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[Ted]

@AeonKnight

Churchill was a piece of shit on many levels. From likely ordering the Dresdan firebombing, helping the USSR at every turn, initiating civilian bombing on Germany to provoke retaliatory bombing on his citizens, childishly reveling in war glory, etc. Nevertheless, I think his 1920’s quote concisely and precisely describes what’s going on with these online leftists; “arrested development”, “envious malevolence”, “Impossible equality”. I find these descriptions poetically sharp.

Funny enough, in the 1950’s Churchill campaigned for the office of prime minster on the slogan “Keep Britain White”, and wrote about how the cause of the war had been Germany cutting the international bankers out of their profits. Yeah, he sold out the White Race for help with his personal debts, but I think because of his proximity to the power behind the throne, he saw post-war what the 2000’s would hold for British demographics, and it scared him.

It’s much more compelling when it’s framed as “Only National Socialists oppose these things”.

[AeonKnight]

@Ted

Churchill was one of the biggest traitors the White race has ever had: he knew absolutely everything about the Jews and wanted to annihilate the entire German people simply for economic dominance. And by that I mean only his own — he knew very well Britain would lose their empire after an Axis defeat, so you can’t even call him a short-sighted patriot. He sold his own nation and killed millions of Whites just for money and cigars.

On Thomas Sewell: their activism also included pointing out that ONLY the NatSocs are taking a position against paedophilia, otherwise it wouldn’t be as effective for the normie, I forgot to type that on my response. The average man sees even the conservative parties globally defending gay propaganda, immigration and child abuse, and doesn’t know where to take refuge and protect his family. Tom just presented them with the wide-open arms of Fascism. Even the dumbest of normies will at least find it curous that no-one is actively against child sexualisation.

Take care!

[Ted]

@AeonKnight

I think it’s partially about rebelling against nature: the tyranny of not getting to choose the circumstances of your birth. It’s partially a rebellion of the weak: using collectivism to elevate the losers and lower the winners (an evolved weakling survival strategy). However, there’s another aspect: being repressed by the system, feeling like a loser because of it, wanting to rebel, but having the system direct you against it’s approved targets.

There’s a related Winston Churchill quote I find clarifying:
“This movement among the Jews is not new… This world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing… It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century.”

LOL, Thomas’ Wikipedia entry is “Thomas Sewell (Australian Neo-Nazi)”. I still feel the old circuitry activate; upon reading the words, a flash of being confronted with the thing I was conditioned to fear, the rush to instantly judge and be repelled. I still get that even though I spent hours today imagining how I’d help the NSDAP if I could go to the past.

It’s hard to top “It’s okay to be White”; you know it’s good when a slogan gets effectively outlawed. Admittedly, that one has been somewhat countered with professional cope, enough to justify crackdowns at least.

Something like “Pedophile or National Socialist” probably works better for courageous people who’ve had enough of the obnoxious bullying. People want to be against child grooming, but they don’t want to afix themselves to a label that (to them) means “Strict genocidal militant who wants to conquer the world due to their character defects”. If by leftist overuse the label gets appended with +”who protects childhood innocence”, I wouldn’t expect that to rehabilitate it sufficiently for normie adoption. (could help neutralize it though)

“That is pure liberal/POC/Judaic projection, because it’s what they would do if they had power”
Hard to argue with the USSR’s track record.

For years now I’ve thought “I have more evidence than I can simultaneously memorize, now I just need to organize it, condense it, and optimize it for consumption by the people I know”. Keeps on not happening, and I keep failing to persuade. I think researching this stuff might be habit forming. Some is essential, too much is counter productive.

Kind regards

[AeonKnight]

@Ted

“Part of what makes this influence so intense is terminally online losers that desperately crave power, but rationalize that they’re fighting injustice”

That is “How To Create A Useful Idiot 101” haha. They crave power and control as a payback to reality/Nature, but also need to psychologically justify themselves out of their own agency due to slave-morality. The true “tyranny of the weak”.

“to hear that the enemy figure was actually nice, sensible, articulate, and motivated by love of his own, it planted a seed in my mind.”

It’s why they censor in the first place: they could not win any open discussion. Thomas Sewell from Australia has actually tapped into that in a very clever way: not just pointing it out, but showing the rift that the left itself has carved between normality and what they want. One of his slogans was something akin to “you are either a paedophile or a National Socialist”, which makes some “advanced” realisations readily apparent to normies and connecting the dots of what they can plainly see in their communities. You don’t want tranny story-hour or compulsory race-mixing sex education for your kids? You must be a Nazi! And people are realising that NatSocs really are the most normal thing one can be.

“Thus “they’re retreating” has to be converted somehow into “they want to kill everybody” ”

That is pure liberal/POC/Judaic projection, because it’s what they would do if they had power.

Also, thanks for sharing your personal story; I have a hard time getting into the truth of most subjects with normies (and even semi-normies) because the evidence is so monumental it’s hard to know where to begin. As Warren Balogh from the NJP once said: “there is no elevator pitch for National Socialism”, unfortunately, only hundreds of thousands of pages in historical documents.

Cheers!

