brother. IF THIS IS NOT DONE IN AT LEAST 1 NUCLEAR ARMED NATION (USA/UK/FRANCE), THE WHITE RACE (SUBSPECIES) HAS NO FUTURE…

[Hunter]

Those with non-Christian sexual inclinations have been used by Neocommunist World Order (NWO) forces to divide and conquer (D&C) Whites. Yet, really, there is no reason to exclude people from the pro-White movement so long as they support White women eugenically producing (only) White children.

[Hunter]

WWI destroyed the monarchy and aristocracy that was keeping the financial class in check. Hitler later realized that the financial class elite were the primary enemy of the Aryan subspecies (and the communists et al., were their pawns). Due to historical factors, like being the only group in Europe permitted by the Catholic Church to charge interest, the elite of this elite were universally ‘Jewish.’ The result of WW2 destroyed (White) racialism, eugenics, and even nationalism as serious forces on this planet. Now, with the NWO Plandemic ‘Great Reset,’ our basic liberties are being erased. We are struggling against the existentially disastrous results of WW2. You could argue that WW2 never actually ended, and will not end until Aryans are completely destroyed or our spiritual and mortal enemies (with whom coexistence is impossible) are. This website is one step in the right direction. Embracing a more libertarian and less arbitrary moderation policy and allowing a non-paying user to initiate contact once a week might increase traffic. A profit sharing policy—perhaps using https://www.bitcoinsv.com/ or https://e.cash/—that rewards users for each paying user they recruit might also help.

[Hunter]

Question: I’m Greek–Italian American. Although my skin is very fair, I have dark eyes and have been told that I am actually some variety of black person because I have Greek ancestry. Do Western Euros even consider those of us who have Balkans/Mediterranean blood to be white?

Answer: You are White, but not ‘Snow White,’ to answer your question concisely. There is a spectrum of Whiteness. The purest Whites typically have natural blue eyes and blond or red hair, and they do not have lineage from a territory conquered by non-pure Whites in the past. The purest Whites are still most commonly found in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Germany (to a lesser degree since the disaster of WW2), and Italy (especially in the north).

[Hunter]

As a fertile woman, there is nothing more important than the selection of the man (or men) that will impregnate you. Specifically, there is nothing more important than his (their) genetics. Ask yourself the question: will the resulting children be eugenic? This means, are they likely to be of better genetic make-up than you yourself? If yes, go ahead and mate with him if you so desire (after considering the consequences of course). If the answer is NO, do not involve yourself with him any longer unless you intend to scam him (not recommended). This even applies to non-White women. Far to many supposedly ‘pro-White’ women put ‘Christianity’ above all else. If you are going to be pro-White, you must place this BEFORE your religion. Otherwise, you really are not pro-White, you are at best an outside sympathizer. So again, if I were a woman my answer to, “Would you date him (non-Aryan)?” Is, HELL NO. As a woman, it would be better to have sex with and get pregnant by literally any (pro-White) non-vaxd Aryan man over literally any non-Aryan/vaxd man.

[Hunter]

Cut myself today, unintentionally, due to hubris. What a way to end the summer.

[Hunter]

It was once understood that a parent’s formal duties were not done until every child was securely married to a suitable spouse. Arranged or rather, encouraged, marriages are critical to the success of the pro-White movement. The ideal encouraged marriage is an avunculate marriage between an Uncle and his Niece or an Aunt and her Nephew. This age/experience gap (while still being related) allows for the formation of strong family chains far surpassing the ‘nuclear’ family in strength. For reference, avunculate marriage is legal in: Norway, Chile, Argentina, Australia, Canada, Finland, The Netherlands, Germany and Russia. In cases where such ideal marriages are not possible, the next best option is to match your White children with your (White pro-White) personal friends. In both of these cases, parents play the central match-making role.

[Hunter]

I have come to perceive the focus on ‘tradition’ to be a grave weakness of the pro-White movement. Tradition has been a perpetual loser since the failed War for Confederate Independence and the start of WW1. The reason many of the most popular traditions are ‘traditional’ is because, at one time, they were LAW; sometimes they still are. Tradition, when not enshrined in LAW, almost always stands in opposition to the popular and therefore can never win without superior military force. Why? People do not like additional formal restrictions on their behavior beyond what is required by LAW. The primary objective of the pro-White movement must be to become popular. The very concept of ‘White’ is not rooted so much in the ‘traditional’ but in a scientific understanding of biology (genetics: genotype, phenotype, Darwinian/natural-law) and meta-narrative/history (chronological: memetics, eugenics, and dysgenics). The understanding of historical practices does not require practicing those practices. Rather, we must create new laws that will become traditions promoting the pro-White eugenic cause, and correspondingly, we must discard unnecessary requirements beyond LAW… at least, we must attempt to avoid being target by the superior force of the State. We must understand the past but firmly look towards the future(s) and take what action we can to enact change for the better.

[Hunter]

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