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@Sonnenbaum

It sounds like you’re beginning to understand the alchemical axiom “as within, so without”. The world we experience as external is only a mirror of ourselves. We can’t see what isn’t within us.

Be careful with blocking out your emotions. I would advise against this. Our emotions have very important messages to tell us, but still use discretion when choosing who to share what with.

You describe yourself as a hermetic vessel who needs nothing, but are you being honest with yourself? How can we ever work towards what we desire if we never admit we have such desire to begin with?

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@AeonKnight

Haha yeah I know the kind of chicks you’re talking about. They can be fun to hang out with sometimes, but most of them are overweight. I got nothing against dancing in the forest, crystals or chakras haha! Some of them are naive, but so is everyone at some point and in some way. Most groups, especially ones the public can join, are trash 99% trash.

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@SouthernEnjoyer gave the most reasonable advice I’ve seen here so far. The reactions to what he said are hilarious. White knights coping and seething.

‘She can’t be a whore, she’s a based pro-white queen. Look! She even wears sundresses and posts pictures of her making sourdough bread on instagram!’ Oh boy trust me, they absolutely want you to believe that.

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@Hunter

You said it, dude- ‘pearls before swine’. Coincidentally enough, I was thinking about this very exact analogy in regards to my efforts here recently. You saying it confirms it for me and that’s all I need to know about what my future engagement should be here.

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@NewAngle

Thanks for the feedback.

Emasculated by blacks? No. It’s hilarious you’d assume that, though.

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@sperg

I knew you were capable of complete sentences, spelling, and grammar. A major improvement. You still haven’t really proven your point, though. You’d have to elaborate and make an argument for your claim in order for me to entertain your point, whatever it is.

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@Ralf

…and yeah, I know what it’s like to be an early-20’s arrogant shithead. I honestly wasn’t that much of a hothead, though. I’ve always been rather slow to anger. When I finally do attack (if someone provoked me to that point, they worked hard for it and deserve every ounce of it), it’s calculated, deliberate, unpreventable and absolutely devastating to my target. That’s what separates the toy soldiers, hotshots and hollow mercenaries from the Warriors. Hotheads have no real power or self-control and use intimidation to deter anyone from checking them, exposing their weakness and attacking that weakness without mercy. It only works on those weaker than them, though. The bigger the unwarranted intimidation factor, the more weakness you know they’re trying to hide. Bigger the puff, bigger the weakness. Those in a constant state of being puffed up (niggers and wiggers mostly) have no idea how loudly they are advertising how weak and vulnerable they truly are. They’re almost too easy to conquer if you’ve been trained to analyze and respond to things like this. Shit, maybe you’re right. Maybe I should start charging people money for these nuggets. Yeah, maybe then they’d actually read them and put it to use. You want my master class on how to completely dismantle and obliterate bigshot niggers and brittlebitch wiggers before they can even realize what just happened? That’ll be $149.99… Ha!

They’re all hotheads and billy-badasses in their own little inflated fantasy world until they come face to face with someone like me. They can’t hide their weakness in my presence and none of their tactics work. I’m familiar with the type and they are all the same on the inside: empty, pathetic and trying to make up for their erectile dysfunction and impotence. Then they try it on someone like me in the real world and get a humble meeting with reality, facedown on the sidewalk with plenty of time to reflect on who they really are and the consequences of investing in an overinflated fantasy of themselves. Self-deluded fantasies always have consequences.

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@Ralf

Thanks for the feedback.

I understand all too well the incredibly short attention span the average person has. I don’t write for them and rather someone has the will to read my posts is of no consequence to me. I couldn’t care less who does or doesn’t have the time to read 2009 words. I’m also not trying to market anything here. I have no financial incentive to do any of this.

I have no need to accomodate the mental disabilities of the tik-tok-brained, addled masses. When they don’t read my posts, or look at it and say “this is too long, I don’t have time for this!” I don’t even notice and I couldn’t care less even if I did notice. I post freely, unedited and without financial incentive. If this was my job and I had to use whatever gimmicks writers use these days to trick their readers into thinking their words have value and persuading them into buying whatever trinkets they have for sale like an unscrupulous merchant, then perhaps I’d change my approach a bit. Until then, I’ll just keep posting whatever I feel like, whenever I feel like it, in whatever manner I find pleasing.

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@Ralf

I’ve found your recent post here most insightful. I agree with much of what you said. For a father to force his daughter to marry someone she doesn’t love or desire to marry is abusive and cowardly. If he is noble, he will do everything in his power to assist his daughter in finding the most suitable mate. It starts with being the type of man and father his daughter will genuinely love and respect. If his daughter does not respect him, she will not value his council, advice or seek him for approval. She will neither seek his permission or blessing to marry. The quickest way to lose respect is abuse. If the father is noble and worthy of the respect he desires from his daughter, she will give it naturally and willingly. She will marry a man she knows her father will be proud of and happy for her about, because she loves and respects him in return.

Any man who feels the need to abuse any woman for any reason is simply a coward, and an absolute failure of a man. If a father abuses his daughter and loses her respect, it’s his own fault she doesn’t care what he thinks anymore. At that point, once love and respect has been lost, there is little that can be done in most cases, unfortunately. The more the father tries to control and abuse her, the more she will resist and fight back. She’ll do as she pleases, perhaps even acting out and doing things she knows will make him angry just to spite him, just for vengeance against him, to punish the father. This can be an especially dangerous path for a young woman to embark upon, leading to self-destruction and hurting of innocent parties. Here we see how vital it is for the father to be noble and loving toward his daughter.

