[Wakstar]

Yes, I’ve been dedicated to a ketogenic/low carb diet for 7 + years. I’ve fallen off the wagon a few times as my diet leaned more towards carnivore than keto and fell into the mind trap of deprivation.

I’m big into fermenting and enjoy my own water and milk kefir, kombucha, and bacteria specific dairy ferments. Considering there’s a lot of fresh produce out there, I’m planning on stocking up on some homemade veggie ferments in addition to my sauerkraut staple. If you can find organic heirloom produce, that is a major score!

Depending upon many factors, a more moderate approach might be Paleo. Pete Evans has got some great cookbooks that are beautiful as well as intended to promote health. He really got demonized several years back. I hope he’s still flourishing.

If you want to learn more about gut health, I recommend Dr. William Davis “Super Gut.” He also wrote “Wheat Belly” so that may be where you recognize his name.

Regardless of your dietary worldview, doing every to rebuild your microbiome is key. Some key tenants are: fresh, local, seasonal, and as true to form as possible. Taking your time to eat (chew, chew, chew) and ensuring that the environment of which you eat is equally important. You could be eating the most nutrient dense meal and will not derive the maximal benefit if you are rushed or in a negative environment.

Happy eating 🙂

[Aster]

Don’t worry, I’m just kidding around a lot. I agree, a lot of it is interesting. I’m just taking things lightly here.
My liver burgers did have ground chuck in them too; I didn’t quite master them though, haha.

[Anonymous]

Aster I hope its also a joke to feel sorry about referring to ancient aliens, I find it relevant and interesting, I think it’s important,for myself at least, to find people with whom I can speak freely, or at least more freely. I’m way into metaphysics and parapsychology from non religious perspective. As far as I’m concerned its all on the table, like why is there this perfect food animal, the cow, that gives us everything. Humans as herders perhaps. As Douglas Adams jokes, “Who is this God Person, Anyway?”

Yeah those burgers are I think chuck, liver and heart. The trouble it seems is buying so little liver you can eat it and not get sick of it, need a local organ meat group I guess. Maybe you could sell your local butcher on selling them

Whatever you do dont make burgers out just liver, woah.

I find I really need to cook them thoroughly, and that one is almost too much.

I go through phases with chocolate. My favorite is mint chip ice cream for some reason. Why on earth would I like green frozen cream from cows milk? With dark chocolate shavings?! Must be an evolutionary memory. Could be the food the aliens gave us in the electromagnetic dome bases when we were first being gmo’d, or perhaps a culinary technology we remember from another planet..

[Aster]

I don’t eat liver haha. But you’re making me hungry talking about it! I’m so sick of chocolate at the moment, give me a heart and liver patty! I’m sure they make it more palatable than how I used to make liver burgers 😬

[Aster]

I’m very sorry I made the ancient aliens joke, but, you can’t disprove it! Haha Or maybe you can haha

I think things like Hamer’s “German New Medicine” and more subconscious ways of looking at health are trending lately.
Great thoughts. There are lots of possibilities and ways of being.
And sometimes the possible isn’t always probable (like veganism cough cough).

Strong beliefs play into so much, but I think as time goes by, and beyond this lifetime, consciousness continues to expand, so breakthroughs will happen at some point.

[Anonymous]

Aster I think you’re right on having tentative working hypothesis.

To me, there seems to be the question of what works, and then also this continual path of improvement toward more subtle aspects of life.

Even with this, I say, it seems, hah

Like with the question of whether we’re ancient aliens from somewhere else, or perhaps genetically modified by ancient aliens, all I say is it’s a fascinating subject. What are human origins, are all the races from different places or modified by different groups from proto humans.

Even whether all consciousness, you, I, a frog, are on a path toward the ultimate, or if we all exist in a contained vessel like Sophia’s dreaming, the mind of God, I sense we’ll get breakthroughs in those sorts of questions in our lifetime.

And simply having a strong belief one way or another, maybe it makes it so, one way or another.

It seems like anything repeated with enough confidence, energy, from within or outside, will become our truth, and that the sensation of truth is indistinguishable from truth itself.

Like with me, I seem to digest beef best, I also eat other things, bread, dairy, when I get to chicken I enjoy it but get tired of it. There are these burgers with heart and liver here made by the butcher, I know I “should” eat liver but its so easy to eat too much and then not want it for a long time.

Same with most supplements. I take one, get too queasy and they’re sitting up on my shelf in a box.

I wonder about vegans sometimes. Are they all really starving, perhaps most are. Maybe with some people their gene expression changes.

There was a doctor in Japan, dr smile and it wont hurt you, apparently people who had a good mindset didnt get sick from radiation.

I think about that so much with the phones and emf sensitivity

[Aster]

I would venture to say that the mind and subconscious mind are more powerful than most diets, supplements, medicines, and more, but I would also say that many of my notions are theoretical and/or taken or derived from others lol. It’s always great to find something that works for oneself though.

