[EastNordid]

@Dean_Leon, @Uli
The ”biological norm” for a woman was about ~seven pregnancies in the pre-industrial world and harsh Darwinian selection pressure ”culled” (for the lack of a better term) 40%-50% of children (with weak immune systems) before they’d reach their first/fifth birthday, before the advent of antibiotics and improved hygiene practices etc. So out of five children, three would make it past their fifth birthday.

Sth. I’ve noticed in the Alt-media/or the ”Dissident Right” for some time is you have these commentators(gullible/grifters/bad-faith actors) who LOVE to stress the importance of making more people sympathetic to nationalism, “stopping the Great Replacement” and “Reclaiming our countries”. Yet at the same time these same commentators don’t believe that this “right to self-determination of Whites” should be extended to Ukrainians and they will very often deny Ukrainians their statehood as well as demonize Ukrainian nationalism, ignore the Kremlin importing infinity Central Asians to Mariupol which IS literal forced replacement, or even deny their past genocides (Holodomor) and be at least silent when Russian gov’t advisors (like Alexander Dugin) call openly for new ones against Ukrainians (like what Dugin said back in 2014 when he was asked as professor, what Russia should do with the militarily occupied Crimea and Donbas).

So you admit the Reconquista was absolutely necessary (which I do agree with) because that was a non-White invasion against the European continent. Without the Battle of Tours or Defence of Vienna the future of Europe would’ve taken another direction.

I’m going to say this again: the only party that wants war (in Ukraine) is Putin (he GRAVELY underestimated how much Ukrainians were willing to resist his botched invasion attempt) and his fellow KGB cronies or they’ll face politcal & literal physical suicide, the ones who are showing restraint are the fence-sitting Western “leaders” (who don’t actually want to see Russia collapse, by sending just enough weapons with massive restrictions attached (this war would be far shorter if they wouldn’t be such fence-sitters) meanwhile the Muscovites do as they please, they haven’t changed their ways since medieval times).
Western countries cannot just force Ukraine to “give up land” because their constitution prevents it without a countrywide referendum and a majority of Ukrainians are fiercely nationalistic and will not accept anything short of the borders of 1992 and decent security guarantees (aka de-facto nuclear status (so Russia will never attempt an invasion again)). When the right day comes all diaspora Ukrainians have to go back to fullfil their duty of rebuilding their home no matter what. It’s a matter of principle even if the living standards aren’t on par with other European countries.

I’ll address the whole deal with Zelensky: back in 2019 he was the complete opposite, he wanted to sell the occupied territories to Putin and there’s a video of him telling Azov to drop their weapons and accept a ceasefire with the Kremlin-backed terrorists and Azov just stood there promptly told Zelensky to screw himself bcs they had been defending their country since 2014. Governments change, but the SOIL below one’s feet doesn’t change.
I know people in the Alt-media will say accuse Azov of being jewish since it was funded by the jewish oligarch Ihor Kolomisky. Kolomoisky funded different groups for his own personal security and prob. to increase those Aliyah numbers.

(For anyone reading this I’ll recommend dissident creator Vigilante Intelligence’s three-part documentary “Is Putin the savior of the White race?” (No, Putin is against nationalism bcs it’d have a destructive effect on his multiracial neo-bolshevist empire, people on the Dissident Right are surprised to learn Russia has more muslims than Sweden and Germany combined.Lol)

A lot of people in the Alt-media are highly demoralized I think this has to do with them first discovering the JQ (it’s become a sort of a truism in these circles that they are omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent in every single node of power at ALL times) and it robs them of their sense of agency thus making them overall blackpilled defeatist etc. Like I said this is child’s play now compared to the future when there’s not going to be a parliamentary way out of this,demographically speaking.

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@Archtraitor There’s this one image floating around titled ”Germany is shrinking” showing on the left-hand side the German Empire/Deutches Reich(1971-1943/45) with its 1914 borders and all of its minorities looking to secede at any point. On the right-hand side, the FRG and the largest foreign diasporas are shown at the county level.

