Fighting Loneliness & Despair

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  • #15002
    deckenfarbe
    Participant

    No, that someone who profits from this is not necessarily a woman. Also, giving in to feminism is less about not having courage, but rather about us men being too lenient. We should also have pushed back against first wave feminism, anyways, but I only understood that recently. Nowadays, we should take a very hard look at who is actually peddling this ideology, and those ideologies that sprouted from it? Or who are the benefiaries?

    As for the choice of women, I’d say they should be at least 20, because, to the best of my knowledge, younger women have a highly elevated risk of death during childbirth. Women are far too precious to be “wasted” like this.

    #14848
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’m 12 and what is this? Am I allowed to say “the n-word?”

    All joking aside, I only have 2 weeks left to shitpost before my (paid) membership expires. This should still be a free site. Half the profiles are fake/scams. At least they were able to filter out the tranny profiles once they started charging money, so I guess that’s a small White pill….

    To all of the MEN on this site: Filter your preferences down to women aged 18-29 with no kids and prepare to be blackpilled. If you want to have at least 2 (maybe 3) healthy White children of YOUR OWN, these are the choices that you are left with.

    Have at it, boyos. If you’re lucky, you might just be one of the lucky guys who gets to land himself his very own Carrie Bradshaw. (((OY VEY!!!)))

    If White American/European men had had the courage to push back against 2nd- and 3rd-wave feminism when it first began to take hold, then dating sites like this would be unnecessary. Someone is profiting from this, and that “someone” is a woman. Ponder that, fellas.

    #14815
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Response to OP-

    I’ve felt the same way from time to time, but that’s probably just blackpilling phases. You’re in a better position than I am by the sound of it. It may just be your corner of Canada just attracts shitty people, particularly if you live in a major, urban area like me.

    I reckon few of us have the luxury of living outside the big city. That is after all, where all the work is. So it boils down to what social networks you join in your local area and the social networks you join will have some effect on the type of women you encounter.

    I’m positive you’re far the only person in your region who thinks like you do politically and philosophically. Finding them is the issue. Such people usually have to hide in the closet, which is why we are all here in the first place and WhiteDate doesn’t get nearly the marketing it deserves.

    Social media (via sock accounts) is probably a better place to meet people. At the very least, we can help push WhiteDate’s visibility.

    I know Way of the World had thing going where he was trying to match up pro-white folks who live in the same area via email address exchange.

    If you watch the Matt & Blonde (form. Beauty and the Beta) show, their listeners also have periodic meetups and I think they have some Canadian followers.

    #14310
    WhiteMan
    Participant

    I often use endurance exercise to keep positive. But today I cycled 13 miles and weightlifted and feel depressed. Then I remembered I hadn’t taken my vitamins and minerals, so that’s what I’m doing now. Often, I believe, I get depressed when my nutrients are low. I go on Bumble date and its an awful typical LA city place of shallow people. And being pagan (Celtic Druid) I can only make a relationship with a pagan, and those are few and far. Anyway I’m taking my mega vitamins and minerals to fight off depression.

    – just now finished with mega doses of all my vitamins and minerals and trace elements, as well as heavy cold raw garlic. I’m going to work on some uplifting illustrations of our ancestors.

    #14071
    ItsNatural
    Participant

    I hope I didn’t come off too harsh for you. Just speaking up for what I think is right and another person, and to help you out, too.

    Also, for the record, I do have fond feelings for National Socialism and Hitler a bit, for sure, especially in times like these, but I am not a total believer in all they did and their spirit. I love my race, am a white nationalist, am open to whatever ideas about a way of government for us, and have at least a little different attitudes towards things than National Socialists.

    #14054
    ItsNatural
    Participant

    I’m going to say something that you won’t like – Marcus was right. That’s what I was going to say, and then you come down hard on him for advice. You can’t be that sensitive, nor look at things the wrong way and expect things to go your way. Take it as friendly advice, which you’re looking for, or don’t expect replies. I thought you were Hitler obsessed, too. That’s what a lot do and then ignore the big picture of widening their views to the real truth, that that is not the answer, but rather working more with others. It will make you feel better and is the correct way, in my opinion at least.