You pointed out one hypothesis about why women choose men like their fathers, even if they were abusive. It makes sense to me, but I have another hypothesis as well. They seek abusive partnerships in an unconscious attempt to resolve the conflict and win the love they never received from the father via the partner. If she can get her abusive partner to stop abusing her and finally love her, she can heal her relationship with her father internally. It’s a roundabout way of trying to heal the traumatic relationship with the father.

This is why counseling, self-reflection, journaling and meditation are so important. When we engage with our inner world and allow it to speak to/through us, we can uncover unconscious blockages to our own success and happiness in life. How many women in such relationships are consciously aware of why they continue to put themselves in such abusive, tragic scenarios? Anyone living on repeat with a similar pattern has unconscious, unresolved trauma of some kind. The good news is that healing is possible when we become willing to change and discover more about ourselves, no matter how painful or dark it is.

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@sperg

What a pathetic response. You actually expect other men and women to actually respect you when you act this way? You have a lot to learn. I expect you’ll have to learn the hard way through copious amounts of beatings from reality. Enjoy it, it serves you well. You don’t even bother to use complete sentences, proper grammar or spelling. You type like an uneducated, low-class nigger. Are you a nigger? You act like one. Your one-word hit-and-run attempt to abuse a member of your own fucking family is despicable cowardice and utterly pathetic and weak. If you said anything like this to my face, I would crush you like a bug. Do you feel empowered to say whatever you like without consequences. You are an insolent child and in for some very brutal awakenings. Step outside mommy’s basement and go find out what it takes to be a man in this world. Clearly your father failed you and unfortunately for you, the only way you’ll learn now is through pain inflicted upon yourself by your own poor choices. Embrace it, you’re in for much of it.

Your profile says you’re passionate about critical thinking and self-awareness. If you actually took the time to read the entire post and were unable to synthesize or comprehend anything of importance, I encourage you to read it again and apply what you believe. If you can’t extract one single thread of value from what I’ve said, I have no more time to lend you. Show me you read and learned one thing here. Don’t write impulsively. Take your time. Use complete sentences. Write like a man deserving of respect. If you disagree with something, be insightful and elaborate why.

Or did you just come here in an attempt to put someone down and piss on other people’s work to feel better about your own lack of accomplishment? Did you feel better from calling me a “schizoposter”. Does that make you feel like a big, strong man? You seem like the kind of coward that would attack a defenseless animal just to feel better about how weak you truly are. Grow the fuck up, man… or don’t.

You have an opportunity now to turn around from the shithead you put on display for all to see here, to someone respectable and worthy of recognition from men and women who have proven themselves to be noble and worthy of respect. Come back with something profound. Don’t just come back here and run your mouth like a punk. Sit on this for a minute and give a respectful response, even if it takes days to come up with it. Nobody ever gave me chances like this when I was your age or took the time to explain to me what will happen if I continue being a shithead. Or you can continue to be the online sperg no man respects and no woman desires, wandering aimlessly through life without purpose, wondering why you’re miserable and alone. The choice is yours.

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@Awakened_Beauty

Interesting take. Would you mind telling me what specifically you disagree with? If you disagree, please cite what you disagree with and why. I kindly ask that you keep the ad hominem attacks (or any other logical fallacy for that matter) to yourself, however. If you continue in that direction, I will simply block you. Please also refrain from attempts at defamation and slander. I won’t be asking a second time. Nothing I have said is enough to make any sort of valid medical diagnosis and even if it was, using someone’s medical diagnosis to attack them with is a bit low, wouldn’t you agree?

You are a qualified mental health professional able to accurately diagnose complex personality disorders via internet forums? Where did you get your PhD?

You wouldn’t be the first psychotic cluster B person whose tried to accuse ME of “being the narcissist”. I’ve seen this bit before and it’s actually getting quite tiresome. Why do you feel the need to attempt to tear me down by calling me names and suggesting I need mental health treatment? You do realize that’s textbook cluster B behavior, right? I do hope you’ve been using that resource you are so fond of suggesting to everyone, not that personality disorders are really even treatable.

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@Dragons

Yeah, humanity is going to have to endure a lot of pain to get through this one. That’s just part of the evolutionary process. How much pain that’s ultimately required depends on how resistant humanity is to growth. It doesn’t have to be this way, though. Humanity has collectively chosen/voted for the current conditions. As a whole, humans have become incredibly stagnant in terms of spiritual advancement with the exception of relatively small, isolated pockets of individuals. Massive corrections are needed to return man back on it’s proper course. This unfortunately won’t be easy to say the least. Not everyone is going to make it, but those who survive the calamities will be tasked with rebuilding the world for the future. We can only hope the best of us survive while the worst of us are erased permanently from the gene pool.

Hypergamy in itself is beneficial to the gene pool. It only becomes a problem when it becomes maladaptive pathology. The hypergamous drive for a woman to select the best mate and secure resources is NOT for herself, but for her children and future generations! This is what modern women get wrong. They’ve made it all about themselves and their own greedy, materialistic desires which are becoming increasingly insatiable. Everything about female mate selection is hardwired at a biological level towards ensuring the next generation and all those that follow have the best possible outcomes. It’s been warped in modern women to the point of mental illness. They delay or completely neglect the satiation of their maternal instincts, leaving them unfulfilled yet still driving them unconsciously, leading to aforementioned pathology. It’s easy to understand when we relate this to a primal level of instinct. It’s incredibly simple.

