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February 13, 2025 at 6:21 am #24267
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Participant@deckenfarbe
What don’t I like about it?
Very wordy for an advertisement.
Image doesn’t work that well with all the text in front of it.
I think the very pointy letters and dots inside of “O” and “U”s is a bit distracting.It’s got a line in there at the end about not being racist, but everyone left of center will scream racist at it anyways. It feels weak and pandering to hostile forces to do that, and a bad use of advertisement space. If you want some legal cover, put it in fine print. Maybe some Whites need a message that tells them “It’s not racist to date White people”, maybe that helps them get over their artificially imposed hang-ups, but it didn’t work for me anyways. I acknowledge White underground propagandists have a long history of being ineffective because they made propaganda that appealed to themselves rather than the broad masses.
I haven’t really thought through a good alternative, but I think we want an unblocked photo that conveys something desirable on a deep level. I think there should only be a line or two in large letters, and then have some smaller text for those that were intrigued enough for a closer look.
@Jamesman
I’ve long noticed “algorithm riding” to bury things. For example, look up “social engineering” and all you’re going to get is non-technical ways to hack into organizations’ systems.I honestly don’t have a clue what fertile-age White Women are browsing for. Pumpkin Spice? Astrology? Weight loss? Book club trends? Might be worth some research.
@Leo
I’m generally available (struggling to work on my projects, frittering from one invention idea to the next). You hike, there’s a bunch of trails around here. Whatever you’re feeling up for, I’ll see it in a DM, or less frequently protonmail.Sucks you have to move over a state for work.
I’ve basically stalled-out finding women here.
I have a hard time getting the people I mentioned to look at evidence. They can only tolerate so much before they dismiss it as untrue propaganda. I think they, and many like them, are a bit mentally lazy when it comes to this sort of topic, and are always looking for an easy dismissal. Their preferred entertainment furthermore feeds them tons of copes to use when parts of their worldview are undermined.My Dad thinks I’m a conspiracy monger too. He’s up in a dander about Elon being a Nazi currently.
If the Jews don’t think they need to genocide you to rule the world, that’s a bad sign for your race.
That’s very good to hear that you get through to some people. Thanks for taking those risks, even after losing the Irishman. The people you awaken may tell others, and who knows, maybe this game of telephone leads to the next hero to organize an effective resistance.
February 6, 2025 at 6:05 am #24179Ted
Participant@Leo
That was a good evening a while back.
If this thread doesn’t get any traction, I’m definitely interested in the topic of converting through conversation. I’ve got two high value people I’m trying to persuade and it’s not going well. One’s a rich old boomer, the other is a small business owner with a dozen employees.
February 4, 2025 at 3:57 am #24124Ted
ParticipantWomen may be evolved around being less dominant, but I’m with Adolf on this one: each has their domain, and each should try to make cohabitation work.
files.catbox.moe/5smto1.mp4
January 30, 2025 at 5:24 am #24092Ted
ParticipantI’m starting to compromise at age 37. As signs of aging start to set in, it lights a fire under me that I didn’t have in my 20’s. However, I do consider turning money into children by doing not only the surrogate, but paying some high-stats college girl (likely ruined by feminism anyways) for one of her egg sacks, so I can increase my odds of having engineer children. Having been raised by a single dad, I suppose becoming a single dad feels oddly normal.
I don’t plan to go this route, but since you asked about other alternatives to children out there, literally cloning. Champion race horses get clones in real life, regularly. They insisted they never do humans in a 60 minutes interview. Bullshit. If the money and technology is there, it’s happening. If you’re interested in raising your infant identical twin, it’s out there.
January 30, 2025 at 5:00 am #24091Ted
ParticipantI don’t know, but it might be something like this:
Government passes a bunch of measures in the 1960’s to fight pro-white racial discrimination in hiring.
Government wants to know if businesses are racially discriminating.
Government asks them for the statistics on the races of people that applied to make that determination.
Businesses don’t want to bother with unprofitable tasks, but government will cause them problems if they don’t.
Every White applicant that’s rejected makes their discrimination numbers look better.
Everyone knows that hiring discrimination is actually anti-white, so non-whites will be quick to volunteer their non-whiteness.
If you have someone refusing to give their race, it’s therefore most likely a White person screwing up their discrimination stats.If I’m right, then they are interested in potentially hiring you as a White man, but in the event they don’t choose you, they want their Whites rejected ratio to keep them from getting penalized.
January 30, 2025 at 4:38 am #24090Ted
ParticipantI was at a party the other night and dating apps came up. It was alleged that dating apps used to be very data driven, and that in internet archive you can find pages from old OK Cupid discussing how to make good algorithms for matching people. Then two companies bought up almost all of the online dating apps, and they’re not at all interested in helping you match, because that’s bad for their business model. There are certain questions like “have you watched a prime time TV show in the last year”, that can be surprisingly good for matching people. I imagine that if someone wanted to make a good dating site from scratch, they could probably get decent results with a 20-30 point questionnaire.
January 25, 2025 at 10:52 pm #24073Ted
ParticipantThe first thing I wonder about: is the phrase “dating apps white genocide”, really a thing, or did the AI just assume it was and start writing authoritatively about it? (they’re designed to seem credible above all else).
If the Jewed-out dating sites really give the good profiles to brown members, then why not take advantage of that? If I start a Black profile, and then swap out the photos later, what happens? What if I keep switching between a brown photo and a White photo?
I worry about dating profiles as a way to get doxed. If they see my preferences, they’ll profile me quickly. I think I need to somehow get a credit card under a false identity, get a phone plan from the false bank account, and only ever have a physically connected battery in the phone out at some park where there’s no cameras to watch the parking lot.
A while ago I made a thread asking about White date alternatives, this was a list I made from it:
unveed.com
unvaccinated-dating.com
unjabbed.dating
unjected.com
Wasp.loveElenas Models
Swipe left/Right
Trump.dating, DonaldDaters, Righter, Conservatives Only, Patrio
E-harmonyconscioussingles.com
OKCupidJanuary 21, 2025 at 6:07 am #24031Ted
ParticipantI perceive Trump as all for Jewish power, and that Jewish power is a much bigger problem than non-Whites in White Nations. Without the Jews, the non-Whites would be handled fairly and in a timely manner.
Trump appears to be, like Regan, a pressure release valve to prevent real right wing opposition. He’ll attack the woke, have some deportations, promote feel-good civic nationalism, and get large swaths of White America to go back to sleep and actually normalize some of the New World Order gains from the last decade (if not promote digital ID for the deportations). At worst, the phony national euphoria is a ploy to get young Whites to go fight WW3 in Eurasia.
For the left wing, Trump is being promoted as something worse than Hitler. Gun sales are increasing with far left loons who think Trump is going to put them in concentration camps. The George Floyd circus shows that after letting TDS build for a while, the tension can be unleashed as a battering ram for New World Order objectives. Those gullible fools aren’t ready to kill or die in mass yet, but their craziness is perhaps by design going to reach new heights under Trump 47, and maybe again be released just before the next national election.
From the perspective of someone Loyal to the White Race, a Trump presidency is a slight reprieve from socialist excesses, but because of it, efforts to spread awareness will be more challenging.
January 18, 2025 at 7:43 am #23984Ted
Participant@Aster
Even woke media recognizes the propensity of ginger characters to being replaced:
fortressofsolitude.co.za/is-hollywood-replacing-redheaded-characters-with-black-actors/A cartoon about the subject that I find amusing:
yt2mate.top/youtube-to-mp4-download?url=TUABYUuX84IMoloch/Baal worship and child sacrifice comes from the Phoenicians. This is something elite and/or weird Jewish families still do to this day. I wonder how far back the elite continuity goes. Sabbatean Jews are to the best of my knowledge/speculation the ones that both run things and have the most horrid customs from their “purity through sin” philosophy.
yt2mate.top/youtube-to-mp4-download?url=QbD51DNN3c8Didn’t know about the Chinese Tarim Basin mummies. That makes it sound like ancient gingers inhabited Eurasia and North America. There’s a book called “the grand chessboard” that’s about efforts to conquer Eurasia to control the world. Makes me wonder if ancient red-heads won the grand chess game but then lost somehow.
January 18, 2025 at 7:11 am #23982Ted
ParticipantI can design and machine metal parts, reload ammo, a little programming, operate a 3D printer, build concrete and wooden structures, do simple chemistry (apply metallic coatings, follow formulas from google patents), and cook acclaimed bachelor chow.
I think that’s it for me crafting useful things. I can also do weird drawings and paintings that unsettle and amuse.
The drop off in craft skills may be related to how much of young people’s lives are spent online.
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January 18, 2025 at 6:50 am #23981Ted
ParticipantThat’s the highest quality response I’ve gotten in the Whitedate forums. Maybe I’m naive to accept it all on face value, but I do. This seriously rewrites decades of my impressions of the Japanese. If Japan is just a clean facade (there’s a stereotype about saving face being incredibly important for east Asians), then does that mean Whites are truly alone in this world? Is the non-White world just a fetid hell of humanoid animals, nowhere fit for cohabitation? In my disillusionment, I feel like the best goal we could have for the future is an all White planet. I’ve never wanted that before.
For months now I’ve only been able to view the first page of any White Date forum post, so I won’t be able to read any replies. Thank you very much for you world-view altering insights. The relatively low GDP per capita of Japan no longer feels suspicious. I no longer think it’s just them getting screwed over by international bankers, I think that’s what you’d get from a sort of smart but corrupt, dare I say soulless, society. Thank you ergo.
January 13, 2025 at 3:32 am #23952Ted
ParticipantLol, DEI people would totally run with that, to discredit Europeans resisting Turk and African immigration.
I wonder about the ancient red hair thing vs the Jews. Woke Disney is big into erasing red-heads. In the Jews’ story of Jacob and Esau that explains the Jew-gentile relationship, Esau, who lost his divine right to rule the world to his conniving brother, had red hair. Jews have some BS about sacrificing red-haired heifers when their messiah comes to dominate the gentiles. There’s the aforementioned “native” American stories about red-haired giants being here before them. Red heads in ancient Egypt shows quite a range from the British isles.
You know how the zodiac great year is ~26,000 years? Sometimes I wonder if there’s been some continuity in human groups going back several millennium, and as a consequence, the Jews as the inheritors of the Phoenicians and whoever the Phoenicians spun-off from, are seeking to genocide red-heads as a result of stuff from pre-history.
January 13, 2025 at 3:03 am #23951Ted
ParticipantWhile I have no intention to move to Japan, I perhaps have rose-tinted glasses for them due to anime, video games, and a pleasant business trip a few years ago. I respect them for their high average IQ, and clean, safe, homogeneous society. Also, for standing against the Jew world order in WW2.
Therefore, I’m fascinated to know more about the unflattering realities of the Japanese that a White would pick up from extended contact.
Not just them, but north east Asians in general are more obedient conformists than all other peoples. They have intelligence, but not necessarily innovation or risk tolerance. The Japanese in particular are known for suicidal salary men. Their work culture praises long hours over actual productivity.