    If you’re going to call little children little bastards, then you probably don’t deserve to have any children. You and I don’t have a lot of experience of what it’s like to be in a long term relationship so we can’t judge the woman really. You think life is so hard and unfair now but wait until you actually have a relationship and find out how really hard it can be with another. You’ll see how hard and unfair it really is, especially when others like you judge divorcees so viciously.

    You need to lighten up. Also, relax a little and challenge yourself if your views really are totally correct. That’s what I did, and I noticed that while I was right about a lot of things, there were other things I was getting wrong and it’s made all the difference in the world to change them. I’m happier now and am more confident that I’m correct and at ease.

    #14045
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hey, don’t be sad. You probably should work on yourself first. Be successful and keep on doing what you love. If you want to talk a bit: (contact data)

    #14050
    Princep Vir
    Participant

    Hey Drak,

    Thank you so very much for your reply and opening up to me with relatable experiences. I really appreciate it. You and ‘It’s Natural’ members have been the kindest, most welcoming and responsive people I’ve met on these forums since I signed up.

    It’s good to let things out and not hold things in. For it will kill you from within, which is a horrible way to go.

    I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness for the first 12-and-half years due to my mother being a devote member of that pseudo-Christian cult for about a decade. So I didn’t grow up an entirely normal childhood myself. I was marooned and stifled out of being able to socialize normally with children in certain ways when it came to traditional holidays, standing for the national anthem at school, to even being forbidden to watch certain TV shows or play with certain toys as a boy. And I already had enough social problems as a boy. I was later diagnosed with – “supposedly” in the minds of the psyche/pharmaceutical industry – with having Asperger Syndrome. When my mother quit being a Jehovah’s Witness, it happened the same time my parents separated. It took me years to readjust, but also holding resentment towards my mother for being robbed of an important part of my childhood. I digress…

    Admist all that, I didn’t feel I had a strong father figure. My own father never talked to me about women or how to court women, much less about sex. Everything I learned about how to meet and date women, I had to learn the hard way: ALL ON MY OWN. I only had a bit of a woman’s advice from my mother, which helped slightly. I’ve had major self-confidence issues in the past and have felt like women just hate me and that I’m not likeable.

    My first-ever girlfriend was young lady, 3 years my senior, I had met in college. At first, it started out as just a friendship, then it became a close friendship, then after finishing college, it became a romantic relationship. Not long after about a year, cracks appeared in my first-ex’s mental health. She also suffers from physical chronic conditions since birth such as hydrocephalus (a buildup of excess fluid in the brain that can only be drained via head shunt and catheter tube) and atrial septal defect (a heart condition affecting the function of one of the heart’s atriums pumping and oxinigating blood). She had heart surgery at 17 years of age. As her mental state deteriorated, despite taking medication for it, she not only began having more night terrors, but then started turning against me, blaming me for things beyond my control. She began telling lies about me behind my back and became emotionally manipulative and abusive to me. When it all came to a head, she had just left me in the middle of January and ran off to a woman’s shelter and made outrageous allegations that I sexually assaulted her, which was a complete lie and defamation of my character. This happened in the dead of winter in Ottawa, Canada at the same time that there was no public transit running in the city due to a lengthy public transit strike by the worker’s union. I even had the displeasure of a phone call from a lady cop advising me to look for a lawyer. Luckily, everything was dropped due to hearsay and conjecture.

    That almost killed me and I almost contemplated committing suicide, mainly because of the situation I was in.

    Since then, I did find another girlfriend after that sick one, and although it also ended, it ended on a much more softer note and not in nightmarish flames. However, since then, I’ve been single again for about 8 years. Thankfully, I did learn more about myself, what I’m capable of handling and what I’m not capable of handling and also my last ex being a more physically attractive and more mentally sound woman, renewed a better sense of my romantic self-worth.

