[Sigma]

Do you think we’ll have the numbers to survive that transition throughout the next 20 years?

[Sigma]

Cool cool 👍🏻. I stopped reading after you said you stopped reading.

[Leo]

@Sigma I immediately stopped reading your comment(s) after your suggestion that I’m ‘not smart enough,’ as if you’re somehow better than anybody else in this world, lol. Again, humble yourself. Nobody’s going to respect you if you’re not going to respect them in return. None of us are perfect, nor do any of us know everything, and there is there no reason to unnecessarily insult each other. That said, I did skim through and see a mention of blocking and/or proving a point if I were to moderate anything. I’m not going to abuse any Moderator permissions, no. My ego is not out of control, and my purpose as a Moderator is to protect our forum from outsiders, not ruin it from within. You’re welcome to express yourself however you wish, just as I already did, and I’m equally welcome to refrain from participating in this conversation with you any further.

[EastNordid]

Alright, it’s first time I hear about that study, usu. I am sceptical of those if they only have self-reported answers they’d have to include “stated preference vs actual preference” (be weary of the Hawthorne Effect on women).

>Women need men for procreation AND survival, men just need women for procreation.

Back in the day men had far more bargaining power, now women forego marriage because the state (taxpayers aka men) redistributes wealth to them and surprise surprise, women vote for more wealth redistribution and social programs to themselves.

>Women settle on looks in men because men settle on intelligence and emotional maturity in women. It’s a fair trade.

What did I just read? (lol) Men compromise on looks yet they get scrutinized for saying it in public (ofc it’s not a secret that men are visual creatures, and so are women too despite all the gaslighting coming from other women who say looks don’t matter).

If she genuinely cares about you and she’s scared of losing you (she believes she has no other options) then she won’t treat you as something disposable. Perceived mate value stems largely from scarcity (looks, aka genetic determinism), sth. that’s hard to come by. Back in the day women had more social controls placed over them as well as geographical limitations for their mates. Now 5/10 women get a taste of Chads far too easily which astronomically inflates their expectations. She then marries the 5-7/10 man they ignored in secondary school as a last resort against her will (his money and him being her emotional tampon) after they can’t get what they want as easily (Chad). It’s going to take generations to reverse the damage that’s been dealt and another 20 years to educate a new generation of youngsters.

[Sigma]

East. Here’s another point

They’ve done this test several times. They ask 4000 men and women “would you take a relationship where you get 80% of what you want”, the women laughed and said no way and the men said that was a great deal.

This is the true problem in full display. If men keep being nice and accommodating just to keep the peace, women will take advantage of that and move the goalposts on what genuine desire is for them. That’s why we should go off of what’s fair, not what’s desired.

What’s easy and feels good = hard times brought on by weak men.

Doing what’s right and fair and just, even though it doesn’t feel good = strong men fixing the world.

Right?

[Sigma]

East, here’s a way to look at it.

Only one is going to have genuine desire in the relationship and one is going to settle or the relationship won’t last.
Who should it be? And why?

I think it should be men because we are more important to society and forward development. Women need men for procreation AND survival, men just need women for procreation.
Men account for 97% of all work related deaths and injuries and hard jobs on earth.

[Sigma]

At this point we have to accept that women have been gassed up to believe they deserve more than is acceptable.

So your options become
1. Settle greatly just to get a woman.
(Who still might do all the things that women do to men they had genuine desire for, because desire fades, it’s called “the 5-7 year itch” in psychology.)
Modern day (women, men and children are suffering)

2. We abandon what gives women the tingles and we focus on duty and duty to the white race, and we restore a system that worked well for thousands of years. (Women can learn to love a man, it’s in their psychological makeup, they just can’t do it if they have other options).
Traditional, men women and children were happy and thriving 30% of women at the bottom started feminism

Which option?

This is where men try to offer women better options and those who can’t be taller or have more money use sound-good talk of equality etc etc

Personally I have seen women who were 7’s and not delusional and they were seeking a 7. That’s what I hope to find. I just understand those chances go up the more men are realistic with women on what their options were so we can all stop playing this dumb game.

Women settle on looks in men because men settle on intelligence and emotional maturity in women. It’s a fair trade.

(I’m definitely interested in feedback thanks)

[EastNordid]

@Sigma @Leo
My two cents: there are enough examples of women claiming to be ns/alt-right/dr, infiltrating these spaces they’ll first drop off a generic anti-immigration or jq statement or two but when reversing the second/third let alone first wave feminist legislation is brought up then the kvetching starts. This is why the tireless vetting for dishonorable individuals (White women aren’t exempt from that, they’re not infallible angelic creatures), lurking crypto-feminists and undercover journos (activists) lies within us.