[Aster]

Thanks for the info. I definitely value meat, meat and also chocolate lol. I just want to counteract meat’s villainization and the current disregard for it in our society. And as you said, subconscious beliefs are a huge deal, affecting physical health.

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Aster,

I just watched the video. It’s great and I agree with it.

Clearly humans didn’t have synthesized ascorbic acid and we ate meat to be well.

In todays era, I think ascorbic acid is a good tool to deal with inflammatation that is safer than drugs.

Here’s a video from Cathcart, one of the pioneers

My sense is that healthy people eating healthy animal products will likely not need ascorbic acid, but that if you’re lax in your diet, exposed to toxins or taking prescription drugs, it’s probably a benign tool to deal with the increased toxins,

I havent become convinced that ascorbic acid mixed with water will create collateral damage if used as a tool like this, taking more or less as needed taking enough c to be symptom free, as Andrew Saul (doctoryourself.com) says, but I could imagine people being out of touch with their body and taking it mechanically could cause themselves problems.

I eat so much beef, and also barefoot walk, I likely don’t need ascorbic acid (and don’t take it every day). But when I’m feeling like I’m coming down with something (which i rare now that I started eating so much meat), i take the c and it makes it go away.

If anyone doesn’t know vit c to bowel tolerance, i posted a link in an above comment, but its vit c powder mixed well dissolved in water (a lot of stirring until water is clear), and sipped until one gets rumbling in the stomach. If you take too much it causes diarrhea, which is temporary because you took the water mixed version instead of capsules, which produce these effects when taken in excess, but delayed

Its a tool, a skill to learn to use how to feel your body when you’ve had enough, you sneak up on it, and it resolves colds and other ailements

I think most important is people’s beliefs. If you have strong beliefs against vit c, dont take it. Because the subconscious mind, imo, mediates way more than most realize. I trained in PSYCH-K, one method of working with subconscious, others use EFT or other somatic tools, it influences so much how you react to things.

[Aster]

And I was just thinking, it’s always possible we could be part ancient alien, and that’s why some Euro populations are so tall lol

[Aster]

Hi Sonnenbaum,
I do hear about vitamin C to bowel tolerance occasionally, but I just don’t know enough of the details, and am kind of wary of supplements sometimes.
Did you watch the first 5 or 10 minutes of the video I linked? I didn’t even watch the full video, but it’s interesting when he talked about the form of ascorbic acid found in meat that’s absorbed thousands of times more easily than vitamin C. And then he talks about other antioxidants that humans might prefer and that are less reactive, like glutathione.

Niacinamide gave me bleakness, but that’s interesting that it or niacin can do the opposite.

I read that the tallest European populations have used dairy, or maybe drink milk, the heaviest, and dairy does assist in growth, growth factors, nutrition… so there’s that. And normally, cold climates could shorten people’s limbs to help with heat retention.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your response Aster!

Yeah, personally I havent had an issue with the c, everyones different though.

This is my reference point
http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

I get my folks to to take it regulary, powder mixed with water, seems to have improved their health

As for niacinamide, I stick with niacin for what seems to be a mood repair reset with the flush, and use it as needed, not every day, and I agree sometimes I take it and I feel awful. Its been a tool for to get out of a feeling of bleakness for me.

Was a favorite tool of the founder of AA

As for dairy, or whether we were already tall, yeah I’m unsure about dairy, i sense it might be unnecessary, but its certainly a traditional food

I’d emphasize how ever food that was traditional, was alive, whether it be raw veg, aging meat, ferments of all sorts

I think thats the key, is to have food with vitality in it

My understandingg of vit c is its an electron donor, neutralizing toxins if we understand toxins to function as removing electrons.

And barefoot walking, earthing, working on same principle, donating electrons

Some thoughts good to be talking with you

[Aster]

The one common denominator for a healthy diet, for me, is some meat or at least well-tolerated animal products. A lot of other minor things are sort of relative or in moderation, and there is so much contradictory stuff in the health sphere! Even vitamin C

And niacin might be great for most, but when I’ve taken niacinamide before at the smallest dose, I felt horrible.

And I thought the reason why some European populations are so tall or big was because of dairy consumption, and that came with the steppe/Indo-European cattle herders I think. And/or the steppe herders were already tall (maybe because of dairy consumption).

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[Anonymous]

I’ve been eating a lot of dry brined chuck roast seared mostly raw and other fatty meats, bread without seed oils, bananas, some carrots, eggs, and apples.. i’m by no means strict with my diet, but I find I’m more stable physiologically when I eat a lot of high quality animal products. I also use vitamin c to bowel tolerance and niacin as needed via instructions from doctor yourself dot com, probiotics including l reuteri. Coffee with half and half.