    Don’t get me wrong, I know turning 40 isn’t necessarily the end of the world. I still have another before that and thankfully we all do live a lot longer. I’m even lucky I look a fair deal younger than my age would normally show. I guess you could say, I have a tendency to put a lot of high expectations and standards upon myself and when I feel as if I haven’t met those goals or expectations as I had planned or hoped, I set myself up for great disappointment. I had the same feeling happen to me before when I turned 30.

    I actually have kept a notepad or book of goals I’ve written down goals for myself over the years and I’ve even broken it down from year to month by month.

    I know now very well to be genuine, as well as kind and decent as a person, but also to be honest with myself as well as about who I am honestly to others. As you’ve put it, “Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.” I actually remember a lovely summer weekend when I was riding my bike and I ran into a lovely young woman sitting in the grass by her bicycle and walking a little grey pet rabbit. I went up to her and said hello and we had a nice conversation. Although she was a nice girl – yet spoken for – she gave the same good advice you just mentioned to me: “Keep being yourself and the nice person you are and someday a woman will find you, see that in you and love you for who you are.” She also turned out to be a neighbour down the street from me. Hearing that from a nice younger woman I met once on a park bike ride rekindled a new sense of hope and confidence in me.

    I also know when not to waste my kindness on people who don’t deserve it. I’ve learned that lesson years ago from a bunch of similar experiences and cutting out former “friends” who either betrayed me or became socially toxic (i.e. psychic vampires). I’ve learned too that as much it’s nice to be nice, most people in modernity suck 110% and deserve, ideally, to die. Many others will take advantage of kindness and exploit for their own gain…which I’m well aware. But thank you, Drak, for reminding me.

    I’m just hoping I won’t have to wait several more years before I find a good woman, let alone “True Love.” Forgive me, I’m definitely a hopeless romantic, but I’m proud of it. Hopefully, someone may come along for me this year when I least expect it.

    Thanks again Drak for your positive reinforcement and sharing your experiences with me. I truly appreciate it. I’ll drop you a personal message sometime.

    Cheers. \m/

    #14042
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Princep Vir.

    Rather vent than keeping it to yourself. At least this allows you to open the door to interaction with others. Keeping everything in and suffering is what I call a slow death, which one of the worst ways to go.
    I’m in a similar situation, turning 36 myself this year, single and even financially broken due to the coof, so probably the lowest point of my life.
    Let me give a little summery of my life to give you an idea from my point of view.

    I had a very sheltered life and my first relationship I also got engaged to at the age of 27, so a late bloomer. I was earning exceptionally well at the time and our high end apartment was rent free as she came from a well off family worth 100s of millions, so our only expenses were living expenses. Her father was amazing and knew just giving their children unlimited money from the trust funds would be more harmful than good for them. So only their studies, basic living and smaller expenses were paid for. She was still studying at the time, so I was paying for everything. She would drive my car, while I drove her busted up car, she also had my one credit card so she could buy anything when needed. Being your first love and sheltered from the world you are blind to all the red flags. One being my credit cards were always maxed at the end of the month, but even down to my last few 100s, if I had enough petrol for the last week of the month I would buy her flowers, a doctor pepper and a treat or even just a surprise. I may have not been the best fiancé in the world but can most certainly say I was best I could be. Ultimately the relationship ended, leaving me broken, finding out she cheated with her ex. All the red flags were right in front of me. Some being all her good friends had broken ties, surrounding herself with anything but good company and becoming what I call the superficial plastics.