What we’re now seeing in the first half of this century is child’s play compared what’s ahead of us in the sixties/seventies/eighties and so forth. A lot of people in these kind of spaces are jaded with politcians and electoral politics (esp. the Anglosphere with the majoritarian system) etc. and believe ”the grass is greener on the other side”.
What I’m saying is this whole ”retreating away society” is an escapist fantasy. I believe in Continental Europe or Eastern Europe (with proportional representation which makes it easier for (smaller) nationalist parties advocating for mass deportation to attain institutional power), hey someone has to get the ball rolling.

@Uli War inherently belongs to the Man’s World. Let me quote Herodotus ’Histories’ book 8 chapter 144: ”The Athenians explain to the Spartans that there is not enough “gold anywhere in the world” to bribe them into betraying “the Grecian race” by allying with the invading Persians to “enslave Greece.”

I’ll explain this differently: The Iberian Peninsula was more or less occupied by Arab-Moors for almost 800 years, imagine if I went to Spain and told nationalist Spaniards that their ancestors should never have started the Reconquista in order to liberate the Iberian Peninsula just because ”men will die fighting for a piece of land (aka their homeland)” or that they shouldn’t be proud of their ancestors’ victory and sacrifices in the Spanish Civil War (which is still a huge embarrassment to the Spanish left).

The Ukraine War was a perfect opportunity to argue in favor of (Blood and Soil) nationalism as a force for good in the West esp. when there is a blatant and proven genocide of White Ukrainian women and children by the vehemently anti-White neo-bolshevik Kremlin regime** targetting civilians. Their home is being invaded/ the land on which they have lived on. The women’s responsibility is to return back to their home country and have big families.

** The Kremlin regime has always been hostile toward White nationalists (unlike what gullible people in the Alt-media space believe esp. in the Anglosphere) they are either imprisoned, killed or are in exhile and will not stop their resistance until the Kremlin regime is gone, starting from Kursk. We Eastern European countries remember our history (Finland could be seen as being situated in Eastern Europe in my opinion) and we have bad experiences with our Eastern neighbor and modern Germans must never forget what Muscovites did to them 80 years ago!

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We now have managers instead of leaders like back in the day.

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Don’t take the data in the study at face value. Actions over words, always. Brain scans tell the opposite story but those results won’t be featured in the study for obv. reasons.

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Alright, it’s first time I hear about that study, usu. I am sceptical of those if they only have self-reported answers they’d have to include “stated preference vs actual preference” (be weary of the Hawthorne Effect on women).

>Women need men for procreation AND survival, men just need women for procreation.

Back in the day men had far more bargaining power, now women forego marriage because the state (taxpayers aka men) redistributes wealth to them and surprise surprise, women vote for more wealth redistribution and social programs to themselves.

>Women settle on looks in men because men settle on intelligence and emotional maturity in women. It’s a fair trade.

What did I just read? (lol) Men compromise on looks yet they get scrutinized for saying it in public (ofc it’s not a secret that men are visual creatures, and so are women too despite all the gaslighting coming from other women who say looks don’t matter).

If she genuinely cares about you and she’s scared of losing you (she believes she has no other options) then she won’t treat you as something disposable. Perceived mate value stems largely from scarcity (looks, aka genetic determinism), sth. that’s hard to come by. Back in the day women had more social controls placed over them as well as geographical limitations for their mates. Now 5/10 women get a taste of Chads far too easily which astronomically inflates their expectations. She then marries the 5-7/10 man they ignored in secondary school as a last resort against her will (his money and him being her emotional tampon) after they can’t get what they want as easily (Chad). It’s going to take generations to reverse the damage that’s been dealt and another 20 years to educate a new generation of youngsters.