Salt and fat i think are essential, recently i started buying salt cut offs from butcher, very cheap, dry brining and grilling them, they’re strong and rich, a different kind of beef jerky almost

I like chicken but i only have it occasionally

I think high quality alcohol is fine, i prefer hard kombucha, the book the drawing of the dark by tim powers, fantasy novel with arthur and merlin, about brew as central to european consciousness, is interesting to me, i dont have hard alcohol

I think high quality tobacco, organic whole leaf from leaf only or cigar, is an interesting tool to be used sparingly or moved on from

[Heidinn]

I think our diet was originally very animal based. Unlike the other races that relied on carbs, we stuck to hunting and cattle for a vast period of time due to the shorter growing season. This may be on the the reasons why we are so much bigger on average.
This also means we are accustomed to some fasting too, and referring to Tacitus’ account on ancient Germania, we are big, accustomed to the cold and handle fasts easily.
Since we were such prolific sailors also influenced our diet to include seafood, shellfish and specifically cod liver oil.

[Anonymous]

The Inuit lead a naturally ketogenic diet, and even they don’t stay in keypads. You would have to go back to the last ice age, which ended 10,000 years ago to find Europeans who lived this lifestyle. Ands if we’re talking genetics, western hunter gatherers we’re mostly pushed aside by Neolithic farmers from Asia Minor. You mainly find their genetic imprint remains in the Baltic people and Nordic/Scandinavians, where for whatever reason the invading Indo European pastoralists allowed WHG men and womento continue to breed (whereas in Western Europe they largely displaced the men of the Neolithic farmers, but took their women).

When I did paleo and hung out with people that did paleo, nobody was doing it right. You need to eat more of the small fish whole, like sardines. Not just muscle and bone broth of the cow and chicken, but the blood, the brains, the liver, the heart and tongue.

In short I disagree that the European’s diet is ketogenic. We have the largest percentage of lactase persistence in the world. After doing paleo, I thought I was lactose intolerant. Until I tried raw milk and raw cheese. It is the true nectar off the gods. I am far stronger and muscular now follow nourishing traditions principles than I ever was on the paleo diet, despite the fact that I am now 10-15 years older. Look up what they ate in the Lötschental Valley in the 1920’s, they were cut off from the modern world. You’ll see what Europeans have eaten for the last 8000 years.

[Anonymous]

Keto diet is great. Combine it with intermittent fasting and results are exponential
I am lately interesting in mushrooms. Since it-s not easy not find them freshly available on the market for now i get them from supplements but I would be very interested in raising them or find a producer nearby.
What kind of supplements do you take if any?

[Anonymous]

Ommmg how impressive :O congratulatiiiion to you and your brother !! Keep going 💪🏻💪🏻
Yes exactly it’s about health ! And while getting healthier you engender the loss of the excess of fat.

[Curious but Cautious]

I’ve been on a keto diet for around 8 months now, and I lost around 80lbs on it so far. I’m on track to dip below 200lbs for the first time since mid teens probably.
I’m doing it with a brother of mine, who has similarly lost the same relative weight, only slightly behind my own weightloss and he’s also doing better than ever. (Yet nobody else in the family cares to do it, despite half of them suffering with what I perceive to be conditions that the diet would benefit).
It’s not about the weightloss, it’s about returning to health. The weightloss is a great side benefit though.

[Anonymous]

Yes the Hunter/Gatherer diet would have been ketogenic because they would have gotten most of their calories from meat and fat. The only person I know who did a keto diet was both terrible and disgusting at it (basically using it as an excuse to eat the most processed, fatty foods) so from what I have seen I didn’t like it haha. My problem with it is the very high percentage of calories that must come from fat; it is just not appetizing to me.
I try to just eat a balanced diet while being aware of carb intake and preferring protein, and I very rarely eat out or buy pre-prepared (processed) foods.

[Anonymous]

That’s great that you eat this way, and I agree with what you say.
I don’t eat corn and don’t like it anymore anyway, too sweet for me now.

[Anonymous]

I have been following my own dietary plans and essentially I try to eat foods that my ancestors would have access to in their ethno-geographical area. I am ethnically Welsh and Norman-French. I find new world plants such as corn are horrible for many European people. I feel that many people are able to tolerate these diets but eventually it catches up to them. Our systems are reliant on gut bacteria and things like High Fructose Corn Syrup is unnatural in large amounts, our ancestors did not eat corn, let alone the one soda containing more Fructose sugar than our ancestors would eat in a year!

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t surprise to see that you ancestors food were ketogenic as well : )

[WhiteMan]

It’s a very interesting topic. My current thinking, for my genetics, As Scottish-Irish (American), is my ancestors must have eaten fish and vegetables, with some birds and eggs. All organic of course.
I’ll have a look at your links, thanks for posting them.

[Anonymous]

After many researches and reflections, I’ve realised that actually whites original diet is the ketogenic one.
Anybody here following this lifestyle ?

[Author]

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