Regarding the simplistic racism of the Japanese, that might be the best you can get out of a general populace. I suspect it’s relatively few of any race that take principled stands for their people. If Whites had even a simple self-serving self identity, I expect we’d be doing a lot better now. That’s probably why Slavs will end up the last Whites standing.
I’m very curious about “They are industrialized but not civilized”, is that just in reference to East Asians ending up under brutal dictatorships because they’re less likely to risk themselves for collective liberty?
January 11, 2025 at 10:48 pm #23943Ted
Participant@Ergo
Thank you for your insights. It’s too bad for the existence of the Japanese that the general racism of the populous isn’t stopping mass immigration efforts.January 11, 2025 at 10:40 pm #23942Ted
Participant@RHNegative
I think Negros are more evolved around dancing and singing, like that’s way more important for reproductive odds in African tribes, but they have these 500 word oral-only languages and small prefrontal cortexes, so it makes sense to me that Whites could compete with or excel them in music that requires high language proficiency. Negro music also tends to be lower attention span, compared to White classical music or progressive rock that builds for a while. Jazz is undisciplined and intuitive, it bears the stamp of not evolving with deadly winters.
The three Mr. Bond songs that I checked out didn’t really focus on Jews, but Hook Nose is exactly the sort of song that proves legitimacy, because by the time false opposition has to call out the Jews to have a place at the table, it’s already over for their benefactors.
“and ain’t no such things as half semites
a drop of blood will suffice, they’re kikes”
I find that amusing because I have a quarter Jewish friend that’s always encouraging me to miscegenate and down-plays Jewish conspiracies. I think it might have been Mein kampf or Hitler’s unfinished second book where he talked about a guy with very distant Jewish ancestry that acted like a total Kike.January 11, 2025 at 10:07 pm #23941Ted
ParticipantShort easily found articles about blue-eyed ancient Egyptians:
ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/new-research-shows-some-ancient-egyptians-were-naturally-fair-haired-005812
ncesc.com/geographic-faq/did-ancient-egyptians-have-blue-eyes/
smh.com.au/technology/some-ancient-egyptians-were-natural-blondes-20160426-gof9hn.htmlThe Richat Structure (eye of Africa), has some similarities to Plato’s description of Atlantis. By having huge of concentric rings with some breaks, ancients could move supplies all around by individually owned boats, sort of paralleling car ownership. In ancient times, it could have had river access to the Atlantic ocean. I forget the source, but somewhere I’ve seen speculation about Blue-eyed people 40,000 to 25,000 years ago spreading to Europe, rather than necessarily being indigenous.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure
January 7, 2025 at 3:04 am #23926Ted
ParticipantI checked out some Mr. Bond on an alternative YouTube front end. It was great on message, although he seems to be holding out some hope for Trump to not abandon White America.
Europeans used to have rhyming insult exchanges called “flyting”, essentially rap battles go back to at least the 5th century.
January 2, 2025 at 3:19 am #23899Ted
ParticipantIn this American’s opinion, the election mattered for small things, but not the big picture.
Some positive expectations:
Woke stuff gets slightly rolled back.
A watered-down version of mass deportation happens.
By threatening Tariffs, Trump gets some leverage on illegal immigration and drug sources.
There will be a period up until the midterms designed to lull conservative America back to sleep (if a major war doesn’t break out)
The pandemic treaty dies.Some negative expectations:
Digital ID or CBDCs will be attempted still.
There will be new legal restrictions on calling out the Jews.
America will become decreasingly White.
America will go a little further in bailing out Israel than it might have otherwise.December 31, 2024 at 5:41 am #23895Ted
Participant@Leo
I agree, Tom stood out during the pandemic; I don’t know of any earlier anti-woke wrappers. He did make a big deal about being an independent producer (with his girlfriend using the last name Rockefeller), but he does make a lot of money and only goes as far as chastising anti-White discrimination. Is this controlled opposition, so the topic of White survival is avoided? Could be, could easily not be too: I had essentially Tom’s position when I was in high school.
I really enjoyed that Chris Webby video, hadn’t heard of him before. I don’t know of a term for the post-war WW2 slaughter. For some reason I really identify with those young late-war draftees that were starved to death in allied camps. I get a sense of “that could have been me”. If those young men got a chance to live again, I like to imagine they’d be more active than me.
There’s some highly repressed corners of the internet that make hilarious jew-aware parody songs, as such they’re unknown next to content that gets to exist on Youtube. Sometimes it pops up on GoyimTV.com.
December 31, 2024 at 5:04 am #23894Ted
Participant@Aster I’m sure a good number of German archeologists survived WW2. Despite the nationwide denazification program, they were probably able to research ancient structures and civilization.
December 25, 2024 at 9:56 pm #23863Ted
Participant1) No organism that gives up the struggle for survival has a future.
2) A group that fails to perceive itself as a group is doomed to others that do.
3) A small minority writes public programming. They have addresses. They use transportation.
4) The rot is based out of cities. Cities die without bridges, electricity, or water.
5) Those fighting for unnecessary material gains have dramatically less tenacity than those fighting for group survival.
6) Mass surveillance and infiltration are most useful for putting out small furtive fires. Study operational security.
7) There’s time enough to deprogram a generation of children and get their help as adults.
8) Our enemies are motivated by propaganda since childhood, counter propaganda can reduce their fervor.
9) Think about the situation from the enemy’s perspective. If you were trying to eliminate Whites and rule the Browns with a world government, what would you be afraid of going wrong?
10) Complacency and inaction are our greatest weakness, even more so than empathy for out-group members, or an easily hijacked instinct for reciprocity (more vulnerable to guilting). What would it take for you to take some personal risks?
We can’t run forever, but there is sense in consolidating ourselves.
December 24, 2024 at 11:00 am #23857Ted
ParticipantThanks for making this thread, digital ID is one of my biggest concerns. Judging by “The New Order Of the Barbarians” by Dr. Lawrence Dunegan, this has been part of a plan to enslave the public since before 1969. It is absolutely a slave collar being gently fitted around our collective necks (or rather under our skin), and will be used coercively when enough of our lives are in their hands that they don’t think we’ll be able to fight back.
I could be doing more. I could at least use a credit union instead of a bank for my paychecks (I think my employer may require the direct deposit). I have a lot of silver, but I haven’t found anyone to trade it with for goods. I’m expecting real-ID in 2025 to be the end of me flying, even if work would require it.
I dropped Paypal after it leaked that they were tentatively planning to fine users something like $2500 for “hate speech” (as defined by the ADL and SPLC). They reeled it back quickly, but that trial balloon was enough for me to bail.
Resistance works if enough people join in. The manufactures and distributors of covid thought they’d get 90% compliance and steamroller the remaining 10% with heavy-handed methods. The fact they only got 70% is the only reason it doesn’t take a vaccine passport on a smart phone to go to the grocery store now. However, when the method of achieving biometric digital ID doesn’t come in the form of zero-liability experimental gene therapy, but instead internet security or some sort of ID system to prove US citizenship to facilitate mass deportations, will 30%+ still resist?
I wish I could be part of a parallel economy. I think parallel systems are key when the primary system serves to gradually exterminate Whites and help Jews enslave Gentiles in the long run. I don’t know how to find an underground buyer for engineering hours, but if I can launch a company off an invention idea, maybe that could give me the power to do SOMETHING to help locally.
There’s websites here and there that encourage Monero use and list businesses that accept that cryptocurrency, but they don’t tend to sell necessities. Maybe with some capital, underground advertising, and a few people willing to risk shit with the IRS, goods could be fenced from common online vendors and traded to people for Monero. The party trading Monero gets to buy things without electronic records linking it to them. There’s demand for that.
I’d be interested in an internet cafe that has no security cameras and gives anonymous internet service. Such a place would probably become a natural meeting place for anti-surveillance contacts. As long as they have some way to keep getting ISP service again (after customers inevitably look up kiddie porn and bomb recipes), and are incorporated in a way to avoid legal liability, it could be a beautiful thing for a time.
Maybe with a couple years of promotion, there could be a crowd-funded maximally anonymizing payment processor and ISP?
There’s a lot to know about online opsec. Mental Outlaw and Rob Braxman are good resources. Alphabet can track browsers, so use a separate browser that never goes to Google, Youtube, Facebook, etc.
I also get locked out of things for not being able to do phone verification. You just find alternatives or get by without it.
Just the otherday I noticed Winco doesn’t accept credit cards. I always pay in cash, but that makes me like the employee-owned co-op more to know they’re cash, check, or debit only.
December 14, 2024 at 9:37 pm #23802Ted
ParticipantIt’s similar but better then Tom Mcdonald’s content. Doesn’t mention Whites or Jews, but still shares some important ideas.
December 14, 2024 at 9:31 pm #23801Ted
ParticipantThis ancient architecture really resonates with me.
Some native American tribes have legends of giant pale-skinned red-heads. They were said to be advanced and magnanimous, but they died out. I didn’t know there’s ancient European architecture as far west as Ohio.
December 14, 2024 at 8:33 pm #23800Ted
ParticipantWhat should a conscientious non-white man do, who wants to be on team White?
If he got a vasectomy and had his bride impregnated by a high-specs White sperm-donor, I’d allow it. It would be better for the resulting eugenics baby if they had a White dad, but I’d say yes to more eugenically enhanced babies.
If I was non-white, I might pay some White college girl who’s got good genes but has been ruined by feminism for an ovary, pair it with a high-specs White sperm donor, freeze the zygotes, then get my non-white wife to carry some to term. It’s a ton more trouble then adoption, the kids will want to know their genetic parents, but I think lots of the Whites up for adoption inherit behavioral flaws. I’d let a non-white couple raising White eugenic super babies into my ethnostate.
December 14, 2024 at 8:03 pm #23799Ted
Participant@Leo
The ADL and SPLC, who have the ear of big tech, have made the “official” definition of anti-semetism include opposition to Israel. In other words, tons of Jews are anti-semetic by the new standard.Having been canceled by my close childhood friends on the left, it’s interesting for me to hear that same “shun the non-believer” mentality from conservative America. Whether “racism” or “anti-semetism”, same circuitry.
A christian conservative I know from work has invited me to see some national-level conservative presenters at his church; Dennis Prager, Eric Metaxis, and similar. I see this pattern each time.
Phase 1) flatter the audience.
Phase 2) bash on their enemies.
Phase 3) make your enemies out to be their enemies.
Dennis, not long after talking about emotionally manipulative tactics of leftists, was able to sell a bunch of the audience on the premise that Iran opposes Israel simply because they’re evil. I thought that was too baby-brained to work. It wasn’t.We’re in a struggle for existence. I’d start viewing your cousin less like a person and more like a citizen unit to flip. She presumably has income, votes, and talks to people around her. Maybe she can also, over the course of 2 hours, be flattered, fed some confirmation bias, and then injected with thoughts she didn’t previously hold. I feel dirty for even suggesting it, and it’s easy for me to say when I’ve never done anything like this, but what is she to you now? A somewhat estranged family member? Not a lot of value in a relationship with someone that coldly regards you as with the enemy figure. If instead you can baby step her to “there’s good jews and bad jews, and the bad jews are behind liberalism”, then that can build into “Look at the Jewish role in socialism”, and eventually “The Talmud is all about enslaving the gentiles”. If you get to that last point, you don’t even need to attack Trump or her tribal identity (Republicans). She could hypothetically be made into a pro-white asset. Is she worth the effort? I don’t know, but you have rapport for being a family relation.