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@Ralf

Did AeonKnight ask your permission to post his analysis? You said no and he still did? If that’s the case then I can understand why you’d be upset by this.

There was some good analysis in there from what I could see, though. Not that I agree with 100% of what was said. My advice would be to try to not take it personally and extract whatever valuable information you can from it. Don’t let your ego get in the way of receiving feedback, even if it’s abrasive. I don’t think AeonKnight was genuinely out to hurt you. It seems he was really trying to help. Perhaps he posted it here so that others could benefit from the analysis as well. Not to put you on blast. None of us here are perfect.

There was some good points about negotiating desire as opposed to making it happen organically. Respect shouldn’t be negotiated or asked for, except under certain circumstances, either.

I get it, most of us men aren’t here because we already are married to the woman of our dreams. That doesn’t mean some of us haven’t been married before or have experience with women in relationships.

I’ve had many relationships with women, including several longterm ones. I’ve made a lot of mistakes along the way. I wasn’t really taught how to relate to women properly. Female psychology had remained an absolute mystery until just a few years ago when I really started researching it. I had to figure it out on my own the hard way for the most part- trial and error. We mostly have to figure it out the hard way, but if we are humble enough to seek advice and knowledge, and use discernment with what we find, you can get the lesson without having to live the mistake.

Being so open emotionally can be a turnoff for women when not done correctly, but you can’t get mad at me or anyone else for that. There are things about women’s nature at a primal level that are beyond even their own control. Same for men. In an already healthy, stable, romantic relationship with some degree of commitment established, being open emotionally like that can be beneficial and lead to deeper intimacy.

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@Dragons

From a traditionalist point of view, I’d say that it’s inappropriate for a woman to approach a man, but conditions have changed so much that many men are checking out of the dating market and becoming more uninterested in pursuing women. Women are going to have to work harder than they ever have before to secure a truly good man. That might include making the first move and walking up to men they’re attracted to and giving them some sort of compliment. Feminism has come a long way in deterring men from approaching women. Lots of broken dudes out there unwilling to risk it anymore for a woman. Reduced to casual encounters and non-commital, transient relationships. True warriors never give up the fight, though.

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@Dragons

Yeah, it’s tough out there for sure. We’re all being tested in a way that previous generations can’t even comprehend. I have faith that the strong will prevail and we’ll find our way through this, just like we have before. The genome will sort itself out as Darwin does his work, but until then we are in for a wild ride while he does. Selection pressure is higher than it’s ever been. Even genetically fine specimens such as myself are having a rough time under these conditions. I honestly thought I had it tough until I started looking at what the incel community was all about. Those dudes are experiencing absolute brutality. Nature is as beautiful as it is brutal. It has a way of rebalancing itself in ways that can seem colder than ice, but that’s how it goes.

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@AeonKnight

You’re on point. Great analysis, insight and advice. No coddling. Just the facts. Outstanding.

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@V

I’m curious about how it’s going for you now. It’s been almost a year. What’s your strategy now? Any luck?

I can’t fathom how PUA advice/game is applicable to women, especially ones looking for a traditional gentleman. All that advice is to coach men specifically about how to get a woman’s attention and help them stand out from other men. Savvy pickup lines and NLP has it’s limitations, though.

Networking with people who have what you want already (in this case, a traditional and healthy marriage) and hanging out where they hang out seems to be the ticket. It’s been said a few times already but it bares repeating: bars are no place to find a family-oriented gentleman, if that’s what you’re looking for.

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@Shaughnessy

You hit the nail on the head.

I’ve never had a problem with attracting women. I’ve had my share of relationships and ‘flings’. Those aren’t a problem. I could go get laid or start some sort of fling without much difficulty. The difficulty is in finding quality women to have a meaningful and healthy relationship with who isn’t already emotionally ruined or severely scarred. Those truly are rare. By the time they reach their 20’s, most are already damaged goods and feminists (rather they identify as one or not). Those who aren’t are attached to their high school sweetheart and pursuing marriage, making them ineligible. One thing I’ve found in common in all healthy, enduring relationships is this: the wife’s husband took her virginity and they’ve been together since they were teenagers. If you aren’t married to your highschool sweetheart or in a committed relationship with her, and she isn’t saving herself for you, then it gets rather bleak in the dating market. It’s not impossible, but the odds are not stacked in the favor of a man attempting to lock down a wife who hasn’t already been passed around. The odds aren’t stacked in the favor of women either, as they have become adepts at sabotaging any chance with a truly ‘good’ man. Not only that, but such women don’t DESERVE such men, but good luck convincing them of that! They’d rather refuse to settle down with a man that matches their SMV, living in their delusional princess fairytale that they deserve the Brad Pitts of the world and anything less is insulting.

Notice the complete lack of engagement from women in these forums? It’s not surprising, though. I truly wonder why they even bother joining dating sites like this. They can get male attention anywhere, but I guess when you’re attention-w*ore maxxing, you explore your options and get it every place you can. This is another issue: women are spoiled rotten with male attention. It all goes straight to their ego. So I blame the simps and those who dole out compliments like it’s their job just as much as the women. Everyone should know better, but they don’t. Women expect Chad to simp for them the same way the simps do, and when he doesn’t, she’ll fish for it and easily get it anywhere on the internet by simply posting a picture of her ugly face.