If she doesn’t feel genuine desire (genuine attraction) then what’s the point of being with a woman who doesn’t even feel physically attracted to you? That’s precisely what has led to married couples having dead bedrooms, her using you as a walking ATM, using you as an emotional tampon. Believing that it’s a monogamous relationship when it’s a de-facto open relationship and men are still willing to put up with that treatment in the hopes of getting laid.

• This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by EastNordid.

[Sigma]

Male feminist not fake*.

And just because someone has lots of knowledge in one department doesn’t mean they think they know everything. That’s a straw man argument. There’s so much wrong with what you said.

I would say half of the female profiles I’ve read from here say they are redpill themselves, obviously they are not feminist only 1/4 of women now identify as feminist. So even women agree with what men are saying……..they just don’t like that last unspoken bit of it. Real men speak the truth. Boys tell women what they want to hear. Am I right or wrong?

[Sigma]

Leo,
Here I’ll ask another question.

Is there a difference between fake feminists who voted for women’s rights in the beginning and went along with the Jew agenda just to appease women in hopes of earning points and getting sexual attention from women…..and men who claim to be national socialists men but do the same thing?

Because weak men like that is how we got in this position in the first place. Do you understand this?

Ps, banning me will just prove I’m right. I hope you learn from this. Stop turning on your fellow man just to try and further yourself. Be humble and admit your mistake here and become better, not worse. I’m genuinely trying to help you right now.

[Sigma]

Leo. So you don’t understand how I set it up and the heart of the question I posed I take it. Shall I explain it further ? If I asked “are cats and dogs the same?” Obviously they are not, it the simplicity of the question that hints there is a commonality they share….being animals or house pets, or domesticated etc etc. I don’t want to assume you’re stupid but I can’t help and notice that you are either not smart enough to grasp the way I brought a commonality into the light or you are being obtuse. Which is it? Funny how you didn’t address a single thing about my point in the commonality between ns women and feminist.

Are you going to take this opportunity to learn or block/kick me ?

Do you know women can’t be men? Why not just let everyone be the way they are by your own logic?

How about you just realize this isn’t an opportunity to earn points and simp for the ladies. Do you really want to have this conversation and learn or did you think this was your moment?

And in good faith like a proper white man I’ll answer your question, yes, I do think I know everything about women, it’s not rocket science. Are there any questions you’d like to ask to evaluate/test this?

[Leo]

My question is, why do so many of you think you know what is best for everybody else, and/or think that you know everything about every person of either gender? Do you genuinely think you’re omniscient, flawless in every way? Do you really think you know everything about all women, as a man? Perhaps spend some quality time humbling yourself and realize that you, me, and everybody else are imperfect and would benefit enormously from respecting and learning from others.

Regarding your thread name, questioning whether feminists and social nationalist women are the same, the answer lies in your question: if you’re using separate words (feminism vs national socialism), representing separate ideas, then obviously they are not the same – or else you would have used the same word (feminism vs feminism), asking whether feminists were feminists. How silly does that seem, to you?

[Sigma]

I don’t care about genuine desire lol.
But I don’t reward “nice guys finish” last behavior. They’ll have to be MORE attractive and settle more or share me with other women. I suggest all men stop building society for them.

[Sigma]

So you’re saying our ns women are no better than feminists who are tools for the Jew to kill off the white race?!?!!! 😤. That’s sad because they act like they’re different.

[EastNordid]

Men learn to deal with loneliness from an early age, it’s second nature to them meanwhile women are the biggest consumers of antidepressants. It’s like women can’t tolerate being lonely. This loneliness eventually makes a good chunk of +30 yo women (with a bodycount more than you can count with one hand) settle against their will (for emotional & financial reasons) but it still won’t be genuine desire, resulting in dead bedrooms. They know they can’t get chads (anymore). Nowadays women are more open with their promiscuity, on the other hands other women want to keep their past hidden for reputational/ damage control. Just my two cents: women with dogmatic political leanings who spend a lot of time in dissident right circles tend to be, let’s say emotionally cold and calculating. Always pay attention to her actions and don’t get fixated on labels. Remember the Hawthorne Effect.

[Sigma]

I want to know how national socialist women feel about settling and Hypergamy?

Most women today say they would rather die miserable and alone than settle (date a guy in their league). They all want to date up to the point that 63% of men are single and only 34% of women are single……..that means 29% of women are just getting used by a very small percentage of men.

Do national socialist women play this same dumb game?

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