August 10, 2024 at 5:00 am #22494Ted
ParticipantHere you’ll probably only find a few women in your state and the surrounding states, but they’ll be more likely to be high quality dates if you can get them. I haven’t seen proof of feds yet, but sometimes anti-white activists will catfish for your info with obviously AI generated profiles.
August 10, 2024 at 4:12 am #22492Ted
ParticipantJuly 26, 2024 at 4:25 pm #22353Ted
Participant@Adam
The name gets changed to “Anonymous” and the profile pic goes away when somebody quits White Date. I think that was “Westly”, who also posted under “A Romantic Guy” or something like that. Perhaps he was too discouraged from us throwing cold water on his Trump enthusiasm.July 26, 2024 at 3:48 am #22358Ted
ParticipantA war reporter in Iraq once asked the insurgents if they had a slang nickname for the American forces occupying the country. The reporter was dismayed when they replied “the Jews”. They have a clearer image of what’s going on, and displayed great determination in Afghanistan, but I don’t have a high opinion of the behavior of Muslims in Europe.
Marcus Garvey was the biggest “Back to Africa” leader to my knowledge (1887-1940). Black Americans have had the financial means to return to Africa for several generations, not to mention free citizenship in Liberia. I think the ones that are still here stay for the money and relative safety.
Especially since Whites are becoming minorities all over the West this century, the opinions of non-Whites will become more and more relevant to our freedom and survival. It’s not ideal, but it’s the facts. Even if we can’t win most of them over, by sowing doubt in Jewish narratives, we can paralyze action against us. I think a mutually beneficial plan we might be able to sell them on is White Inflation:
*Current nonwhites and their descendants get to stay.
*Future nonwhite immigration is practically cut off.
*Incentives are created to boost the population of the US to 650,000 million with new White births (80% White)This solves the messy question of how non-whites can keep enjoying a White country, while Whites can have super-majority control of the electorate, and be giant pussies that don’t have to fight to live. Furthermore, it would tilt the balance of global power a little away from China to have America be that much bigger by filling out the sparsely populated interior.
July 25, 2024 at 6:06 am #22352Ted
ParticipantIf it doesn’t happen online, and it’s done without cell phones around, it’s hard for modern feds to know something happened. Once some of the herd start angrily mooing about some physical propaganda in their neighborhood, all the authorities can do is check video from doorbell and car cameras, and that’s fooled with disguises, putting on a limp, and wearing glasses that prevent them from getting your eye spacing.
I have not been making hay while lefties are upset about brown people being ethnically cleansed in Palestine. It really is a ripe time to talk about Jewish supremacy. The Jews are everything bad they tell normies the Nazis were; all that hate they’ve trained us to have for genocidal racial-supremacist ethnocults trying to establish 1000 year global empires, could get turned back on them with some selective Talmud quoting.
I was openly communist about 11 years ago, what turned it all around was learning the truth about racial differences. Just learning the truth about that one subject leads to lots of seemingly unrelated things falling away. What separates me from the blue haired freak is simply a different understanding of what’s true. It’s hard to export that truth to an audience raised to be unreceptive, but it’s not impossible, especially if you can identify people with muted emotional responses (like young men on the autism spectrum).
A strong self-interested case can be made to non-whites that (A) the Jews want to enslave them and (B) that they’ll be more likely to succeed without Whites around, being pathologically altruistic and fighting for the interests of others. The non-White in the West is concerned with maintaining high living standards and not being attacked by White boogeymen, truthful propaganda could be aimed at them that their living standards will tank if Whites dwindle, and that Jews create White boogeymen propaganda as part of a larger effort to enslave them.
July 20, 2024 at 2:47 am #22316Ted
ParticipantJuly 19, 2024 at 1:41 pm #22282Ted
ParticipantI second Adam’s sentiment.
Our electoral choices are between slow White genocide and fast White genocide.
Getting invested in the Trump show risks losing sight of Jewish control over both parties.As for the shocking images thread, here’s a Detroit KFC with bullet proof glass protecting the staff from the patrons.
July 18, 2024 at 3:17 am #22281Ted
ParticipantI’m in a similar situation, but I’ve had some recent success going cold turkey on my old internet addictions. People keep playing games and watching shows long after they stopped having fun. However, just a few weeks of consciously avoiding one’s old time sinks, can do a lot to weaken the habit. Something that helped motivate me to finally fix the situation was considering what sort of example would I be setting for my future kids. That seems to do better than mourning lost potential.
Having read a lot of vintage red-pill media, racially aware Whites frequently thought the collapse was imminent. I’m of the opinion that we’ve got to step-up our propaganda game instead of holding on for a collapse. Any post collapse power seizure plan needs to factor in the socialists that mean to do exactly the same thing. After WW1, when German civilization was beaten and weakened, there was an attempted socialist revolution in 1919, repelled essentially by armed patriots. The would-be usurpers were basically Antifa given international arms shipments by Jewish bankers. If we don’t get more of conservative America onto our way of thinking, we may not be the ones to seize the reigns post-collapse.
July 17, 2024 at 7:37 am #22232Ted
Participant@Leo
The motivation behind the American Civil War was to establish a 3rd bank of the united states. It was thought that the Union would have no choice but to accept a 3rd privately-owned central bank to pay for the War. Instead, Lincoln screwed them by issuing greenbacks.
I recommend this book on the matter:
archive.org/details/a-history-of-central-banking-and-the-enslavement-of-mankind-pdfdrive
July 17, 2024 at 6:13 am #22231Ted
Participant@Leo
Thanks for sharing all of that, saved.July 17, 2024 at 6:00 am #22230Ted
ParticipantThis is speculative, but I have an evolutionary biology explanation for where the Jews came from (long before the Kazarian conversion circa ~900AD)
The eastern mediteranian was at the cross roads of major ancient empires, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Babalonians, etc.
Well into the thousands of years BC, scholars, diplomats and merchants would travel between the ancient empires, and be in need of supplies on their way.
Whereas the Aryans evolved around having fair trades with strangers from other settlements, it didn’t go that way for the ancient pre-jews because of low frequency and high net worth encounters. If you regularly trade with a non-kinsmen, treating them fairly is the best survival method. If you trade rarely with the semi-affluent, the best survival tactic is to exploit them.So, the pre-jews that drove ruthless bargains and committed literal highway robbery were better able to survive and reproduce. After many generations in these circumstances, a psychopathy towards out-group members and a distaste for physical labor evolved. Borrowing heavily from Zoroastrianism, these are the type of people that would create Judaism.
Their treachery was so infamous, ancient kings would repeatedly try to end them. Coincidentally, the Kazarians who would convert ~900AD were also known as exploitative bastards and hated by their neighbors, so perhaps the religion of Judism rang true to their hearts, in addition to being a way to avoid coming under the Papacy or the Caliphate while selecting an Abrahamic faith, which they were externally pressured to do.
July 17, 2024 at 4:57 am #22229Ted
ParticipantI checked out the link to Steve Kirsch’s newsletter, and looked around for a while, but didn’t find anything supporting Vax Shedding. As far as I know, the spike proteins are only blood born.
I agree with Leo, Protocol 7’s drama relies on the audience being shocked a that a pharmaceutical company would lie for profit. That’s mundane compared to Covid being commissioned by the US government: //theintercept.com/2021/09/09/covid-origins-gain-of-function-research/
July 10, 2024 at 5:43 am #22178Ted
Participant@Aster
I thought Chocolate Cheese was just a recurring gag commercial on the Rugrats cartoon show.
https://inv.us.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=N8ZM0-TAd1cAs for spirituality and the supernatural, I’ve spent enough time studying religions, social engineering, wokism, pop-psychology, and a certain genocidal supremacist ethnocult to understand some of the mechanics behind belief systems. While my interest is usually in countering these things, learning about them provides a foundation for crafting a ritual.
However, I have engaged in self-crafted superstition before. I carved an idol from a log on a whim, guided by impulse and barely curated subconscious, and afterwards felt a transcendent aura emanate from the thick stick in my hand (the carving, that is). I also got myself half-believing a collection of knocked-off road marker bumps and reflectors, imbued with the energy of thousands of vehicles running on dinosaur souls, could grant me super powers. The reflectors were different powers, which needed the marker bumps to power them up. The large diameter marker bump could transmit the powers of an arranged collection 1.5^X blocks away, where X is the number of large diameter markers, so like a lich phylactery, I didn’t have to risk losing a collection carried on my person (incase a supernatural battle should erupt). Also, when I was a little kid, and in a risky situation, I asked god to help prepare me for what was coming, and I really felt like I’d been granted additional sturdiness from an external source. The point is, while I don’t believe, I think I know what believing feels like.
July 9, 2024 at 2:16 am #22170Ted
Participant@Tony
There was a leak from the Committee of 300 about a plan to make the population 500 million East Asians and 500 million other.Instead of no religion, it may very well be Noahidism. Christianity / Islam got the pagans onto monotheism and accepting a bunch of the Torah. The next step is to weaken those intermediate religions and get their followers onto an explicitly Jewish supremacist religion. Based on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, part of this gambit may involve bringing society at large to a moral low, then promoting Noahidism as the way out of modern despair.
bitchute.com/video/iHVA1hFauUgQTo make God’s covenant to the Jews come true, the Jews must own all private property in the world. After the failure of communism, they’ve decided to try a system where everyone rents all their possessions, as elaborated in ‘Great Reset’ documents. Covid was an attempt at laying the groundwork for digital ID, necessary for this system: thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
(note 10/10 of the road map items were attempted, the only deviation being the failure of UBI not passing)The Great Reset doesn’t seem that far off from their plans circa 1969:
https: //ia800903.us.archive.org/28/items/New_Order_of_Barbarians_remaster_tapes_1to3/New%20Order%20of%20Barbarians%20%5Bremaster%5D%20tapes%201%20to%203.mp3That man said his spirit would rise from the grave in 100 years. If we can reach gen Alpha, maybe it will be common knowledge by 2045.