The ends of the spectrum are extreme. On one end, you have absolute degenerates and dysgenic waste reproducing at a phenomenal speed without second thought, which the welfare state allows for. On the other, you have the Chads- fine genetic specimens and honorable men having their pick of the litter, wifing up whoever they choose and having children with them. Of course, even they get cheated on and treated like trash by these women, but they are meeting with some success in generating offspring. So it seems to be the extreme ends are reproducing more than everyone in the middle. The “average dude” doesn’t stand much of a chance in these conditions.

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@AeonKnight

I feel like I missed something important here. When did paganism become a meme of a coping feminist? lol
I have been loosely associated with the broader pagan community for nearly a decade now and I can say that they indeed come in all colors, shapes and sizes: including overweight, coping feminists being common. They all get to pretend they’re the high priestess of some imaginary magical order and the chosen bride of an immortal god. Lots of princesses. That’s not all of them though. I’ve met some real badasses and people you truly would not want to trifle with, too. Scary mf’ers. “Paganism” itself is really just a banner. Soooo many groups within it and most of them don’t agree with each other. Anyone really can call themselves a pagan.

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@WillOfEuropa

“Pagan” does not mean anything that doesn’t worship the Christian god. By that definition then even atheists and agnostics could be considered pagan, but lo they are not.

If a pagan man tried to marry a christian woman or vica versa, you really think it could work? If by “zealot” you mean they actually practice their faith and are more than just superficially devoted to their respective god(s), just giving lip service and making an appearance on Sunday for social credit, then I agree. Then again, it’s ultimately up to the two people themselves to determine that and find what works.

Heathens in general aren’t mired in the moral dilemmas of enjoying one’s body and experiencing pleasure, unlike christianity whose dogma thinks that anything resulting in pleasure should be considered shameful. Christians are just as hedonistic, the only difference is they feel guilty and ashamed of themselves when they’re done.

@Hunter

Are you suggesting that anyone who self-identifies as a pagan is simply reacting to christianity? That’s almost as delusional as the christians who think that all who self-identify as a satanist or luciferian must solely be reactionary to christian theology. Not the case. Not everything has to be a submission to or counter-reaction to a perverted, relatively new and manmade religious doctrine. Christians love to make it about themselves. “He’s not a christian, so that must mean whatever spiritual path he follows is only because he’s reacting to it.” Nonsense!

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@Lux Et Veritas

Yeah, that’s pretty much the takeaway.

The other thing I see so common is attachment to outcome. Just because you start training and self-improving that doesn’t automatically guarantee you your dream girl. Women will test you to see if you’re for real, never forget that. It’s not just to f*** with you when they do it, either. It has a purpose, and it’s actually useful to men to help them grow and become better men if they know how to use this valuable resource. Example: (Woman):”Oh, you’ve been hitting the gym? What are you insecure about yourself you need muscles to show off to feel good about yourself?” CLASSIC shit test. How do you respond? She’s asking you if YOU are sure of what you’re doing. That’s all that matters. Her opinion is irrelevant. All she wants to know is if you are strong, unwavering, dedicated, on your purpose. If a woman can jab you off your purpose with little tests like that, then she has every right to be turned off because it shows that you’re weak.

@Shaughnessy

Sounds like an excuse to not hit the gym.

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@Ralf

Ah, I see. When you say you were “getting ready to take matters further in a few days” are you saying that you were going to ask her out on a date to meet in person? And then you got into an argument and were fighting before you even met.

It’s so hard to get to know someone online. It’s not impossible, but there are limits. Profiles and messages can be highly curated and not give an accurate representation of a person, or what they’re like in person. All the important details, including compatibility can only be discovered in a one-on-one interaction.

It’s true that women and men alike could perceive someone who is over-giving emotionally or otherwise as weak or suspicious. When people are nice to me for no reason, I think nothing of it in normal situations, as manners are to be expected. But when people start going out of their way for no reason and bending over backwards, it can raise flags, such as: why is this person being so nice to me? What do they want in exchange for all this?

It’s a natural response to feel obligated to give something in return when receiving something for free. Salesmen know this very well and use it to their advantage. It’s true- nothing is free. Most gifts have strings attached unless it’s from someone who TRULY does love you. The Gebo If you were giving her all kind of emotional support prior to any form of commitment or investment on her part, it could seem like you’re giving yourself away for free. What were you hoping to get in return?

In my opinion, we should only give ourselves away so freely to people who have proven themselves worthy of the investment of our time and energy: loved ones, close friends, committed partner, trustworthy acquaintances, etc.. It’s a matter of self-respect and making the best use of our resources. Sounds like you’ve got a lot to give and that’s good. Don’t squander it, though, your emotional investment is a valuable asset. Men invest more than just money into women: time, emotions, physical effort. That’s why vetting is so important before investing in a woman.

Look at all the best investors, stock brokers and crypto traders in the world. How do they invest? Do they simply pile their money into the first thing that looks good at first glance without a plan? No, they vet extensively first. Emotional currency should be treated the same. Make wiser investments and have a plan, and your losses will be less.

My advice: don’t give yourself away so easily. Make her earn what you have to offer. Let her demonstrate that she is worthy of your investment before you provide her with that type of support. Women love it when the man makes them work for it, it drives them crazy. Don’t be a simp! You’re better than that, man. It’s okay and I’m not insulting you but if I had to be completely blunt it sounds like you: 1) Waited way too long to try to arrange a date. Remember most “getting to know you” should be done in person. 2) You were giving away precious emotional resources to someone who hasn’t demonstrated loyalty or trustworthiness. Again, I’m not trying to cut you down, but that’s how I see it. I know because I’ve had to work on the same issues and am still working on them. Anyway, hope it helps.