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@Sigma @Leo
My two cents: there are enough examples of women claiming to be ns/alt-right/dr, infiltrating these spaces they’ll first drop off a generic anti-immigration or jq statement or two but when reversing the second/third let alone first wave feminist legislation is brought up then the kvetching starts. This is why the tireless vetting for dishonorable individuals (White women aren’t exempt from that, they’re not infallible angelic creatures), lurking crypto-feminists and undercover journos (activists) lies within us.

If she doesn’t feel genuine desire (genuine attraction) then what’s the point of being with a woman who doesn’t even feel physically attracted to you? That’s precisely what has led to married couples having dead bedrooms, her using you as a walking ATM, using you as an emotional tampon. Believing that it’s a monogamous relationship when it’s a de-facto open relationship and men are still willing to put up with that treatment in the hopes of getting laid.

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Men learn to deal with loneliness from an early age, it’s second nature to them meanwhile women are the biggest consumers of antidepressants. It’s like women can’t tolerate being lonely. This loneliness eventually makes a good chunk of +30 yo women (with a bodycount more than you can count with one hand) settle against their will (for emotional & financial reasons) but it still won’t be genuine desire, resulting in dead bedrooms. They know they can’t get chads (anymore). Nowadays women are more open with their promiscuity, on the other hands other women want to keep their past hidden for reputational/ damage control. Just my two cents: women with dogmatic political leanings who spend a lot of time in dissident right circles tend to be, let’s say emotionally cold and calculating. Always pay attention to her actions and don’t get fixated on labels. Remember the Hawthorne Effect.

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@Hunter Usu. an uncle or other male relative from the extended family would raise boys with dead/absent/dysfunctional fathers.

No, in the 19th century men and women married in their twenties and the avg. age difference was a little bigger (4-6 years, men held more economic bargaining power). Yeah the ”age of marriage” used to be lower on paper, but in real-life people still married in their twenties. The practice of ”marrying off girls” only represented a marginal share of all marriages, it wasn’t as prevalent as you’d think. I’m still sceptical of your claims. Also in the 19th century girls had their first period at sixteen not earlier. Look, I don’t want this thread to turn into a discussion on AOC, that’s the last thing I’d want it to turn into.
Feminists will try to shame 18-24 year-old women with five-nine years older boyfriends/husbands, while at the same time be cool with women those ages selling their bodies for the price of a lunch to older men and call it “empowering”. Go figure.

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@Hunter
>Thus I cannot conclude that patriarchy is always superior to matriarchy when it comes to specific cases, my ‘family’ being one such case. I would have been happier if my mother were a single mother and I were her only child.

Sounds like you had a dysfunctional relationship with your father. At the same time, kids raised by single mothers are worse off by every metric (one of the reasons why it shouldn’t be encouraged) I wouldn’t wish that kind of fate upon anyone. My bluepilled parents got me and my twin-brother at 45 and 39 (which is too late imo, in middle-age definitely not ideal) they never married, then separated after a year meaning we’d swap homes every Sunday or stay at either parent for an extended period of time. My father who’s a birdwatcher took us with him to his field trips, fishing, social gatherings with relatives until we were older teenagers. Gotta give it to him. Even if I felt envy toward intact families I have nothing to complain about really. Could’ve been worse.

> also ‘dating apps’ are extremely anti-White in general

Nowadays the share of couples that first met online has risen to ~90%. Match Group’s apps have become the de-facto public square for young people to meet (“bro, Tinder isn’t real-life”). Boomers (or anyone absent from the dating pool since ~2013) haven’t got a clue how the landscape has changed in the past decade or so for millenials and zoomers jfl. The globalization of the dating market means nowadays avg. men have it harder meanwhile avg. women get a taste of Chad *way* too easily thus artificially inflating their perceived self-worth thinking they deserve more and more. By compromising their standards (just to get laid) simps also artificially inflate the avg. woman’s ego. Promiscuous women with their undesireable traits would get filtered out from the gene pool back in the day, now they are given the chance to pass on their genes (since they can’t pick Chad, they’ll have to settle for an avg. man/simp who they won’t even have genuine burning desire for/ feel attracted to physically).