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Participant@leo
It’s a big book, but I think an important book, “Stalin’s War” (2021). The Morgenthau plan was discussed in the book. Henry Morgenthau was the Jewish secretary of treasury and prominent member of the FDR administration. The plan to de-industrialize Germany, a country that relied on food imports, was estimated to kill 25 million Germans. FDR thought it was a splendid idea, but Churchill was horrified by it. Churchill, always a distant #3 in the Stalin-FDR-Churchill relationship, was basically ignored. However, the plan was leaked, it was sensational, lots of government bureaucrats from the 1940’s weren’t up to carry this out, and it ended up being effective propaganda for the NSDAP. FDR had handed the NSDAP another piece of motivation to not surrender earlier, he pledged to insist on total surrender of Germany to try to impress Stalin, in lieu of being able to open up a second front and take pressure off the USSR. Stalin saw FDR trying to impress him and intentionally played him by never being fully satisfied with his efforts. So, if it hadn’t been for FDR being a sadistic sycophant, Germany might have surrendered in 1943 to a gentler end of the conflict, and maintained national sovereignty. Instead, the only surrender allowed was total surrender, and they got word of a plan that was going to kill ~1/3 of them.Starving the Germans is a theme. After Germany surrendered in ww1 on the premise they were going to be treated fairly, they balked at the largely Jewish-written treaty of versailles’ absurd demands, so the British blockade starved them for about 10 months and killed about 800,000 Germans to coerce them into agreeing to the terms.
Haiti is another prime example of what happens when Blacks take over. Haiti used to be the jewel in France’s colonial crown, with profitable sugar plantations and stately mansions. However, liberals helped the Black slaves rebel. First they killed the plantation owners. Then they killed the French people that were incidentally there. Then they killed the liberals that helped them rebel. Then they killed the half-white mixed race islanders. Everything great the french built decayed overtime, and Haiti has been a squalid shit hole since, despite 3 efforts by the US government to raise them up, spanning back to the 19th century.
https://archive.org/details/TheLessonOfHaiti-Dr-WilliamPierceIn South Africa, liberal priests agitated to end apartheid in the 1970’s and 1980’s. It never had to go in that direction. Things rapidly went to shit the moment they ended White-lead apartheid. Picture of Cape Town South Africa in 1950:
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Participant@Leo
>patentsI appreciate that you appreciate all the patent reading. It was a bit of work, but it was also a little fun. In the course of researching this stuff, I found out about using atmospheric electricity to power corona motors. It has me thinking of ways to get high exchanger surface area, or repurposing existing towers for this by changing their foundations to be insulated from the ground. https://inv.us.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=2rVdEhyMR6A
>Intentional modification of Hurricane Henri as it approached the United States’ eastern seaboard
I don’t know enough about hurricanes to know if that’s something they periodically do or not. I note that the time went from 12:56 to 14:56 from disturbance appearance to reaching it’s maximum diameter. If I’m reading that right, about two hours. Henri was category 1, basing on a picture of Nicole 2022-11-10 that was also category 1, and which had Florida and Cuba in the shot, I’m guessing what we see in this video is about 100 miles wide. That suggests a propagation speed of around 50 mph. I don’t even know why a hurricane would seemingly contain pressure, and ooze clouds upward, but the speeds involved makes me think this has a decent chance of just being a natural phenomenon. The spill-over doesn’t seem to do anything to direction or intensity, so the energy involved to do seemingly nothing useful, also makes me doubt human intervention.
>15+ Simultaneous wildfires caused on June 2, 2023 in Quebec, Canada
I know liberal firebugs sometimes start forest fires to help make global warming seem real. Sort of like hate hoaxers, they’re afraid of something, they think society isn’t taking the scary thing seriously enough, so they false-flag the scary thing, thinking it’s for the greater good if it shakes the public out of their complacency. Here in Washington, we stopped removing undergrowth from forests around 2017, now we periodically get smokey forest fires hazing up western Washington, which are always accompanied with global warming propaganda. I think in mid 2023 the great reset was doing a pivot towards climate alarmism, which would explain disconnected simultaneous forest fires. However, not being very experienced at satellite imaging analysis, for all I know that could be water vapor instead of smoke. Also, I kind of doubt liberal firebugs would be that synchronized, but it sure looks like multiple simultaneous disconnected fires.
>Aircraft fly overhead everyday; clear blue skies one day, sprayed skies the next in Portland, Oregon
I’m guessing she’s a few miles from Portland International Airport. I know for Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, incoming planes have to go about 5 miles north of the airport, and then fly in this corridor that goes right over the city of Seattle and to the airport. Consequently, you get some vapor trails making U-turns, because they approached from the South, but then had to go a few miles north and turn around.
There may have been a problem at an airport that required a bunch of incoming planes to fly holding patterns before landing too.
>Jews in Kennedy assassination
Jack Leon Ruby, killed Lee harry Oswald while he was in custody, to prevent him from spilling the beans, and told interrogators before he himself would die while in custody, that he was worried about the public blaming Jews for the assassination.Kennedy was getting in the way of the Israeli nuclear program. I heard the Israeli prime minister sent him threatening letter about it.
June 26, 2024 at 7:25 am #21925Ted
ParticipantThanks Leo, I’m giving it a try: should be a picture of German soldiers in a concentration camp from just after WW2.
Eisenhower declared the surrendered Germans, many of them conscripted teens, as “Disarmed Enemy Forces”, a designation that put them outside the protections afforded to “Prisoners Of War”. Deprived of POW status, it was legal to starve about 1 million of those kids to death, but there were 2 million survivors. It was common for them to not have shelter, so they’d burrow in the dirt for some insulation at night. At least one camp had a single water faucet for thousands of inmates, and many dehydrated. There was a creek just beyond some barbed wire, but US solders had orders to open fire on anyone trying to get the water.
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June 26, 2024 at 5:24 am #21926Ted
ParticipantI second checking out Ted Kaczynski’s ” Industrial Society and It’s Future”.
I also liked from him “The System’s Neatest Trick”
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-system-s-neatest-trickJune 26, 2024 at 4:56 am #21924Ted
Participant@Leo
>Importance of it being specifically 9/11
There’s the dial 9-1-1 thing, it’s the anniversary of construction starting on the pentagon, there may have been some predictive programming to the date, but I expect they’d still get us into Afghanistan without those things.>Larry’s insurance payout
He had a ~2 billion dollar terrorism insurance policy, but managed to argue in court that 9/11/2001 counted as two incidents for a double payment. Very stereotypical.>Hurricane mitigation patents
These, and additional concepts I reviewed, seemed to all suffer from issues of scale. Regardless of your heating method, cooling method, or means of kinetic disruption, it’s tiny next to an average hurricane’s ~600 terawatts of heat and 1.5 terawatts of kinetic energy in wind. For comparison, the Florida electrical gird averages 25.9 gigawatts. You’re not going to be able to plug in a laser, or microwave and deliver heat on a scale that matters. They can’t fly enough planes with enough fuel-air bombs or enough liquid nitrogen to matter. So, lots of these patents talk about early detection, except only 1 in 16 tropical depressions turn into larger storms, so it would be very inefficient to try to take them all out when they’re small.US 20030085296A1: Use sound waves
It’s unclear to me why soundwaves would disrupt storms. When a sound wave hits a molecule, it pushes it forward, but then pulls it back to where it was before as the wave passes. Sort of like a water wave lifting something, but then lowering back down as the wave passes.US 20070114298A1: Pour coolant out of airplanes
A plane load of cold liquid is puny compared to the thermal energy in a hurricane.US 20070158449A1: Pour liquid nitrogen out of airplanes
This one has more math and physics, but it’s “description of invention” is inconclusive whether this could be reasonably expected to provide enough cooling.US 7434524B2: Divert hurricane eyewall into the eye with a giant boat
I’m not aware of anyone making a boat 2100 feet long, 2000 feet wide, 950 feet tall, with powerful enough engines to not get pushed around by hurricane force winds.US 7520237B1: Floating windmill pumps colder deep water to surface
They’re anchored, so you need to fill the possible paths with them. Perhaps millions of them. Not covert. No weapon potential; only weakens storms.US 20100072297A1: Fly jets in hurricane eye to heat it up
Some figures provided, but doesn’t make a hypothetical case that this is enough heat. Using nukes is frequently explored on paper and found to not be enough heat.US 20110168797A1:
Induce rain on pre-hurricanes → uncertain if rain clouds available, most pre-hurricanes don’t become hurricanes.
Dump oatmeal on eye wall. → Not enough oatmeal
Cool air in front of hurricane to steer it → how do you provide enough cooling?US 20130175352A1: Lots of fuel-air bombs in a pattern
Doesn’t make a physics case that it’s practical to obtain enough fuel air bombs.US 20180006422A1:
Remove salt ions to reduce induction heating → I’m skeptical that storm EMF produces much heating in salt water, or that it’s practical to remove the chloride ions.
Dump chemicals from plate to reduce sea conductivity → same skepticism
Use lasers for directed heating → not cost or energy practical, line of sight, dispersion at distanceUS 20200288650A1: Giant orbital microwave beam
Hard to make a microwave with enough output. Harder to get it to space. Hard to power it.US 20230050373A1: electromagnetic fields to induce rain
It’s unclear how much emf power is necessary to make clouds rain, but given the relative popularity of cloud seeding, it seems dubious.June 24, 2024 at 12:04 am #21832Ted
ParticipantHow do you embed images?
June 24, 2024 at 12:01 am #21831Ted
Participant@Leo
What might put a finer point on this obscure knowledge is the rough odds of a hurricane like that breaking to the Northeast outside of New York. There’s a big list of recorded hurricanes that hit New York, I haven’t readily found any record of the near misses. If storms like that take a similar path most of the time, then it’s trivia. If storm like that rarely break off, then we have a basis for suspicion.Whether the hurricane would have been enough to delay the ‘planes operation’ is another matter. The Jewish art groups with Mossad agents (E-Team and Gelitin) had maintenance access to WTC towers 1&2 for about 2 months. Judging by them driving out to set up a camera to record the first impact 45 minutes prior, dancing and celebrating after the planes struck and the building collapsed (hence this being referred to as the “Dancing Israelis” incident), bomb sniffing dogs indicating explosives residue in their van, the things they told FBI interrogators, the manner of the tower collapses, and how 9/11 got America to go to the middle east and knock over some governments Israel didn’t like and build up the surveillance state, I think the interests behind this were clear.
Now, Larry A. Silverstein, a Jewish Billionaire had bought the WTC complex just a couple months prior. He took out a giant terrorism insurance policy, allowed E-Team and Gelitin maintenance access, and him and his family broke off from their usual routines on 9/11 and just happened not to go to the towers that morning. What if there had been a storm bad enough to ground aircraft? Wouldn’t they just wait a couple days and do it then? Was there some special numerology over having it be 9/11 that would have been worth risking exposure of secret weather control? As far as I know, if it had been the 9/13 attacks, the New World Order Jews would have still got everything they wanted.
It’s noteworthy that lots of early 9/11 truth movements would entertain any idea except Jews did it. Miniature nukes, ancient Egyptian energy weapon, UFOs, anything got consideration except the freaking Mossad agents that got arrested that day, and later said on Israeli television they were there to “record the attacks”. Based on some early 9/11 truth DVDs with Jewish hosts, pointing the finger squarely at the US gov only, I think Jewish psyops had been planned prior to 9/11 to keep the narrative from unraveling, by pointing “truthers” in harmless directions, and then holding them up for Normie audiences as an example of anyone doubting the narrative being a crazy conspiracy theorist. Also, Saudia Arabia was their junior partner in this, and setup as the fall guy. The media made sure the public heard 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, that when air traffic was grounded for 3 days the Saudis were allowed to fly home, and the Jewish lead 9/11 commission had all the redacted pages from their report about evidence linking the Saudis, all so they could throw Saudi Arabia under the bus if plan A came apart.
