The ”Divine” Masculine & Feminine
Public Group active 6 months, 1 week agoA philosophical discussion of the Man of Tradition & Woman of Tradition.
The Heroic Archetypes – Masculine / Feminine – Julius Evola
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February 19, 2024 at 12:31 am #20398
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ParticipantCat is great.
January 5, 2024 at 11:23 pm #20044PrometheanFlame
ParticipantI haven’t read much of Evola, so I won’t presume to have a thorough understanding of his views and concepts regarding the ‘divine’ masculine and feminine. I’m choosing to mostly focus on the masculine for the moment here. Personally, I’d rather substitute the word “visionary”, “holy man” or “guru” for “ascetic” as I find little virtue in extreme self-denial or anti-materialism.
In the Vedic tradition, the planet associated with the warrior is Mars; and the planet associated with the guru or holy man is Jupiter. For those unfamiliar with Vedic astrology, it’s worth investigating if you have an interest in the esoteric sciences as they have a long and rich history of studying the celestial bodies and how they affect us. It’s quite different from modern, Western astrology in many ways- much more depth and it hasn’t been polluted or bastardized like many modern, Western traditions have become.
Depending on the position of Mars in a person’s birth chart and other factors, it will illustrate how a person expresses their masculine vitality, sexual drive, and warrior nature. Without proper guidance or a defined goal, the Mars energy of a person can become restless and destructive or fight for an evil cause, or just expend it’s “load” of energy in the wrong place. It is the pure driving force, and it governs our blood, red muscle tissue, adrenal glands and testosterone. It rules athleticism and war, and is very competitive. At it’s highest function, it seeks to destroy what is bad and defend what is good. When Mars is receiving the blessing of Jupiter and accepts the guidance He gives with love and devotion, you have a warrior who is aligned with his purpose, knows himself and fights for his higher vision instead of just being some lowly mercenary.
Jupiter on the other hand is the wise man, the visionary, the guru, the holy person, the great healer, the miracle worker even. He brings forth the blessings of the Gods and bestows them upon man, guiding him to enlightenment and fortune (fortune comes in many forms, including higher knowledge and wisdom). He also has a warrior aspect when provoked and He activates this power at certain times, but it is different than the type of warrior that Mars is. Jupiter is like the fatherly guide, who attempts to show us to ourselves and reveal to us the secrets of our own divine nature so that we can find our own right path in life. Jupiter expands our minds and bestows higher knowledge. Without the blessing or presence of Jupiter, it can be difficult to find meaning in life and one can feel lost and directionless. If Jupiter is debilitated, one can fall prey to internet celebrities and malicious cult figures (need I name any here? They are numerous!) who offer them answers and solutions to their problems that only leads to more problems, being taken advantage of and being led down a path of self-destruction.
In the context of the hero, Mars becomes the viril masculine power that propels him into action and Jupiter advises him on the best course of action, giving him vision, purpose and inspiration. To remove either would leave the hero either impotent (without Mars) or immoral (without Jupiter). Both are necessary for a hero to be born by virtue of his deeds.
For the feminine, we look to Moon and Venus. Moon represents the mother and all things associated with her: emotion, maternal instinct, intuition and nurturing. Venus represents the lover and all things associated with beauty, art and luxury. They both have a sensual element to them.
January 5, 2024 at 9:42 am #20042Anonymous
InactiveIf someone understand italian or french look What say Evola about family.
January 5, 2024 at 9:32 am #20041Anonymous
InactiveEvola was sympathetic to the Jews, was against the family and even against monogamy. He used generic words like Tradition or Blood or Nation, but always to subvert these words, giving different meanings. he is a terrible example, especially for those looking for marriage and children…this Philosophicat is a stranded old woman and another who will never marry.
January 5, 2024 at 1:29 am #20038Luke
ParticipantDid you even watch the videos, Awakened_Beauty? I’m not sure why you would find femininity in any way denigrated by the videos. I can understand disagreeing with Evola’s limited considerations of women’s roles, but to reference Varg (I’m assuming Vikernes) as some kind of authority — Lol. Lmao even. Perhaps, in the spirit of community building that we all strive for here, you could offer something useful, a recommendation or guidepost toward what you believe to be true, instead of derision.
December 20, 2023 at 7:37 am #19910Luke
ParticipantThanks for posting. I’ve read some Evola, including Revolt, but his writing can be quite dense. These videos from PhilosophiCat are inspiring and concise.
July 31, 2023 at 6:46 pm #18370Alumnus
Participant“Ascetic” but not “Father” – weird.
July 18, 2021 at 11:51 pm #13896Anonymous
Inactivethis is such a big deal
Cat is very good at explaining Evolas views and everyone on this site should watch these videos of her.
i think redpilled men kinda have an idea what they need to do and this only confirms your gut feelings,
but women get such a big barrage of constant propaganda from the system, they really need to hear this.June 13, 2020 at 2:29 am #10492Anonymous
InactiveIf anyone is interested to read Evola’s writing directly, this subject is covered in chapter 20 of Revolt against the Modern World Here are a few snippets that I highlighted in my copy:
“The warrior and the ascetic represent the two fundamental types of pure virility. In symmetry with these types, there are also two types available to the feminine nature. A woman realizes herself as such and even rises to the same level reached by a man as warrior and ascetic only as lover and mother. These are bipartitions of the same ideal strain; just as there is an active heroism, there is also a passive heroism; there is a heroism of absolute affirmation and a heroism of absolute dedication. They can both be luminous and produce plenty of fruits, as far as overcoming human limitations and achieving liberation are concerned, when they are lived with purity and in the sense of an offering”
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“What truly amounts to an abdication was thus claimed as a ‘step forward.’ After centuries of ‘slavery’ women wanted to be themselves and to do whatever they pleased. But so-called feminism has not been able to devise a personality for women other than by imitating the male personality, so that the woman’s ‘claims’ conceal a fundamental lack of trust in herself as well as her inability to be and to function as a real woman and not as a man. Due to such a misunderstanding, the modern woman has considered her traditional role to be demeaning and has taken offense at being treated ‘only as a woman.’ This was the beginning of a wrong vocation; because of this she wanted to take her revenge, reclaim her ‘dignity,’ prove her ‘true value’ and compete with men in a man’s world. But the man she set out to defeat is not at all a real man, only the puppet of a standardized, rationalized society that no longer knows anything that is truly differentiated and qualitative.”…”Man for his part has irresponsibly let this happen and has even helped and ‘pushed’ women into the streets, offices, schools, and factories, into all the ‘polluted’ crossroads of modern culture and society.”
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“…After that, everything else came tumbling down in a rush, following the law of acceleration. Eventually, because of the woman’s increased egocentrism, men will no longer be of interest to her; she will only care about what they will be able to offer to satisfy her pleasure or her vanity. In the end she will even incur forms of corruption that usually accompany superficiality, namely, a practical and superficial lifestyle of a masculine type that has perverted her nature and thrown her into the same male pit of work, profits, frantic activity, and politics.”Anyone who has looked at online dating apps will recognize that last paragraph.
June 10, 2020 at 10:00 pm #10451Anonymous
InactiveHere are some videos giving some exploration and explanation to the concepts of the Man of Tradition & the Woman of Tradition, particularly talking about the archetype of the “Hero” and how that differs between man and woman, as written by the great Julius Evola.
(Video by PhilosophiCat – great channel)
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