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@Ralf

Was this someone you were dating, or just exchanging messages with?

You both agreed to not ghost eachother, and if you wanted to break contact, that it would be discussed openly?

Sounds like a classic bait-and-switch to me. Sorry to hear it man, but a valuable learning experience. What have you learned from it?

Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. If you try to figure it out without her telling you with full transparency, you could drive yourself crazy. Women change their minds all the time and not even they are aware of why most the time, so if you ask they wouldn’t be able to give an insightful answer anyway. Lack of accountability is now the new standard for Western women, so very few feel obligated to hold up any kind of agreement they’ve made, even those who are “on our side”. It changes the minute they want it to, and they don’t feel they have to justify it to anyone or be held accountable by anyone, especially a man. Makes me wonder what her relationship is like with her father. Who in her life is holding her accountable for her actions? I have my guesses.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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@WillOfEuropa

Lol @ “Hoe_math”, I’ll check it out.

The cultivation of masculine energy is what my original post was trying to stress. It’s vital.

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@WelshmanNorman

How is being well-read a problem? You don’t think that strong, beautiful, Aryan women value intelligence or knowledge? The best of them certainly do. It’s one of the things that defines us. It doesn’t make us undesirable, at least not to those who matter or should be considered for a wife. White folk have never been the lowest of any kind of pole, that’s silly. Just because other people hate us for whatever reason (they make up some new reason every day) doesn’t mean we’re on the bottom of some social hierarchy. Thing is, we don’t have to play their game by their rules, and we shouldn’t. So why accept the enemy narrative that we’re “the lowest on the totem pole”. I’m sorry if you feel that way, but only our actions can define where we rank in any sort of hierarchy that has relevance. Listening to jews and blacks talk about how much they hate us all the time probably isn’t healthy, either. It can break a person down over time. When I hear it from them, I realize how sad and pathetic they truly are and just laugh. Their words are as weak and empty as they are, so why let it bother you? That’s what they want. Don’t give it to them.

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@AeonKnight

I agree that evolutionary biology and psychology are important to study, but one must use discretion when considering the source. I’ve found “Jungtoliveby” (youtube and website) to be on the right track with laying it out in terms of the genomic/biological self, instinctual drives, anima/animus, relating, complexes, archetypes and the issues faced by the modern, Western world.

The “gynocracy” has become the cultural embodiment and manifestation of the proverbial “shit test”. It’s playing out on a much larger scale now and men are being tested as a whole, and so are women. I’m not here to shame or bash female nature, quite the opposite. I adore the feminine. Cowards fear women and from that place of fear seek to control them with force, but it’s not the type of force that elicits genuine love and adoration from the women they seek to control. All the greatest poets and heroes throughout the centuries had one thing in common: their adoration for the feminine. It can make or break a man. A weak man cannot withstand the absorptive nature of her and is thereby consumed, destroyed, reduced to a husk. The masculine adept is instead empowered by her, making him stronger, giving fertile soil for his seeds to grow, literally and figuratively.

A woman will submit for the right man, and in a way that brings her bliss like she’s never known, and all women yearn for this bliss. When they can’t achieve it, you get things like the mass hysterics of neo-feminists, marching in the streets acting out. Those marches are massive shit tests! The ‘worthy’ men are not set off balance by such displays and it’s at such extremes that the dross is separated from the gold. Consider what we’re going through collectively as a type of crucible event. Not everyone is going to make it, but that’s the point. The genome will continue one way or the other, with or without them, and many women are self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool by choosing to not have children. So be it. The genome does not care. The healthy women connected to instinct will adapt and overcome the propaganda- their instincts will be fulfilled and they will birth the future generations. The hysteria comes from women who have fought hard to suppress their instincts, and it’s a battle they cannot win. The instinctive pressure will still be there.

The mind can be tricked, but instincts cannot. They are primal forces within us that propel us to fulfillment. That’s why pickup artists are able to arrange a stream of one-night stands, they know how to trick the mind; but if she stays around long enough, she will eventually discover if he is genuine or not. Most pickup artists I’ve observed are little more than charlatans with a bit of skill in applied psychology and neuro-linguistics. Women are wired at a primal level to detect the authenticity of a man, and she has many ways of eliciting responses to allow him to reveal what’s inside him. Only a man insecure in what’s inside him should feel the need to devise ways to trick a woman into sleeping with him. Again, you can trick the mind but the instincts will not go away; although they can be temporarily placated through things like promiscuity, pron and artificial achievement via video games. Since these things never truly fulfill instinct, they have to keep doing them and that is how addictions form.

So what is the solution? A return to instinct by paying attention to them first and then to go about fulfilling them. Easier said than done, I know, but the solution isn’t a quick fix or without struggle. Those willing to struggle in this quest are the most distinguished, successful and happy overall. Compared to a man who is content with temporary placations of the driving forces that can make him great, and unwilling to struggle. For women, they must honor their feminine instincts and be willing to hold off for the right man who has proven himself worthy of continuing the species with. When she finds him, she will feel protected, relaxed and liberated in an authentic way. The path to liberation is through embracing our instincts and allowing them to guide our path forward. No good comes from denying them, because they are part of who we are. Of course, the Christianized West is rife with dogmatic propaganda and ‘values’ that invite us to view instinct as something evil, something to be controlled, repressed and seldom discussed. No wonder the West has gotten itself in such a mess- it’s members are actively at war against their own biological nature! There will be a conclusion to all this, and which way it goes is ultimately up to the individual. If the collective decision is made to ignore instinct, it will only continue to get worse and absolute enslavement is not out of the realm of possibility. Either way, the West is in for a wild ride.