So, the suggestion that weather control was used to keep the skies clear, at first blush sounds a bit fantastic and unnecessary. I’m not aware of any efforts to build weather control a few orders of magnitude more powerful than HARP. However, the weather control hypothesis doesn’t interfere with the basic facts (the planes, the Israelis, the explosives), so I hesitate to condemn it as misdirection. I know the New World Order crowd has interest in weather control as a deniable weapon. I think they’ve also planned to use terrorism around the end of the 20th century since before 1969 in case their plans weren’t going fast enough (https://archive.org/compress/New_Order_of_Barbarians_remaster_tapes_1to3/formats=VBR%20MP3&file=/New_Order_of_Barbarians_remaster_tapes_1to3.zip). If they had weather control technology, proven and well tested, this might be a practical time to use it. Without any proof besides their desires and intentions though, it does make me weary that appending 9/11 with “weather control” could be used to make normies allergic to the matter, and the non-mainstream revelation of Mossad involvement.
@JordanL
Articles on “micronova” make it sound like a phenomenon between white dwarf stars in binary systems. One starts to ingest the other, and one white dwarf’s magnetic field localizes torn away accretion disk from the other to it’s poles.I offer another explanation for the Great Reset / agenda 2030’s aggressive timeline. Since before 1969, they thought they’d get the new world order system by the end of the 20th century, or they’d use terrorism then to accelerate things (see the earlier link in this post). However, by ~2014, the war on terror was dragging on, and things were still looking pretty stalled-out in terms of getting digital ID and the Goyim off of private property. The people in charge of this effort were all getting really old: Klaus Swab, Henry Kissinger, Jacob Rothschild, etc. These old guys thought they were going to live to see the inauguration of the new system, and had been looking forward to it since middle age. When it started to look like they wouldn’t live to see it, they started making aggressive moves and scaring the sheep.
Introduce obscure knowledge:
The American civil war was instigated by Jews/Freemasons to get a third bank of the united states and to split America into two factions that could be periodically sent to war with each other, driving up enormous debts. (the plan effort failed)
The first bank of the united states (privately held institution allowed to create money out of nothing and loan it to the treasury) had a 20 year charter that was allowed to expire, promoting the war of 1812. The resolution of the war of 1812 was the creation of the 2nd bank of the united states, again with a 20 year charter. Andrew Jackson won a giant domestic political battle to not renew the charter for the second bank of the USA, surviving assassins, and prevailing against controlled media and bought politicians. In the 1840’s there were some political efforts to try to renew the bank charter, but these fizzled out. So, the Jewish bankers started using propaganda to inflame anti-slave and pro-states-rights sentiments to eventually get the country ready for a civil war. It was assumed the federal government would need to institute a 3rd bank of the US to debt spend for the war, but Lincoln betrayed the banks by issuing greenbacks, and managed to preserve the union. John Wilkes Booth was a member of “the golden circle”, likely sent ultimately by Jewish bankers for revenge. Another little known fact is that the Russian fleet kept Europe out of the American Civil War. The fleet’s deployment cost 7.2 million dollars, and so an arrangement was made where our secretary of the interior bought Alaska for 7.2 million dollars, in lieu of having the power to just pay the Russians directly. This was criticized because Alaska was seen as a worthless wasteland at the time, but that perspective misses the angle of paying off the Russians for their help against England, keeping them from helping the South.June 19, 2024 at 10:45 pm #21786Ted
ParticipantI failed to check the second page of thread replies.
Honestly, if a date started out with the woman offering me a good piece of cheese, that would considerably boost my interest.
June 19, 2024 at 10:41 pm #21785Ted
ParticipantIf a pre-made spell isn’t available, why don’t we engineer one?
What are the qualifications of the people that make magic rituals anyways?
Let’s try to make a husband-finding spell from first-principles.Aspect 1) Pair it with actual husband finding activity.
The execution of the spell can provide a psychological boost to the user, that psychological boost could improve performance on a date or give encouragement to spend more time on husband-finding activities. So, we should frame our spell as improving the effectiveness of known date-finding methods. That way, mechanisms that actually find husbands are involved.Aspect 2) The user needs to be able to put their faith in the spell.
Somebody who’s seeking a magic spell already wants it to work, but if it loses credibility, they’ll stop using it. So, the spell shouldn’t make hard guarantees that are easily falsifiable. As a corollary, there should be some language suggesting that the rituals can stack, that is to say, keep doing it, and it will work better. This gets the user to do more of whatever our actual date-finding mechanism is, but they have to believe that doing the ritual helps more than just doing those activities.Aspect 3) Involve a sacrifice.
People will tend to value something in relation to what they gave up to obtain it. If the Husband finding spell involved smashing an iPhone, anyone that did the ritual would have high expectations that they would receive magic help consummate to the value of an iPhone. So, we should probably dial down expectations, and keep the sacrifice value levels affordable enough to promote repetition. Maybe a food item? Like they have to throw a tomato or eggs at a tree or something? It would be handy if the sacrifice were biodegradable.Aspect 4) Ritual credibility.
The magic ritual has to SEEM like a magic ritual to get that sweet placebo boost. What does a legit magic ritual look like? As a Westerner raised on western entertainment, I think we’re looking at geometric shapes, numerology, candles or other open flames, spilled blood, drugs, chanting, wearing hoods, rhyming incantations, expressly stated symbology during the ritual “this sheep’s severed head is a symbol of death to the meek”, being super particular about the order of operations, doing the spell at a time of day that’s supposed to mean something “We do this at 3:22AM because of some Greek mystery cult leader from 322 BC”, etc. None of these are strictly needed, but the user has to be able to believe they’re possibly messing with forces beyond comprehension, and playing to their expectations of magic will help that.Picking themes)
This is about a search for love and family. That could be framed optimistically “Yay! Let’s go find love!”. That could be framed pessimistically “Oh Shit! I’m getting old and losing dating value!”. While fear of loss is often more motivating than potential for gain, my instinct is telling me to go optimistic on this one. We want to increase energy to get them doing some activity to find dates.Ritual elements that pair with an optimistic outlook:
Done during daylight hours.
Done outside.
Rhyming lines asking for help finding a husband, have some lines that help visualize being happy with the husband in the future.
We are asking (something) for help finding a husband, so naturally we feel like we should give in exchange for that help.
What is (something) and what does it want? It could be a love god/goddess. Aphrodite was an ancient Greek love goddess.I found this article on praying to Aphrodite:https://mythologysource.com/how-to-pray-to-aphrodite/
Based on common sacrifices of pigs, thigh meat, and burning the offerings, I’m thinking we go with burnt bacon and a chicken thigh. So, go outside, build a little pyre of sticks in a burn pit, and put 3 strips of bacon in a triangle, and a chicken thigh in the center. One bacon strip is you. One bacon strip is your future husband. One bacon strip is your future first child. The chicken thigh is the happy life all three share together. In place of a statue, print out a picture of Aphrodite, and tape it to a stand, so you can impel her to super-charge your dating efforts. The burning meat smoke means the goddess is receiving your sacrifice. Even if you make really small kindling and use lighter fluid, the burning will take a few minutes, so use your cell phone to play a song about looking for love out loud (no headphones or earbuds) while you’re waiting for the smoke.June 19, 2024 at 8:43 pm #21782Ted
Participant@Micha
If you’re looking for a great candidate that ALSO rejects our cradle-to-grave anti-White conditioning, that’s a substantial filter. If you hold out and look diligently for someone with those values, it’s an all-or-nothing gambit.I’d echo the sentiment of others here; take close enough, talk to her about these things, and she’ll probably drift towards your views overtime. Most people have nobody in their life contradicting their programming, and they’d inevitably be more aware and critical of the programming if they did.
I lost my best friend in part because he got a turbo-woke wife, and she pushed the secular faith hard on everyone around her. Spouses have potential to change each other.
February 19, 2024 at 1:44 am #20400Ted
Participant@FacingTheSun
I saw that profile, got a “like” from it. I called it out and it insisted on it’s story while obsequiously conceding every point of suspicion. I might be training it to pass better, but the ironic thing is that it doesn’t need to put on a racist persona at all, it just needs to act like a normal woman to get contact info.
Perhaps I sort of hope that in training it, I’ll lead the handlers to understand that they’ve been raised on lies and fed a curated world view. That’s probably overly optimistic, they’ll have safeguards since the Tay days, but I understand that Feds that lurk do sometimes need to go to counseling for red pill poisoning.
February 19, 2024 at 1:18 am #20399Ted
ParticipantI didn’t know that about Varg, sounds laughably unrealistic.
I despise misanthropic environmentalism. It’s like a Woke White saying it’s racist to be a White person who doesn’t think they’re racist; it’s capturing that “I’m the one good one” egotistical preening that damaged people love to imitate. They never aim their self-sabotaging vitriol at India or China.
https://c9ef56.p3cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/give-a-hoot-2.png“So much has been lost or taken over by concrete monstrosities”, he’s talking about feats of engineering here, the intelligent application of math and science to practical ends. “Rewilding must take place”, fuck off World Economic Forum, there’s no “must” here. “This will result in great sacrifices having to be made” in other words “Let’s voluntarily cripple and starve ourselves!”. I’m not used to feeling anger, but OP was really doing it for me. They’re not just an enemy of Whites, but of civilization itself, and they love themselves for it.
February 15, 2024 at 9:10 am #20386Ted
Participant@mudhater
I think they moved here: https://holocausthandbooks.com/February 15, 2024 at 9:04 am #20385Ted
ParticipantThat was written by AI, wasn’t it?
February 15, 2024 at 6:25 am #20384Ted
Participant@AeonKnight
After failing to find brown candidates for American public forest services, despite a media push, they had to settle for White faggots to get “diversity”.
I agree, Koreans are an edge case.
I think the original poster was speaking in bad faith. Extreme environmentalism is used to get people to suppress birth rates in advanced nations. If White nations went back to the stone age to appease this sentiment, we’d get taken over by others who don’t give a shit. I wanted to be polite just in case they were a true believer, but now that they’ve left, I candidly say OP should be regarded as an enemy of all that’s good.
January 16, 2024 at 4:45 am #20124Ted
ParticipantOption A) Save Whites
With the possible exception of the Japanese, no other racial group cares about nature like White people do. No other race visits national parks, staffs or funds nature conservation groups, or volunteers for animal welfare services in nearly the same proportions. Once Whites lose control of their electorates, and policy changes are gradually implemented to phase Whites out of existence, out of existence will also go the champions of nature. The NSDAP were literally pioneers in animal rights legislation.Option B) New World Order
There is an alternative route, the “Great Reset”. A humanity not allowed to own private property, vehicles, or inheritances, will be stuffed into cities, raised to love their slavery, made to work and play in the Metaverse, and thereby perform services for their technocrat overlords, while keeping more of the land in pristine condition for the enjoyment of the elite rulers.Option C) Collapse
There will be a lot of “rewilding” after the collapse of advanced civilization.January 16, 2024 at 4:17 am #20123Ted
ParticipantAs the opening post alludes, A Christian-Pagan pairing can work if they don’t take their spiritualism so seriously that they must project it onto others. Given modern living, it’s easy to not make your belief system the center of your life. Thus, it’s not opposing faiths that must be avoided, but opposing zealotries.