>However, the older a man that has children with a younger woman, the more likely the children will also have a longer lifespan.

It’s the first time I’ve come across such a claim. I suspect it’d have to do more with intelligence (which runs in the family) rather than merely old age itself. It’s a priviledge to see one’s own grandkids as adults however the odds become increasingly slim unless one has kids earlier. However, one of the main reasons not to indefinitely delay parenthood is paternal age effect on offspring. I’m not going to bore you to death but the gist of it is that leftists have older fathers on avg. (childhood health is a huge predictor of future political orientation) men in their 20s have less (deleterious) mutations in their sperm (two new mutations per ~year) which means healthier offspring and a higher likelihood of them turning right-wing (aka healthy, ideal natural course of life). On an aggregate level, when there are more births to middle-aged fathers and mothers (or pushing middle-age) than there are to under-30 fathers and mothers then chromosomal abnormalities and mutational load in offspring increases and thus so does leftism in society. Even when the mother’s age is controlled for (women aged 25), older fathers (starting somewhere from 35/40/45) increase the odds for misscarriage, take longer to conceive, have higher odds for schitzophrenia, epilepsy autism etc… Women already get hammered into their heads that “35” is “advanced maternal age”. From an eugenic standpoint young women and men ought to marry eachother (not middle-aged men with more mutations/ women with no/poor eggs) and not delay parenthood indefinitely.

> Before the christian feminist…

From what I’ve gathered, Tacitus mentions in his Germania Germans practiced “late” marriage (which meant they waited until 20). In NW Europe since the late middle ages/ early modern period the avg. age of marriage was mid-20s for women and mid-/late-20s for men (before forming a separate nuclear household with a husband, women had to pay dowry to the man and his family but if her family wasn’t rich then she worked to earn enough to pay for the dowry). During the early colonial period in America women married at 20 and men at 26, during the 18th century it was 23 for women and 27 for men (it was tied to farmland prices, real wages etc. the local sex ratio (surplus of men in the West, women in the East)). Husbands took five years younger wives. Nowadays feminists will try to shame an older guy for being in a relationship with a 18-24 yo woman in which the age difference is five to nine years older. It’s not as prevalent in Continental Europe. Nowadays adolescence is extended to more or less a decade (maybe two lol), when I was 16/17 two-thirds of my class were hopelessly infantilized, a handful were wise beyond their years.

> The concept of ‘progress’ before good goy victory in WW2 was fundamentally linked to the art and science of eugenics:

“Progressive Era” had many good things going for it like eugenics (every civilized country had sterilization laws) well okay aside from the 19th Amendment.

@AeonKnight
>relationships are transactional

RP crowd loves to stress “genuine desire”. (Older) Men have a tendency to lean onto their credentials: “she likes me because I am highly achieved/have wealth” *this line of reasoning* has taken them into divorce court before. Genuine desire can’t be bought, it’s genetic determinism (which run antithesis to the RP). Looks are immutable unlike wealth. So a younger guy won’t have wealth but he has future potential to acquire it as well as looks which will fade with time. Just like there is a critical period for language acqusition between ages ~2-13 there’s a critical socialization period in adolescence to gain the essential social competency for a relationship. Didn’t date as a teenager but I could see how the lack any experience with girls/ young love is detrimental to the psychosocial development of a boy (young love blackpill).

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@AeonKnight I’ve seen that video. Completely nightmarish stuff. It’s our responsibility to ban and control it.

Another unpopular opinion is that the average man ’peaks’ relatively early looks wise in life (sign of genetic health, youth can’t be bought with money) than what the online Redpill/Manosphere crowd regurgitates (around 25-30 versus the latter 35-45). They lie to young boys and men promising them they will peak at 40 (income wise then yes I suppose) that they have infinite time left.