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I haven’t read much of Evola, so I won’t presume to have a thorough understanding of his views and concepts regarding the ‘divine’ masculine and feminine. I’m choosing to mostly focus on the masculine for the moment here. Personally, I’d rather substitute the word “visionary”, “holy man” or “guru” for “ascetic” as I find little virtue in extreme self-denial or anti-materialism.

In the Vedic tradition, the planet associated with the warrior is Mars; and the planet associated with the guru or holy man is Jupiter. For those unfamiliar with Vedic astrology, it’s worth investigating if you have an interest in the esoteric sciences as they have a long and rich history of studying the celestial bodies and how they affect us. It’s quite different from modern, Western astrology in many ways- much more depth and it hasn’t been polluted or bastardized like many modern, Western traditions have become.

Depending on the position of Mars in a person’s birth chart and other factors, it will illustrate how a person expresses their masculine vitality, sexual drive, and warrior nature. Without proper guidance or a defined goal, the Mars energy of a person can become restless and destructive or fight for an evil cause, or just expend it’s “load” of energy in the wrong place. It is the pure driving force, and it governs our blood, red muscle tissue, adrenal glands and testosterone. It rules athleticism and war, and is very competitive. At it’s highest function, it seeks to destroy what is bad and defend what is good. When Mars is receiving the blessing of Jupiter and accepts the guidance He gives with love and devotion, you have a warrior who is aligned with his purpose, knows himself and fights for his higher vision instead of just being some lowly mercenary.

Jupiter on the other hand is the wise man, the visionary, the guru, the holy person, the great healer, the miracle worker even. He brings forth the blessings of the Gods and bestows them upon man, guiding him to enlightenment and fortune (fortune comes in many forms, including higher knowledge and wisdom). He also has a warrior aspect when provoked and He activates this power at certain times, but it is different than the type of warrior that Mars is. Jupiter is like the fatherly guide, who attempts to show us to ourselves and reveal to us the secrets of our own divine nature so that we can find our own right path in life. Jupiter expands our minds and bestows higher knowledge. Without the blessing or presence of Jupiter, it can be difficult to find meaning in life and one can feel lost and directionless. If Jupiter is debilitated, one can fall prey to internet celebrities and malicious cult figures (need I name any here? They are numerous!) who offer them answers and solutions to their problems that only leads to more problems, being taken advantage of and being led down a path of self-destruction.

In the context of the hero, Mars becomes the viril masculine power that propels him into action and Jupiter advises him on the best course of action, giving him vision, purpose and inspiration. To remove either would leave the hero either impotent (without Mars) or immoral (without Jupiter). Both are necessary for a hero to be born by virtue of his deeds.

For the feminine, we look to Moon and Venus. Moon represents the mother and all things associated with her: emotion, maternal instinct, intuition and nurturing. Venus represents the lover and all things associated with beauty, art and luxury. They both have a sensual element to them.

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@EastNordid

That’s a good point. The child will naturally absorb information and energy from their parents, so it definitely affects the development of the child in a significant way. Caution must be used though because the mind of a child is delicate. Exposing it too early to spiritual forces can be detrimental even if the parents believe it is good for them. It is best to lead by example and not force the child into a spiritual or religious paradigm. When they are mature enough and have developed critical thinking, they can decide for themselves which path is most appropriate for them. It’s not something that should ever be forced or mandated. The biggest complaint I see from children who were raised in highly religious households is that they felt pressured and forced to accept the family’s religion. The result is backfire and rebellion to regain their sense of individuality and autonomy.

@A_Spartan_Speaks

I tend to agree. I find Christianity to be antithetical to nature, and it’s view of all humans as despicable creatures worthy of hell and in need of some external savior to be equally deranged and unhealthy. It relies on shaming tactics and fear to generate converts and fill the pews. I am human and am not ashamed of it, I embrace it. Christians seem to be so quick to deny themselves of their human nature out of shame and ignorance, or simply choose to abdecate responsibility for it altogether because they are too lazy, psychologically and spiritually immature to claim ownership of it. They demand a savior and one appears, leading to stagnation as they cower in their tents on the side of the mountain, content not to summit because someone else already did it for them. Autonomy, self-determination, embrace of instincts and importance of the genomic self are nowhere to be found in their “values”. The detrimental effects of universalism can be seen in most Christianized nations. The abstractions are endless.

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@Dude

Yes, one must exercise discretion when attempting to uncover the truth of events that occurred, be it current events or ancient history. Those in power have a tendency to skew events and rewrite historical narratives that favor their desired outcome. One example of this is the Roman historian Tacitus. Most of the available history concerning Germanic tribes suspiciously comes from this one man, who according to sources cited by Wikipedia, owed his position to Vespasian- founder of the Flavian dynasty in Rome. He allegedly paid writers and historians to conform their narratives to view him in positive regard, while condemning previous emperors. If the allegation is true, that means the integrity of historical writings by Tacitus have been compromised due to conflict of interest and must be reviewed with skepticism. Furthermore, the Flavian dynasty itself was infiltrated by a Jewish elite family (Pharisees) via Josephus, who served as an advisor and historian.