@PrometheanFlaem
On the matter of Paganism as reactionary:
When Christianity was still in it’s “Woke” phase, after it took over the Roman urban centers, “Pagan” was coined as a slur for rural, ethnically Roman, worshipers of the old state gods. Christianity was the new thing, comprised of diverse peoples attracted to the wealth and easy living of the great cities (that they’d never have been able to conquer with force, but were simply let in), united by an emotionally manipulative belief system, and who stood in their way of total domination? Those rural, Roman farmers that clung to the old gods. Damned Reactionaries!So, just as how today the Wokist sees the rural, White, Christian as a reactionary standing in the way of “social change”, at one point that same dynamic played out between Christians and Pagans.
January 1, 2024 at 6:44 am #19999Ted
ParticipantI see very little support for degeneracy in the White Date forums.
December 23, 2023 at 10:35 pm #19925Ted
ParticipantI got a video chat date a couple months ago. Admittedly, I haven’t been putting in much effort.
December 17, 2023 at 8:44 am #19900Ted
Participant@Dude
“I want freedom but on the other how do we have freedom while retaining an element that sees and acts farther forwards then 4 year election cycles”I don’t think the election cycle length is the real problem here. If there was a shared vision of our people and our destiny, that would transcend the coming and going of individual politicians. The things that threaten our freedom; silencing racially aware voices, disrupting racially aware organizations, restricting public weaponry, schools raising kids to love government control, government spying, Digital ID, the great debt reset, etc, aren’t strongly tied to executive branch administrations spending ~1.5 years pandering for votes.
“How do we translate from theory and discussion to some sort of meaningful result?”
Donate to pro-White organizations, such as National Alliance, National Justice Party, givesendgo.com/peeracademy, etc. These organizations attract bigger thinkers that can help figure out solutions the rest of us can do.Besides supporting top-down groups, work on making parallel societies.
Buy at White-owned businesses. Establish food buying relationships with small producers, try to establish alternative trade means like silver, cryto, or barter. Send our kids to people in our group for supplemental education. Maybe try to use digital radio networks as a low-bandwidth internet alternative for private coordination. Through these sorts of efforts, we might start to get enough people together for small businesses.Our people have some natural advantages that make us good employees. We might use that plus unity from racial awakening to pool funds to buy small businesses. The profits from those small businesses could go towards funding more small business acquisitions, on paper owned by the people that work there. Eventually, this underground confederation might be able to buy medium-sized businesses, big enough to be able to hire random out-of-work White people, and to get into state-level lobbying. As it gets bigger, it might start making private schools, local media outlets, community banks, entertainment etc, all with a covert aim of advancing White interests.
December 16, 2023 at 6:48 am #19893Ted
Participant@Dude
“what do you define as being forgiveness in this context? ”
In the context of the opening post, it’s forgiveness towards people who once acted against White interests, such as committing miscegenation. That is to say, forgiving their transgressions and letting them participate in a White parallel system, or join a White interest movement.
“Does it matter whether you forgive them or not?”
Suppose the USA goes down a road with similarities to South Africa, and eventually the only livable parts become White enclaves with extra-judicial legal systems. When the primary society becomes shitty enough, you’ll get refugees from it knocking on your door. Do you let in people that previously did significant anti-White actions? (supposing there’s some way to know for our hypothetical case)
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December 9, 2023 at 4:00 am #19860Ted
ParticipantThe NSDAP was voted into power. That’s not what I meant though, making a parallel system will either require many more of us, or the parallel system needs to get a meaningful percentage of the conservatives to participate. The Police Nationale and Forces armées françaises active personnel come out to 1% of France. With enough conservatives, they might be fought outright, even if no state employees defected.
December 8, 2023 at 7:02 am #19858Ted
Participant@AeonKnight
“I think “how would a civil war go if we don’t send them back” is still within the topic”
Okay, it’s not completely unrelated, but civil war is a bit of a premise stretch. I could maybe bring it back around by talking about Jewish involvement in bringing Blacks to the Americas in the first place, to argue they should be held financially culpable.The Jews are a parasite that’s attempting to engineer its host. That is a precarious undertaking. They want to rule over light brown IQ 90 rootless mixed-race people who’s identity comes from consumerism. That would leave the Jews to be the brains of the operation. However, the Jews are optimized to manipulate Europeans. I suspect a less empathetic people that clearly register Jews as a different skin color wouldn’t grant them the status they seek.
They’ve already made it a social taboo for Whites to insist on having White partners only. It’s not such a big jump to go from that to making it taboo for Whites to have White partners at all. In a scenario 3 or so generations out, when our percentage of the population is low, and even the senior citizens were raised on the idea Whites are a uniquely evil people that should be peacefully phased out, there will be a fair number of Whites that fight to prevent non-miscegenation.
America’s rural White areas have higher average IQ scores than urban areas, and rural people need to be much more self-sufficient. I’m sure “fly over country” would kick their asses in ground warfare, but mass drone bombing may be another matter.
I can only hope people were withholding their true knowledge due to it being a social taboo, and the fact they were being polled by a famously vindictive organization. However, the ADL only makes money if people are worried about “hate” and donate. They have every incentive to exaggerate it’s magnitude, and yet they wail about only 2-3 thousand acts of recorded antisemetism a year -in a nation of 330 million. That doesn’t indicate much Jew awareness. Then again, I haven’t been doing anything to get our numbers up, and I think I’m Jew-wise.
My understanding is that America was founded by Freemasons, with an eye towards overthrowing monarchies in Europe. Hence freedom of religion is the first part of the first amendment of the constitution; it was designed to hamstring legal action against the Jews from the beginning. Also, a government designed around restraining it’s own powers and being hands-off on the citizens was perfect for the rise of Jewish power. However, as for the next government, I think the concept with the most widespread appeal is a patch and reboot of the first constitution, which the conservatives consider a document of crowning genius. It would be interesting to see how it plays out.
I do feel less defeatist now, thanks for the words of encouragement (• ◡•)
December 7, 2023 at 3:14 am #19848Ted
ParticipantThe small, motivated, and committed groups only change society when the majority either passively let them do it (federal reserve system) or if they can get (usually trick) a significant chunk of the population into doing what they want (Bolsheviks).
(small numbers) x (high awareness) = low effect
(high numbers) x (low awareness) = low effectWhite Nationalists are only going to save their people if they can either stampede the herd in the right direction, or vastly swell their numbers.
December 6, 2023 at 7:01 am #19841Ted
Participant@AeonKnight
I am getting entirely off the thread prompt here, so I feel obligated to keep it short. However, this thread is little trafficked, and Seb quit the site, so I also feel like it doesn’t matter.
There are many reasons to expect White people to make it past this calamity. Thus far, the Jews always get kicked out in the end. Whites in organized warfare have been known to have outrageously high kill ratios against non-white combatants. It’s said that in the American revolutionary war, just 3% of the population fought; a small motivated faction can overthrow a government, and we live in a time of unprecedentedly low public motivation. I agree our would-be opponents are more ravaged by decadence than we are. If just 1% of the aforementioned 700,000,000 show up to fight, we survive.
However, I’m doubtful awareness is spreading as fast as it needs to in order to avoid Whites being a minority in my country, which is deadly in a “democracy”. In the name of the environment, racial justice, or something, they’ll pass a law limiting the number of children people can have, while keeping the immigration floodgates open. Once our percentages are low enough, I’m guessing like 20%, their anti-white hate propaganda may allow them to outlaw Whites having White kids.
In 2020, only 11% of polled Americans responded “yes” to “Jews have too much power in the United States today”. 24% said yes to “Jews have more loyalty to Israel than to America”. https://www.adl.org/resources/report/antisemitic-attitudes-usa-guide-adls-latest-poll
The ADL has a list of 11 Jewish stereotypes they use in the poll (basic items of Jewish awareness). In 1964 29% affirmed at least 6 things, and it steadily fell to 11% by 2020. That doesn’t mean things haven’t turned around by 2023, but we weren’t on a good trajectory, and that was with decades of an internet less censored than now.
And on that note, Hail Victory!
December 5, 2023 at 10:19 am #19829Ted
Participant@AeonKnight
It’s exactly as you said, they don’t have the capacity to pay us back even if they wanted to. Paying to get rid of them is a mere processing fee next to what they’ve cost so far.
I’m willing to go full pragmatist for a timeline that includes ongoing White existence and self-rule. I’d trade many indignities for it, because I’m not confident we’re going to make it.
We’re currently on the road to extinction. Having a 100% White country sounds really nice, really safe, and like everyone could share in the sense of belonging to a giant extended national family. However, if we aim for something less, like 90% White, then we could neutralize some elite non-Whites during our uncertain fight for survival, and have a lot less conservatives to fight. If we leave alone “le based Black man” (especially early on), more of those conservatives would eventually come around to a cultural philosophical change, instead of being locked into taking a stand against early on. Even if you wanted to betray the 10% later, I think we get off the road to extinction easier with a bit of compromise up front.
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I think the self-described “very liberal” only have something like 0.7 children per woman. They’re already phasing themselves out. Only self-described “very conservatives” exceed replacement rate.
I’ve thought about compartmentalizing society’s failures that way for a long time; give them a bed, food, and their vices produced with economies of scale. Get rid of the bums. Fentanyl is cheap. The Great Reset proponents want to offer something similar, “free” food, housing, and consumer rentals (no private property). If everyone that sort of thing appealed to was already gone, they’d have a lot less foot soldiers for ZOG technocracy.
They get hysteric about fascism, but they thought Zion Don was fascism personified, and they didn’t move away during his term.
Thanks for the reply, good conversing.
December 4, 2023 at 4:03 am #19824Ted
Participant“Should payments and compensation be given?”
(1) Back in 2014, the lifetime tax deficit of the average Black American was ~$750,000.
(2) There’s additional costs if you want to put a dollar value on them being 18 times more likely per capita to commit murder on a White citizen vs a White to kill a Black. Similar deal on rape, armed robbery, etc.
(3) You might also put a dollar value on the opportunity cost of diversity hires/college enrollment, a 1990’s study suggested it was costing 4% of GDP to put less qualified candidates in prestigious places.
(4) You might put a dollar value on cities being ruined, like Detroit, Baltimore, Charleston, and shitting up the schools our children go to, plugging up our prisons, stressing social services, and so forth.Therefore, It’s a good deal to pay $750,000 to get rid of a single Black newborn (yes, I’m excluding interest rates and future value of money). Now, how much would it cost to get a Black American to emigrate? Liberia was a country America setup for descendants of (the mostly Jew’s) Black slaves to return to their mother continent. The median annual income in Liberia is $650, with a median life expectancy around 65 years. So, a newborn Black could retire in Liberia for $42,250 on average.