If we then assume women in their early 20s are in the highest demand across the board, those women filter out (average) guys past ages ~30/35 on dating apps who are balding (sign of genetic health), have lower muscle mass and higher bodyfat % due to decreased testosterone levels and wrinkles then the aspect of the agepill becomes brutal to face. Sure, it’s not a secret that men of all ages want a young woman if they had the opportunity but most (average) older men are filtered out by default, those young women will select other men in their 20s more or less their age (+-5 ish). Sure an older man is better I agree with that, but still even then he’d be in his mid-late 20s. In the past men got married around that age (then it was arranged marriages over ‘love’ marriages), those from a wealthy background even younger since they didn’t have to work to stay afloat. It depended on when the man had finished his education and accumulated enough wealth.

Some of you will say age gaps in marriages used to be bigger and that they’ve shrunk due to feminism. There is a nugget of truth in what you’re saying. In 1900 at least in North America it was four years in 1900. If you know a couple with a +10 age gap and they’ve lasted for years, well then the exception confirms the rule.

In my opinion young love can’t ever be experienced again. It’s never going to be the same at 40 dating younger women and even then it’s going be highly transactional in nature (gold diggers). Men’s sperm quality declines with age, nature favors reproduction at a younger age. In the past age of first marriage and parenthood was in the 20s during the spring/summer of one’s life.

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I support sterilisation mandates for individuals at 85 IQ or below (about 16% of the population, mind you). Before the radical 60s-70s the definition of mental retardation stood at 85 IQ instead of the current 70 IQ. You figure out why it was lowered. Just being born White doesn’t automatically make an individual part of the White community, they must earn that respect first and it can be lost. +30 Couples who can’t conceive naturally shouldn’t try to use IVF because it’s dysgenic. Warning: huge blackpill incoming

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Blackpill: warning, couples who are thinkkng about IVF are not going to like this:

I remember seeing a video in which a robot would forcibly(!) drag a weak sperm cell to fertilize an egg (the sperm tried to resist but ultimately failed). In a pre-industrial society with harsh Darwinian selection pressure (when child mortality was 50% before the 19th century) only the fittest would survive and get to pass on their genes and the weak ones would not be born at all or ”get culled” due to having a weak immune system. Humanity will become more dysgenic over this century until nature heals again.

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@John 1982 WD has 7176 members, counting all the way back to 2017. ”Single” men: 2334 and women: 278 (an ~8:1 ratio before accounting for scammers etc.). Younger (under-30) women are in even greater demand.

@Raphael I joined WD in October 2022 with the expectation of having to look for women for years upon years (hence why I bought a lifetime membership, you never know if you happen to strike a mother lode when you’d least expect it**). I encourage all single young men in their 20s to look actively for women with the intention of settling, instead of wasting their youth thinking it’s a secondary priority. Young women in their 20s who are in the highest demand, marry men a little older than them/from the same generation (1-5/10 years older). The dating pool shrinks in one’s 30s as conservative people who want to get married with kids earlier have left the market.

**It took me about 1.5 years then one day I found a certain someone and it didn’t take that many weeks for us to become close. Women usu. delete their WD profiles if they don’t find anyone interesting/ they found someone they like and they want to start private messaging.

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@Leo My two cents: ”Global Research” is owned by Michael Chussodovsky, a jew living in Canada. Be weary.

@Rafael I’d reccommend Johnny Gat/ Vigilante Intelligence (now known as Johnny’s Ghost) and all of his documentaries. Vigilante Intelligence tackles topics the mainstream media and even the so-called ”Alternative Right” (2008-2017) and the ”Dissident Right” (2017/2020-today) won’t even touch, since it doesn’t fit their narrative.