While official Christian doctrine may not support a ‘convert or die’ philosophy, it’s ostensibly Christian kings and priest class certainly did. The account of the tree cut I think you’re referring to is that of Donar’s Oak. The author of the account was Willibald, a Catholic bishop and his bias is apparent in the telling. He claims when they began to cut the tree, a bolt of lightning struck it down swiftly and all the pagans promptly got on their knees and celebrated the Christian god. This is clearly a sensationalized account written by a biased bishop and again must be reviewed with skepticism due to a glaring conflict of interest. In the case of Donar’s oak, the only ‘evidence’ that the account is true isn’t even evidence, but the writing of one man with an allegiance to the pope and his agenda.

Concerning the Druids and native Germanic pagans, most of their history is claimed to have been passed down orally from generation to generation and did not keep written records, or so we have been told by ‘the authorities’ on the matter. Perhaps they did keep written records, but they were destroyed, covered up and/or stolen. Either way, much effort has been put into making the truth difficult to verify and the primary sources used by historians and academics today were largely written by authors who had clear spiritual and political motivations/bias.

I can’t say what modern pagans believe because now there are so many different groups within it, but many of them were born and raised into Christianity, eventually rejecting it in favor of pagan theology. Having been loosely associated with pagan community at large for several years, I can tell you that they come in many colors and flavors. It’s ultimately up to the individual to determine what works best for them, and there is a lot to choose from and explore independently. As far as Mount Olympus is concerned, it’s a matter of faith, much like any other spiritual tradition.

When talking about witchcraft today, discernment is critical to understanding as it is in all things. Most people have no clue what it actually is and their idea of witchcraft is tainted with malicious propaganda and slander. With a little digging and genuine determination to find the truth, it can be found but it’s not an easy road. Keep in mind that this is nothing new- the Abrahamic faiths and their mindless lemmings have been slandering our Gods for centuries now and these people control public perception via media, education, religion, etc.. So it’s hard to say if the pre-Ottoman pagan ritual are witchery in the sense the public thinks about witchery today. The two are not the same. One is real and the other is a wholly corrupted fabrication.

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@Dude

Thanks for chiming in. I’m not an academic in regards to the Ottoman wars history, but I am aware they were essentially European Christian nations vs. Islamic nations. I have no problem with that, assuming they were fighting a defensive war against a foreign people who sought to conquer them. I recall a documentary about Vlad Dracula and his efforts against the Ottomans during that time period under the banner of the Orthodox church but I need to do more research and self-education on the subject. History tends to get confusing as the centuries elapse and I’m skeptical of “the facts” that are given through mainstream channels. If you have any good sources concerning the history of the crusades you mentioned, I’d be interested to take a look at them.

In my original post, I was just loosely using the word “crusades” in reference to the Christianization of Pagan European tribes and nations, which often occurred by the tip of the sword- “convert or die” type situations, mostly by the Catholic church and it’s agents. One such crusade was the Albigensian crusade headed by pope Innocent III against the Cathars in France. The Cathars were technically Gnostics, but the church considered them heretics and had them executed in horrible ways. To the Catholic church, anyone who was not under their control were considered “pagan”, “satanic” or “heretics”, which are derogatory words used to demonize European tribal natives for practicing the spirituality of their ancestors. It’s still used today by Christians of every stripe to vilify anyone who ‘hasn’t accepted Christ’, and is further reinforced via Hollywood films and other propaganda. Scare tactics. ‘Your Gods are evil, the spawn of Satan, convert or be slain, witch!’ etc. etc. etc.. They’d go village to village and force the women and children on their knees in a line after slaying the men. They’d then go down the line with a priest and executioner walking hand-in-hand, asking a simple question: ‘do you denounce your Gods and accept Jesus as your only lord and savior?’ If the answer was no, they would be executed on the spot and simply move to the next person. If they answered yes, they were taken and slaves and treated as toys for the enjoyment of their perverted priest class. Yes, they especially enjoyed little boys and nothing has changed there!

Mind you these wars weren’t just about religion, they were also genocides of specific European stock. Genetically, they carried certain traits such as Rh- (O- specifically) blood type, red hair, and were known to be naturally gifted in the areas of psychic premonitions, divination, healing and achieving heightened states of awareness. They were sought out ruthlessly by the church, but it’s not a genocide that is often talked about. You could say it was “white vs. white”, but genetically they were quite different. These people could not be controlled through religion as they already had direct connection to what could be called Divinity. The “snakes” that St. Patrick rid from Ireland weren’t actual snakes, they were this bloodline. They were called “Serpents” and “Dragons” and there is no shortage of disinformation about who these people really were, so discretion is critical when trying to research them because most of the widely available information was written by their enemies.

The “witchery” as you call it was present in Europe and all over the world for thousands of years before the modern, bastardized Christian church showed up with all of it’s polluted and disfigured ‘wisdom’. The original wisdom was stolen from the Serpents and perverted to control and enslave the world spiritually, psychologically and physically (my how far they have come!). Ever wonder what was in the library of Alexandria? Or what stolen treasures rest beneath the vile bastion known as the vatican? Surely if they had nothing to hide, they would make their libraries open to the public; but they have a lot of stock in keeping the population ignorant and sedated, filling their head with lies. Most people have no clue about history because it’s been carefully erased and the market flooded with disinformation. The last thing they want is people becoming truly enlightened, because such people are ungovernable. Most of the secrets of the Serpents died with them when they were burned alive and slaughtered wholesale not too long ago, but it’s accessible to those who truly desire it.