    This emotional breakdown led my down a spiral for 2 years where I tried to fill the void with other relationships at first and coupled with bad luck on partners I have taken a break for almost 2 years as well now. Given up the literal world (no understatement there) due to holding onto emotional attachment on past people who only still exist in memory. I consider myself above normal looking, bench pressing 170Kg in my peak and dated super models, but unfortunately even the most beautiful looking can be the most damaged. The last woman I dated was easily a 9/10 model. The relationship was amazing, we clicked perfectly but she was physically abused in a previous relationship, and no matter what I did she would self-sabotage herself and the relationship due to insecurities. I broke it off with her after a year and a half together and sadly she is self-destructing over the past two years, being engaged and broken off within 6 months and dating over 20 people in that time. I’ve tried to rekindle and even help her but sadly you can’t help people who can’t even help themselves.

    This is one same reason I even dropped a woman I was highly interested on this site due to her insecurities. We were talking for some time and she asked out of the blue if I was talking to other women on the site and I said yes I was. The thing is, I was referring to the forums, I didn’t even click she was thinking of other profiles. She went off immediately on how men are only interested in younger girls, virgins and so forth. At that very moment I knew either I tell her it was a mis-understanding and take the risk of entering another relationship of high insecurities or end it right there. That was a year+- ago. Yes some of you are thinking I should have told her but ultimately if a person isn’t even willing to talk or find out why xyz, it will be exceedingly hard to form a trusted relationship. If she had just messaged me afterwards, asking why, who or just any feedback, I would resolved the misunderstanding, but she didn’t say a word. I want someone who will always have my back as I will have theirs, that unwavering trust. If you can cut off a relationship of several months, then I’m sorry, I don’t have time to mess around anymore.

    The thing is, I still think she is a catch and our life goals line up perfectly.
    And that is a quick summery on my love life.

    Anyway Princep Vir, hitting 40 isn’t the end of the world. Men do have some more time than women at least in the age aspect. Just keep focusing on yourself and don’t chase women. If you build yourself up and leave the door open for opportunity, you will find someone. I can contest even your darkest moments will feel absolutely trivial when you do find that someone special.
    Sadly this site for men is like a stacked Russian roulette, the odds of finding someone here are highly unlikely. Your profile is well detailed, which is better than 75% of all the profiles here. This goes out to a lot of the ladies here, if you have a 1 sentence liner without any other details or pics, you guaranteed to get little or no response.

    Keep sticking with your core beliefs and you right on not attracting someone under a false pretense since if you do attract someone, it will be someone who shares different goals/ideals to that persona. Best advice I can give, is be genuine, be yourself and most importantly create opportunity for someone to enter your life. And if an opportunity does happen, take it, don’t hesitate.

    Also coming to friends and family, minimize time with family and even cut ties with friends who are not good for you. I have cut off several friends of 20+ years, not because they are bad people, I don’t hate them but they are not good for me. Surround yourself around people who elevate you, this also goes for your environment and formed habits.
    As they say, you want to see into your future, look at your friends and the people you surround yourself with.

    Being a good guy in society will put you at the back. Just hang and let me explain. I have always considered myself a good guy, always helping strangers, friends, co-workers and family even at the expense of my own wellbeing. Trying to always do the right thing. Unfortunately in an imperfect world, you can’t be perfect in a sense of good will without self-preservation as there will always be someone taking advantage. There are people who will always take kindness for weakness. Reserve that kindness to only those who deserve it. Put your wellbeing over all, and only then help others. You can’t help others when you can’t help yourself.
    Still carry yourself well to strangers, as kindness doesn’t cost a thing and can make a world of a difference to the people you interact with. Just don’t sacrifice yourself doing it.

    No person in history was loved by society for not stepping on other peoples toes and avoiding conflict. If you getting hated on by people for no transgressions, then it is their own personal issues or agendas. Rather be hated by people by being yourself rather than conforming and hating yourself for it.

    A big change will come from a mental shift. Write down your life goals, yearly, weekly and daily routines and take baby steps to accomplish them. Focus on what you want and enjoy, not what you don’t like. The like attracts like, is very important and that all stems from the mind. So focus on what you want. Also once you stop chasing or trying to find the soul mate, she ends up finding you. Sounds a little counterintuitive, but as long as you putting out into the world exactly what you want and allowing for opportunity to happen, it will happen.