[Ted]

AeonKnight makes a very trenchant point that left-wing people don’t come to their positions by reasoning. As a former hard leftist, it’s my personal experience, and my observation of many others, that leftism comes from government education scaring children with propaganda followed by propaganda in news and entertainment that they’ll consume through adulthood.

I fell out around 2013, I’m sure curated big-tech platforms are now a significant part of it. By creating an environment where the heritics will be shunned, and you can get labeled a heretic for very little, people are driven into fear-based conformity. Part of what makes this influence so intense is terminally online losers that desperately crave power, but rationalize that they’re fighting injustice, looking to destroy strangers for fun. It’s these unpaid and unwitting commissars that take the group think to a new level, and this accelerates the other traditional propaganda outlets.

Anonymous #19309 wanted to talk solutions.

Being nice:
One thing that was influential to me was the first time I read a post by a KKK guy, and he explained that he didn’t violently hate other people (the aforementioned government-funded childhood conditioning message), he just wanted a space for his people and like-minded members of his race to have their own separate community in accordance with their traditions and preferences. As a liberal, I was expecting a rabid hate monster, to hear that the enemy figure was actually nice, sensible, articulate, and motivated by love of his own, it planted a seed in my mind.

A scare-article I saw years ago about Dr. David Duke warned of the insidious racist tactic of “being nice”, which suggests it’s a tricky tactic to counter.

Around 2017, there was a big media push to equate “white nationalism” and “white supremacy”. That’s because White people just wanting their own space somewhere to be White people is really hard for the liberal mentality to object to. Thus “they’re retreating” has to be converted somehow into “they want to kill everybody”.

This isn’t foolproof of course. I spend a fair amount of time with blue-state baby boomers who watch MSNBC religiously. At a party I spoke to an old dentist about letting the rightwing people have their own separate country. He was only barely juggered by the live-and-let-live notion, and shortly concluded that we have to crush the conservatives anyways because gay people might be born in conservative areas and thereby be repressed.

[AeonKnight]

Trying to convince the left that right-wing ideas are better presupposes that ideas are the main factor, or even a factor at all, to the positions they hold. The viability of an organism’s existence has priority over ideas. The left biologically cannot adopt a Natural-Law/eugenic worldview, because they would not be able to compete in that paradigm. Pointing out liberal contradiction/bad ideas is valid if it’s done with normies/people on the fence (or maybe the international community, in a legislative sense) as your target audience, not the liberal individual you’re debating. It’s not your ideas they hate — it’s YOU.

Regards.

[Anonymous]

There are of course going to be some who say “who cares?” when one brings up the left and their place in our future world but the reality is that what we see today is not what our left should look like.
Cast your mind back to 100 years ago and look at the left then. They saw the scourge of mass migration before the right did arguably. They saw and articulated the decline that would occur and were laughed at. That is the left we should desire to bring back
If we do not want the migrant then we will have to accept a white working class and that is a sacrifice I believe we need to make and we will need a left to ensure they are not left behind when we prosper

Big question is-What can we do to turn the left more to our side?

I have a few answers

1.Reframe mass migration to them

In other words we need to find a way to make mass migration unappealing to the left without triggering them. This I believe can be done by exploiting their other sacred cows namely climate change and racism. Tell them that more migrants will lead to overpopulation(don’t mention our plans to significantly raise more whites) and a worsening climate play on any data you can find here we just need them to question. Racism is a more tricky subject to discuss as we must take care not to trigger their inbuilt defences instead point to examples of non-white strife and let them connect the dots for us. Not perfect but for most of the left we will only need ambivalence not support. Another option for Americans here is to use the plight of the Native and point out that slavery led to many of the Natives being forced of their lands

2.Reframe pro-nativist policies

This is mostly to do with my own country. This may not apply to yours. What we need to do here is both simple and difficult. We need the left to not realise as we raise white births and decrease others. What we need here is mainly a good anchor ideally a white minority whose numbers are in decline (Ideal for convincing them. The situation there makes me sick as often white minorities end up supporting the replacement of the majority not realising they’re next on the chopping block) and suggest policies to help raise their numbers(naturally).Then when this policy becomes successful we can pass it to the majority area and frame it as the enlightened minority showing us the way

3.Foreign Policy

Do either of us like Israel?. No most likely and that is a good first step. The next step is to make some limited sacrifices on other points and put those into action. If increasing foreign aid for a few years could bring our future closer by decades should we really disagree or should we use that to it’s potential?. Another useful idea here links to migration we could easily use foreign squabbles to evacuate whites and resettle them here begin moving them to ethnic neighbourhoods and increase policing when the inevitable happens. I hate the idea of using them as a sacrificial lamb but it may help further turn the left to our cause (just my cold heart).We could also use the trouble diasporas cause to our advantage thought it would take a better man than me to articulate how that could be done without triggering their racism alarm

4.Our own

Some of our own may sin or may get a little too impatient for our journey to be completed. Here our stance must be one of overwhelming force. At the time we must be seen to be outraged and come down hard on such things and leave no room for doubt that we condemn the action. Later we can re-evaluate our stances when the left’s eye is elsewhere

Those are just some of my thought regarding the issue. Add any that you think may apply to your country and yes I am going to a right-wing follow up I would appreciate if everyone realises that it is just my opinion.

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