So, for perhaps a program cost of $100,000 each, we could offer them the possibility to move to Libera (and renounce US citizenship) and never work again. We’d make a bunch of housing to accommodate the American Blacks, maybe with some artsy 1-story 3D printed concrete structures. We’d show videos of these nice planned communities, and for several years provide electricity and garbage services so Blacks there could video chat with friends back home about how great early retirement is. This combined with a pull-back on social spending and diversity preferences would probably get many takers without a single shot fired. We could probably empty the prisons this way too, telling them they can go retire in Africa instead if they want.
“How far should it go?”
See how well it works voluntarily. It might get rid of the most expensive Blacks and Browns first, lowering the impetus for their wholesale removal. If things came to a wholesale removal scenario anyways, it could still reduce the number of people we have to fight by millions.“Who should a general move like this cover?”
Whoever gets automatic Liberian citizenship. They’ll give free citizenship to American Blacks returning to the motherland, but I don’t know how they define Blackness. In the US, The 13th amendment may be circumvented, because the program could be offered to all Americans technically, but only the “Black” ones can get Liberian citizenship.“What timeframe would you like to see?”
Immediately, start offering 100K (and release from prison) to individuals to renounce US citizenship and move to Liberia. Weather initial propaganda with the totally voluntary nature of it, and parrot back their BS about how evil and racist America is and how Blacks should leave now for their own safety because of White cops or something. Then within a year or so, get the planned communities built, change the deal to a lifetime retirement stipend and free housing. Then actively support it for about 6 years, see how it goes, reassess. We might have “food Aid” programs redirected their way, or make them booze on a large scale from surplus US corn harvest, work out a deal to get them TV streaming services for cheap, or other inexpensive pacifying methods.-
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December 2, 2023 at 2:54 am #19810Ted
Participant@AeonKnight
Churchill was a piece of shit on many levels. From likely ordering the Dresdan firebombing, helping the USSR at every turn, initiating civilian bombing on Germany to provoke retaliatory bombing on his citizens, childishly reveling in war glory, etc. Nevertheless, I think his 1920’s quote concisely and precisely describes what’s going on with these online leftists; “arrested development”, “envious malevolence”, “Impossible equality”. I find these descriptions poetically sharp.
Funny enough, in the 1950’s Churchill campaigned for the office of prime minster on the slogan “Keep Britain White”, and wrote about how the cause of the war had been Germany cutting the international bankers out of their profits. Yeah, he sold out the White Race for help with his personal debts, but I think because of his proximity to the power behind the throne, he saw post-war what the 2000’s would hold for British demographics, and it scared him.
It’s much more compelling when it’s framed as “Only National Socialists oppose these things”.
December 1, 2023 at 5:44 am #19805Ted
Participant@Seb
I recommend cold rationality here. Does forgiving them help or hurt our bid for survival?
If you’re not in a position of command, you only need to think of how it effects you personally. Does being upset at them fuel you, or does it sap your morale? Would the contempt remind you that you’re in a long-term struggle for your people’s existence amidst modern comfort, or would it burn you out and lower your success if you regularly seethe about them?
From a movement perspective, forgiveness will get you more allies, but it will alienate your existing hardliners. The hardliners tend to be higher quality, but of low overall power from small numbers. However, some of the most ardent enemies of the anti White system are former believers. The USSR discovered that disillusioned former true believers became their most committed enemies, to the point they’d automatically send assassin teams after agents of a failed mission. That’s the story behind Yuri Bezmenov.
My personal feelings are all the way on the forgiveness side, but consequential matters should be decided through the group survival lens.
December 1, 2023 at 4:04 am #19804Ted
Participant@AeonKnight
I think it’s partially about rebelling against nature: the tyranny of not getting to choose the circumstances of your birth. It’s partially a rebellion of the weak: using collectivism to elevate the losers and lower the winners (an evolved weakling survival strategy). However, there’s another aspect: being repressed by the system, feeling like a loser because of it, wanting to rebel, but having the system direct you against it’s approved targets.
There’s a related Winston Churchill quote I find clarifying:
“This movement among the Jews is not new… This world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing… It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century.”LOL, Thomas’ Wikipedia entry is “Thomas Sewell (Australian Neo-Nazi)”. I still feel the old circuitry activate; upon reading the words, a flash of being confronted with the thing I was conditioned to fear, the rush to instantly judge and be repelled. I still get that even though I spent hours today imagining how I’d help the NSDAP if I could go to the past.
It’s hard to top “It’s okay to be White”; you know it’s good when a slogan gets effectively outlawed. Admittedly, that one has been somewhat countered with professional cope, enough to justify crackdowns at least.
Something like “Pedophile or National Socialist” probably works better for courageous people who’ve had enough of the obnoxious bullying. People want to be against child grooming, but they don’t want to afix themselves to a label that (to them) means “Strict genocidal militant who wants to conquer the world due to their character defects”. If by leftist overuse the label gets appended with +”who protects childhood innocence”, I wouldn’t expect that to rehabilitate it sufficiently for normie adoption. (could help neutralize it though)
“That is pure liberal/POC/Judaic projection, because it’s what they would do if they had power”
Hard to argue with the USSR’s track record.For years now I’ve thought “I have more evidence than I can simultaneously memorize, now I just need to organize it, condense it, and optimize it for consumption by the people I know”. Keeps on not happening, and I keep failing to persuade. I think researching this stuff might be habit forming. Some is essential, too much is counter productive.
Kind regards
November 28, 2023 at 4:37 am #19762Ted
ParticipantAeonKnight makes a very trenchant point that left-wing people don’t come to their positions by reasoning. As a former hard leftist, it’s my personal experience, and my observation of many others, that leftism comes from government education scaring children with propaganda followed by propaganda in news and entertainment that they’ll consume through adulthood.
I fell out around 2013, I’m sure curated big-tech platforms are now a significant part of it. By creating an environment where the heritics will be shunned, and you can get labeled a heretic for very little, people are driven into fear-based conformity. Part of what makes this influence so intense is terminally online losers that desperately crave power, but rationalize that they’re fighting injustice, looking to destroy strangers for fun. It’s these unpaid and unwitting commissars that take the group think to a new level, and this accelerates the other traditional propaganda outlets.
Anonymous #19309 wanted to talk solutions.
Being nice:
One thing that was influential to me was the first time I read a post by a KKK guy, and he explained that he didn’t violently hate other people (the aforementioned government-funded childhood conditioning message), he just wanted a space for his people and like-minded members of his race to have their own separate community in accordance with their traditions and preferences. As a liberal, I was expecting a rabid hate monster, to hear that the enemy figure was actually nice, sensible, articulate, and motivated by love of his own, it planted a seed in my mind.A scare-article I saw years ago about Dr. David Duke warned of the insidious racist tactic of “being nice”, which suggests it’s a tricky tactic to counter.
Around 2017, there was a big media push to equate “white nationalism” and “white supremacy”. That’s because White people just wanting their own space somewhere to be White people is really hard for the liberal mentality to object to. Thus “they’re retreating” has to be converted somehow into “they want to kill everybody”.
This isn’t foolproof of course. I spend a fair amount of time with blue-state baby boomers who watch MSNBC religiously. At a party I spoke to an old dentist about letting the rightwing people have their own separate country. He was only barely juggered by the live-and-let-live notion, and shortly concluded that we have to crush the conservatives anyways because gay people might be born in conservative areas and thereby be repressed.
November 22, 2023 at 3:19 am #19698Ted
Participant@AeonKnight
I ended up giving a lot more after watching “A More Innocuous Title”. Now that was a motivating video, but I understand withholding it from a dating site.
I don’t notice Philosophy majors doing great things, but there’s probably an optimal dosage of the right philosophy that could be ennobling for a sizable minority of the public.
I thought about buying a parcel since it’s only 6600 USD, but upon reflection, it would be better if it went to people that actually live there. It’s not much of a community if it’s full of absentee owners that barely visit.
I don’t think I’ll be inheriting for a long time, but I’ll eventually be positioned to set something like this up in my state. It’s scary to imagine putting more at risk than I could earn in my entire lifetime; one false-flag hate crime and everything could go to hell. Nevertheless, I’m not sure I have anything better to live for.
Thank you for bringing awareness to this development!
November 21, 2023 at 6:06 am #19678Ted
ParticipantI kicked 200 toward Peer Academy. Arkansas is a bit further than I want to relocate currently, but something like this might be essential if I end up with kids to raise.
November 21, 2023 at 5:26 am #19677Ted
ParticipantThere’s a bunch of structures in the American North East that suggest a non-native American style, carbon dating to about 4 thousand years ago. There’s arrow head styles that suggest two ice ages ago (~20,000 years back), some paleolithic age French quite possibly came to the American North East. Also, lots of Native American tribes have legends about these tall, pale skinned, red haired giants that were powerful and advanced but went extinct.
ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/ancient-race-white-giants-described-native-legends-many-tribes-005774I’m no authority on history or Anthropology either. I have no academic credentials but a single college class on ancient architecture. I’m just interested in topics related to what Captain Archibald Ramsay called the nameless war.
My understanding is concurrent; that Jewish history has significant accuracy problems, but it generates a self-propelling narrative. I have a hard time knowingly embracing falsehoods that serve me, but the fact that humans evolved self-serving biases indicates it’s a winning move to have self-aggrandizing delusions.
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I’ve seen your profile around the forum list, mentioning a World White Congress url being reserved, and mentions of Varg and Marie. I recall not posting because I’d have needed to get chat membership. I’m up to take this elsewhere instead of continuing to clutter up a thread about dating people of different religions.
November 20, 2023 at 5:11 am #19645Ted
Participant@Anonymous post #19629
I can tell from context that you’re replying to my post #19626 in your post #19629, but it would be helpful to anyone you’re trying to converse with if you addressed them.
I’m assuming that you’re coming up as “anonymous” because you quit Whitedate shortly after posting.
@Anonymous post #19632
When replying to several day old content in a forum where the other person posted a bunch, it would be helpful to give their name and post number, or at least name and a reminder of what they were saying.An example of regional differences in just Catholism alone is all the weird patron saints they have in Mexico. For example Jesús Malverde, patron saint of bandits, is prayed to by drug traffickers for success in illicit activities. You’re probably not going to get much of that in Canadian Catholics. I maintain this is an example of the religion having to make allowances for the behavioral tendencies of it’s different hosts.
I’m willing to do a little bit of research on specific topics. If you’d like to correct me on a specific aspect of church history, I’m willing to listen. However, I’m not motivated enough to just go study religion generally until I come around to the interpretations of an anonymous poster. I didn’t even pick up what your specific objections were, so after no amount of study would I know the task was done. It’s sort of like a far leftist telling you to go get “educated” when you disagree with them on something they feel emotional about, because in their mind the propaganda they received is the only objectively correct interpretation of things, so surely everyone will come around to their beliefs if they just study more.
November 20, 2023 at 4:16 am #19644Ted
ParticipantA belief system around realizing the individual’s full potential is very appealing, especially to someone who feels like they squandered most of their potential. Probably many such cases in an era of abundant entertainment.