    If you need any help or a chat, just drop a message.

    #14041
    Princep Vir
    Participant

    Marcus,

    I’m not 40 just yet, but I will be in a year-and-a-half. I will not go on dating websites with older women. I don’t want an older woman because they are or will be on the precipice of menopause. I want a younger woman so I can still keep the door open of siring children with her and having my own family. I won’t have that with a middle-aged woman. Additionally, a lot of older women have children from a previous relationship, which can cause a lot of problems with relationship dynamics and parenting issues. Essentially, if I date some woman with some little bastards – especially if their original father is deadbeat – then I become a “cuck” facilitating some other person’s children that aren’t even mine. In my generation, Millennials, I refuse to demote myself to that low plane of existence. Many women like that, not all of them fortunately, were the same girls I knew of in high school getting knocked up impulsively with teenage pregnancies.

    For the record, I’ve NEVER gone on Tinder.

    I don’t need a lecture on how I come across. I’m not “obsessed” with Hitler and I’m not a skinhead either, and I don’t appreciate you assuming that I am, which is very insulting to me. I already stand for Traditionalism, and I’m well aware that being a “White Nationalist” is not the same as being a “Nazi,” and all patterns of mannerism and behaviour that go with it. So that’s redundant to even mention to me. I’ve been racially conscious now for 20 years. I’m not recently awakened and I’ve been on a continuous journey tempering my views.

    The whole reason I came on White Date in the first place was to both find a good woman AND network with like-minded people, so your advice is again redundant as I’m already well aware and way ahead of you. I know how to carry myself. I’m merely venting my frustration about finding a woman here on this website. My complaint is if there aren’t going to be enough women on here to meet and/or date, why then even call it “White Date” if it’s really just a series of discussion forums between mostly men?

    I’m not in Europe…sadly I’m Canada. I’m a Canadian and I don’t have any financial means to travel or move to Europe. Frankly, I don’t want to, because it will be too much hassle for me needing to fill out legal paperwork for residency, find a new job, and having to learn another language. I’d rather be a true patriot as a nationalist and try still find something good in my own country. It’s also a lot easier geographically here to disappear off the grid, than in the continent of Europe.

    As much I’m sure you probably mean well, you should try and rethink you words of response. Everything you’ve said, I’ve already been informed and aware for a very long time. But I’m frankly a little insulted by you that you would make assumptions about me, when you don’t even know me or what I even look like. I’m not an idiot. I know what I must do.

    My post wasn’t pining for attention. And of course I’m depressed. Who isn’t!? Everyone is these days. We’re living in an “Iron Dark Age” of modernity. They don’t call the 21st century “The Lonely Century” for nothing. But I’m allowed to express my feelings.

    Again, not to take anger out on you, I’m sure you mean well, but next time please read a post more carefully and think more tactfully before you respond to someone.

    P.V.

    #14040
    Marcus
    Participant

    you said you are 40 have you tried the dating sites for older people, I am not in that category so don’t use them but I am sure those older women will be much more culturally conservative than what you would find on say tinder. I would also look into how you come across I have made a lot of white nationalist friends across Europe and the ones that end up the most successful are the ones that are not obsessed with Hitler and national socialism instead choosing to stand for the traditional life and rejecting materialism.

    You should also focus on your mental health when reading through your post in many areas it sounds like you are depressed, I would suggest getting involved in white nationalists groups and meeting up with them to socialise and make new friends with people who think like you. In Europe this should not be hard to do. you could also meet people on stormfront and gab which have huge white nationalist communities.

    and remember being a white nationalist is not about being a Nazi or any other political following it is grassroots building a home, building a family, home schooling your kids, taking to the streets with other white nationalists when needed, rejecting capitalism which pretends to be the opposite of Marxism and looking after your physical and mental health so the next generation knows what a strong male looks like.

    just to add also if you are still not having any luck in your country once you have everything in order maybe look at moving to central Europe places like Poland and Hungary they are very pro white.