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If you went on Dissident Right forums ten years ago there would be these ”White Sharia” memes. (Guillaume Faye one of the fathers of the ”European New Right” wrote in 1998 in Archeofuturism that he regrets what the movement had turned into after 30 years (basically shilling for foreign ideologies like Islam and thus turning away normal Pro-Whites from ever joining the movement).)
If, for example a Swede ”converts” (gets programmed) to Mohammedianism then he spits on his ancestors and 40 000 years of evolution. I see Islam as Arab conquest of different ethnic groups under one-pan ethnic empire. They are our historical enemy. Remember that.

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Clear your browser cache every now and then. That’ll do the trick.

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No. Strongly negative. A child needs both its biological mom and dad or else his/her development will be stunted. A child is robbed from his/her mom from birth. There’s a reason why sex, birth and parenthood are naturally linked and any attempt at subduing Nature’s Eternal Laws causes disorder both on an individual as well as societal level.

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I came to think of this old video:

”debunking the myth of homosexuality in ancient Greece. There are coordinated efforts aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the culture of the ancient Greeks, a global misguided effort, to intentionally present the Ancient Greeks as homosexuals or bisexuals which ignores the plethora of references to the contrary. This video provides evidence that homosexuality in ancient Greece was NOT an accepted act in the ancient society there were strict laws prohibiting homosexual acts. Homosexuality did exist, albeit on the margins of the society.”

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The Christian/Pagan question surfaces esp. when the parents have to decide whether children (current or future) should be raised Christian or Pagan.

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You know, even before the Finns had their own nation-state (Finland), before the existence of Finns was recognized by the Great Powers of Europe and the int’l community, Finns went on about their daily lives as usual despite being ”invisible” to everyone else during the Middle Ages and the Modern Period. So as long as a group of people haven’t completely vanished off the face of the earth, there is still hope. In that sense, I wouldn’t be worried.

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Naturally, whenever such a site like WD gets (re-)discovered by leftist journos (political activists) they will sneak in like a foreign pathogen and begin polluting WD with their presence. They come and they go. If you had a bad experience (accidentally joined WD at the wrong time) then I’m sorry for you man.

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Consistency is key, just keep using WD consistently and long enough. Sure, the sex ratio is a staggering 9:1 (and quite a sizeable chunk of the women on WD are from the New World). Don’t be demoralized if you run into bad actors. I think I already know which profile you’re referring to, reported that one immediately when I saw it. Best of luck to you man!

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@Tony My parents read out loud to me (in both Swedish and Finnish) even after I could read on my own. In Europe it’s not uncommon to speak ~two/three languages at an advanced level. I’ve been told by Anglos that Netherlands, Scandinavia and Finland resemble the Anglosphere the closest and this might have to do with the fact that these countries add subtitles to foreign movies, whereas Central European countries are far more protective of their own domestic languages, thus they instead resort to dubbing foreign movies.

@WelshNorman If a child has no incentive to use a language or lacks a strong connection to one he/she will feel discouraged to use it. One example I can think of is a bilingual family that moves abroad to live in a third country (Anglosphere) bringing along their young children with them. The mother and father each speak two unrelated languages (e.g. Portuguese and Czech) at home while English is the dominant language of the environment. So the kids will grow up feeling like ”they don’t belong anywhere”. In my opinion young children should grow up either in the country of their mother or father (quite literally motherland and fatherland). In terms of language-learning aptitude, the leap a child has to make from a conversational level to an academic level takes considerable effort.

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I suppose in this thread ’age gap’ means ten or more years age difference.

If one inspects old data on marriages in Europe/NA (how things used to be) a four-/five-year gap with the husband being older was the norm.

Also at the end of life, a gap of ~eight years or more becomes apparent in terms of energy levels. Imo, this would create friction in the marriage esp. if the husband would become confined to his bed/ a ’vegetable’ due to illness, then later die and the wife would have to endure a long period of widowhood.

As for my extended family: either the men are older by six years or the women are three years older (it happens). Usu. if the woman is slighly older, that is an indication that the man is mature for his age compared to his same-age peers.

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