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MaryBloody,

Are you suggesting a female version of mgtow will emerge? It’s already happened with feminism: they have been convinced that they don’t need a man, are independent and can do everything a man can do. They’ve traded men for the illusion of independence and a surrogate father/husband via the state and employer. Of course we all know this is a lie, and even the staunchest of feminists aren’t truly convinced of their rhetoric. Deep down, below the programming they know it’s false and so spend all their time desperately trying to convince themselves, creating echo chambers to cheer women on while drowning out criticism with megaphones and numbers. It’s mob mentality. I’m not sure how things are in Argentina, but am curious if it’s comparable to conditions in the West.

Concerning return to tradition: once it’s lost and connection has been severed culturally, it’s very difficult to return at a societal level for various reasons. What I’m seeing start to happen is men reclaiming their masculinity and embracing the warrior within them. In it’s healthiest manifestation, this connects men back to their instincts and causes them to do great things, and become the type of man other men want to be: heroic in the classical sense. The unhealthy expression you’ve experienced with dominator-type men is a misfiring of instincts and cultural decay that supports and feeds such misfiring. Again, healthy relating isn’t about control: who is the master or who is the slave. At it’s foundation, a healthy relationship connected to instinct between a man in a woman is love, pure and simple; and love is something that cannot be forced or demanded, it must be given freely and shared freely as one chooses with whom they choose. Men desiring to dominate women as he would a slave is a frustrated and misaligned response to the Adlerian power principle, which has also been the driving force of feminism: power. Power has nothing to do with love, they are two separate principles.

I was actually raised in Catholic schools (not actually Catholic myself, however) and personally know several large, white families. One of them has 9 children! In all cases, the father is a doctor (one a neurosurgeon). So does that mean Catholicism is the answer for our race to thrive? I don’t think so, but it can provide the framework and social support structure for those who desire large, Catholic families. Then again, white folk were fruitful and thriving long before the Catholic church showed up.

It’s difficult for me to agree that the men who criticize modern women are as modern as they are because: would a “modern” man ever criticize a woman? No, because modern men have been trained and conditioned to never criticize or question women. The ones doing the criticizing are outliers and rebels, they are not the norm, and stand in direct opposition of modernity’s zeitgeist.

Why do you feel you must choose between abusive Islamist, abusive westerner or being alone?

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Mary,

While there is degeneracy within the “mgtow” community as a whole, let’s not forget that a group is only as good as it’s members. Today, any man can claim to be mgtow and create mgtow content. There are no set standards for joining; therefore, degenerates of every variety can claim to be mgtow and it negatively reflects the group as a whole. Then again, mgtow isn’t really a group, but a philosophy. Let’s also not forget that there are our enemies who infiltrate popular groups such as mgtow in order to spread their propaganda, push their agenda and lead men back to the plantation.

That being said, mgtow can mean many things depending on who you ask. Many men are mgtow because they feel they have no other choice than to be alone. Others are frustrated with the absolute state of women, are tired of the unbridled hypergamy and being seen as a tradable commodity, opening up to a woman intimately and establishing an emotional bond only to be monkeybranched, divorced only to lose everything they’ve worked their entire life for (including access to their children) etc.. For a man to focus on himself, pursue what makes him happy and develop mastery in the various areas of his life is the best advice I could give a man today. If that’s “mgtow” then so be it. Of course you have a lot of bitter, angry and resentful men in the mgtow community as a whole, but can you blame them? Personally, I advocate healthy relating between men and women and so avoid the blame game because we can all do better. Prostitutes and porn are not the answer, either.

Of course the outrage from women is to be expected as men wise up to the ruse and go their own way. This happens when entitled women who believe that the primary focus of a man’s life should be them. The good, self-respecting men get tired of their selfish behavior and worldview and decide to simply focus on themselves and work towards self-mastery, which are things a man should be doing anyway. Let’s not forget that the whole reason for a man to acquire resources, become financially successful and provide a stable environment is for the future generation of his children and grandchildren. Women make the mistake of thinking it’s all for them when it’s not. This is part of the problem.

Men are becoming more and more fed up with modern women and dating, and the risks associated with marriage for a man are astronomical. It’s not the same for women. They take little risk while enjoying all the benefits a man can provide. Then again, modern women have been convinced by malicious propaganda that “I don’t need a man” and end up alone because of their own choices. If you’re here on this site already, then you’re probably already at least somewhat aware of this.

I’m also aware of the degeneracy and hatred of women in the ns/white groups as well. This is to be resisted and avoided. Seeking a woman who will “submit to my authority” and treating her as a slave (such as we see in Islamic countries) is a violent reaction to losing control and is not the answer. Relationships should not be about who is “in control” of the other, as this is unhealthy and dysfunctional relating. The goal should be healthy relating connected to instinct, not determining who is the master and who is the slave.

Women are wired at an instinctual level to anticipate a man who is strong, self-determined, ambitious, aggressive (in a healthy manner) and able to make critical decisions as a leader. Being a leader is not the same as being a slave-master, and I am sorry if you have been exposed to or had experiences with such men. I can affirm that they do unfortunately exist in the white groups and are more common than one might think, so your caution in dating from these pools is justified. Just because someone is part of a white nationalist or traditionalist movement doesn’t make them a good person. Again, I know from direct involvement in some of these groups which I no longer associate with due to some of the reasons you’ve mentioned. We have to be discerning, intuitive and apply critical thinking wherever we go in order to safeguard ourselves from harmful influences, ideas, people, etc..

All that being said, I wish you luck in your endeavor to find a suitable partner.

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