    #14038
    Princep Vir
    Participant

    I don’t know if this is the right forum for me to commence engaging this topic, but it’s a bit personal on my experience thus far in trying to find “The Right One” or in another case my “True Love.”

    Since I was 12-13 years old, the seed had been planted and sown in me from a series of traumatic events with my family, change of education and living space that would blossom and confirm my ‘racial awakening’ to the blight and terror of psychological and physical genocide of our race. Since I was 16 years old, I also had a never-ending desire to find my True Love, the ideal woman I could fall in love with for the rest of my life, marry, sire children with me and grow old together.

    Sadly, that hasn’t happily come to pass. I’ve had the displeasure of being dumped twice by two ex-girlfriends. One of whom became both mentally ill and emotionally and mentally abusive and manipulative to me. Another who dumped me for their own nursing career. I have spent the last 8 years single, in search one last time for my ideal, complementary half from various mainstream dating websites, to in-person social events, etc. Again, all to no avail. I’m not perfect, but I’ve always tried to be a kind, caring, loyal, loving, thoughtful, considerate, decent and honorable man. I’ve never touched drugs, never smoked anything – including marijuana, never drank alcohol heavily or even eaten a ton of fast food. I’m clean, neat and tidy, keep a nice tidy house in order and even try to be responsible with my funds and have worked a full-time job for several years. I’ve managed to keep steadily independent for 16 years.

    But all that doesn’t seem to matter. Because I’m punished for being myself. I’m living in the wrong world, the wrong time period and the wrong universe. I’m living in a cold, evil, hateful world where – as the saying goes – “nice guys finish last.” Which is 100% BULLSHIT to me. It really means, “nice, genuine men in our ‘gynocentric/Communist/Europhobic’ society get nothing except to live and die alone in despair.” No matter how honest I be with myself, every woman I meet at the end is a bitch! Not one will be courteous enough to give me the time of the day, let alone the minute of the hour. If I’m lucky, I might score myself a friend or an acquaintance, but never a lover. I constantly feel like I’m being punished for being myself.

    My family doesn’t help much either. Some of them try to reassure me, while others project onto me what they would like me to be in the guise of me changing the person I am on the outside to be more “crowd pleasing” to women in general. I HATE THAT! It’s shallow and superficial and also hurtful for some of my family to tell me such ill advice like that. It only further diminishes my self-esteem and enforces a bad example. It’s basically telling me to pretend to be someone else in order to be likeable among other people – much less “popular”, and nobody should have to do that to find good attention from a woman. One should always be honest and true with themselves first and if other woman don’t like the man I sincerely am, they all just fuck off!

    Yet, I can’t help but feel as if there’s something wrong with me. Is it me, or am I just in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people? Since I’ve been on here at White Date, I have enjoyed exchanging similar points of view on ideology, meta-politics, culture and our struggle with other people in general, but that’s the secondary reason I signed up here. The primary reason I came here was to find TRUE LOVE. And also to find a White woman who not only would love me and accept me for who I am, but who shares by core beliefs and values, which is practically non-existent with any woman on a “mainstream” crappy dating website. But even here, there isn’t enough active interplay between women and men and the number of men on here far outnumber any of the women, and I’m primarily getting the same bad result as in the mainstream, which is no reply at all.

    I’m getting close to 40 years of age now, and I don’t want to cross over into middle age single and alone, or I feel it may be too late for me to find my “complementary half,” “my princess,” my one True Love and sire a family with children. That’s not a option I want for me. I don’t want to grow old and die alone unmarried and single, that’s horrifying to me. But what should I do? I’m fighting loneliness and despair of never finding a good woman for me just as much as I’m fighting despair and doubt about the will and capable outcome of our cause to preserve our race.

    I apologize for venting on here, but I need to get these feelings out of my system somehow. I hope it’s okay that I can do so in this particular forum.

    Thanks for listening…

    • This topic was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by Princep Vir. Reason: grammar and text
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