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The hunter gatherer model is what we’re evolutionarily optimized for. One small example being how most people need to get wisdom teeth removed these days because we’re genetically optimized for eating foods that cause much more tooth wear. A lot of being healthy is simply recreating conditions more like our ancestor’s evolution. However, I’m a fan of reading, writing, math, guns, vehicles, and the higher thought that can be obtained from unmoderated forums.
The Eskimos lived in a very challenging environment as hunter gatherers, and only ended up IQ 90. That’s a lot better than many equatorial peoples, but suggests the Neanderthals may have only been about as smart as the north-ish Native Americans. That’s because they had similar lifestyles in similar climates.
Back when America was founded, Jews needed Freemason front gentiles much more. Francis Bacon, a very important mason and author of “New Atlantas” (1626), conceived that a super state in the new world could tip the scales of power in Europe and dethrone the monarchies. Just that would happen during WW1, with much help by an anti-monarchist, continent-wide, new-world republic founded largely by Freemasons. The International Jew is a great introductory/intermediate work, but the well gets a lot deeper. I don’t think Henry had anything about Christianity being spread by Jews to undermine the Roman empire, and get all these Europeans accepting their 5 books of Moses. We are in the same boat as the Native Americans with regard to having Christianity forced on us, I strongly suspect for eventual mass Noahidism conversion.
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Those are good points that other gods are talked about as if a valid alternative, and the fearmongering. Don’t leave Yahweh, or he might mess you up.
November 18, 2023 at 5:12 am #19626Ted
ParticipantIt’s been a while since I looked at it, but I had the impression Scientology has some compelling design aspects for a modern religion. It certainly has some design flaws though, the fact that it throws morality out the window for it’s enemies, while sensible for survival, really tarnishes the group image overall in a way that threatens it’s survival. It’s creation myth however, while no less plausible than many popular ones, does stretch credulity. When I was thinking about European Paganism vs Cosmotheism, the low age and outer-space invoking of Cosmotheism reminded me of the low public credibility of Scientology.
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My sense is that if the forests of Europe were inferior to the middle east in terms of generating food, very intelligent humanoids would seek to control the more productive land. Perhaps this very dynamic lead to the fertile crescent being a place of conflict and advancement. If Neanderthals had low numbers, low population density, and survived in lands nobody else wanted (for a long time), that would lead to low conflict and low advancement pressure. The conflict pressures of the fertile crescent would support both fighting genes, and develop larger group sizes with specialized war fighting departments.
While surviving in periodic deadly winters develops the ability to think about that which doesn’t presently exist, maybe it’s a lower pressure for non-farmers. You can hunt year-round. Maybe Europe as an engine of higher thought really takes off if you have humans trying to survival farm there. Archeology says humans didn’t start agriculture until around 12,000 years ago. I’d be very interested to see what could be learned from cloning 12,000 year ago Europeans.
Victories over the native Americans were real victories with an excellent payoff. What went terribly was trying to “civilize the savages”. Such colonialism lost money, didn’t win us many friends, generally didn’t work, and to the extent it did work we only empowered potential enemies. If instead of being all paternalistic and trying to help, 19th century Europeans just wholesale slaughtered Africa, it would be like a second North America for us now. Instead of gratitude, to gen-Z “colonizer” is a verbal cudgel they’ve been conditioned to cower before.
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I’ve heard that the Talmud is 25% rules and 75% litigious techniques to get around those rules. There’s a whole industry for hacking the Sabbath so they can turn on lights and heat food and such. I’d guess Judaism is by net weight mostly about outsmarting Yahweh.
Is it weird for the all-powerful creator deity to get super jealous about people worshiping fake gods? Maybe Yahweh was tricked into thinking there’s other gods and he has to compete with them for followers?
November 17, 2023 at 6:10 am #19621Ted
ParticipantHomosexuality is a spreadable reproductive disorder. ~7% of the population is gay, many researchers find that 30% to 50% of identical twins are gay when the other one’s gay, so there’s a very big non-genetic component to it. Informally, about half of gay people will say they were molested as kids when asked. Any group that wishes to increase it’s numbers should oppose homosexuality. Any group seeking to lower it’s population should support homosexuality socially, and molest it’s kids.
To shun self-defense is a very bad survival and political strategy. It’s so bad, that groups that not only espouse it but actually put their bodies on the line for pacifism, are a rare and fleeting thing, only lasting long enough to be seen when conducted in exceedingly safe and prosperous empires.
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Living beings probably have a natural will to power as a result of the struggle for survival. It’s true that excessive abstract thinking, empowered by greater intelligence, can cause the very intelligent to do really counter productive things. However, if the Neanderthals were these hyper intelligent beings that just liked to spend 90% of their time looking for food, how did the African immigrants utterly wipe them out nearly as soon as they arrived?
Modern White people, in organized war, beat brown/black people with amazingly lopsided numbers. In one fight between 84 White Rhodesians and about 5000 soviet trained and equipped Black Africans, the Rhodesians took 3 casualties and the Africans took about 1000. Now imagine beings vastly smarter than Whites, vs Africans. Why would they get rolled so easily? The anatomically modern humans had better bodies for running and spear throwing, but shouldn’t the Neanderthals have won anyways with superior skill and tactics?
I’m feeling like something’s not adding up here. If the humans that went to the middle east ~70,000 years ago did a bunch of war with each other before some of them tried going north ~40,000 years ago, why didn’t this already happen in the up to 2 million years of pre-humans leaving Africa? There were pre-neanderthals leaving too, none of them encountered the same conditions that lead to modern humans developing technology?
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The one that really gets me is the Yom Kippur chicken swingers. They ritualistically transfer their sins from the last year into the chicken, torture the chicken to death, and all-knowing Yahweh gets tricked into thinking the chicken committed the sins. So, isn’t god puzzled why all these chickens are cheating on their human wives and committing securities fraud? What’s worse is the mentality “I commit evil, but it’s okay because I made an innocent party take the fall for me”.
November 16, 2023 at 5:11 am #19606Ted
Participant@ Dillinger
I’m equal parts fascinated and incensed to hear Christianity prevented noble breeding. I suspect it comes from the religious administration breaking up their competitors for social influence.
It sounds like we’re talking about European Paganism as a White survival strategy. It makes me think of “The Culture of Critique” a scholarly work on Judaism as a group survival strategy. Northern Europeans and Jews are behaviorally different, so it doesn’t makes sense to just copy their homework, but there might be some lessons there.
In America, we have a federal law enforcement agency that’s fighting against white racial awareness, but they can’t be that explicit about it yet. The greatest utility of European Paganism might be that it’s a religion related to a race. In exactly the way Judaism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries took cover for it’s racial interest jockeying under the cover of being a religion, European Paganism can do it too and point at Judaism if anyone complains. Strong first amendment protections for religion can perhaps afford safety against mass arrests on trumped up charges. Then it could be a safe meeting place for white advocacy, to pool funds, decide on leaders, and ultimately attract the wrath of the powerful.
The competing method is Cosmotheism, the religious offshoot of the National Alliance. It’s ultimately based in nature, but more about genetic improvement, about up breeding to make smarter conscious beings, and thus “help the universe better understand itself”, as we’re the part of the universe that thinks. I like that both European Paganism and Cosmothiesm wouldn’t require me to believe in magic. Cosmoetheism wins points with me for the focus on genetic improvement, but European Paganism wins points with me for being ancient. The legitimacy of a religion to the public seems proportional to it’s age. If I want cover for doing White advocacy, the ancient one is the more robust shield.
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The 2009 Chinese article defines multi-regional evolution as the same thing now called OoA1. It says archaic human ancestors left Africa long ago, like in the ball park of 0.5 to 2.1 million years back. Then humans with modern limb proportions came out of Africa less than 200,000 years ago, completely displaced the archaic pre-humans, but picked up a roughly 2% genetic admixture from interbreeding with them.
2% isn’t much, so I’d attribute our differences with sub Saharan Africans almost entirely to (1) having the right stuff to successfully leave Africa and (2) evolving in more challenging environments.
This does leave me with a question though, if 40,000 years evolving in Europe was enough to turn 98% Africans into Europeans, And the Neanderthals were roughly similar creatures that had closer to 300,000 years to evolve in Europe, why didn’t they develop modern technology and conquer the world? Neanderthals had bigger cranial capacities than modern humans, like 1,500 cm^3, vs 1267cm^3 Black, 1347cm^3 White, 1364 cm^3 north east Asian. There’s a 0.4 R-correlation between brain size and IQ. So, why are cave paintings and sharpened rocks their only apparent legacy?
The Jewish explanation for different races comes from the story of Noah and his 3 sons. Shem was the progenitor of Asians, Japheth was the progenitor of Europeans, and Ham was the progenitor of Africans. Ham saw his dad naked and either butt raped him, castrated him, or both (wording is unclear), and as a result, received the “curse of ham” (being black). This story was used by Jews to partially justify slave trade in Blacks for many centuries, which is odd for a group that ostensibly considers itself the only “true human beings”.
These are long posts as is, I appreciate the discretion.
November 15, 2023 at 5:56 am #19595Ted
ParticipantThat one wrong character did it. I don’t have an X account, so I was trying to put”/search?q=from%253ABornLik23266%20Paganism” in front of “https://nitter.net”. (minus the ”, I’m not putting that there) It didn’t work with the first one, so I assumed there was a problem with that method, but the problem revealed, I’ve checked out the links.
I do appreciate the poetry in the idea of being reincarnated through your descendants, and it’s the closest thing we have to an afterlife besides raising your clone (champion race horses get cloned, cloning businesses get requests for humans frequently, means and motive alone suggest it happens). The beautifully put quote about Hannibal points towards wanting mates that are similar to you, but not so similar that junk DNA copies get activated (incest). So, you’d want to cultivate not only your race, but even finer levels of genetic granularity to get more faithful reincarnations.
That gives me an idea. Small Island populations weed out their junk DNA through generations of incest combined with survival of the fittest. Suppose a small breeding group that included a lot of cousin marriages, would have couples with large numbers of kids and large numbers of culls. Like they’d have 10 kids, but cull down to 2.2 by getting rid of the least genetically healthy (if they’re not too bad, maybe just send them out for adoption). They could iron out their junk DNA pretty quickly. Once that was achieved, close relatives could mate without excessive gene problems. That group could routinely have successions like Hamiclar to Hannibal.
It would be the work of generations, and it would all get screwed up if they mated with someone that had normal levels of junk DNA, so that could raise the pressure level on them to not out-breed. It would be fascinating to see the civilization that arises from a group that’s essentially the same person, except for male/female versions.
These days the weekly gathering may also serve the benefit of discussing the current propaganda. When one individual starts to get doubts about racial differences or the character of police brutality or whatever messaging is going on, as long as they feel comfortable bringing it forward, maybe anonymously, then they can have their doubts put to rest. That’s something best done with a group, the atomized individual is probably easier to sway with emotional manipulation and subtle media tricks.
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I know people use OoA that way, but I think OoA offers great clarity on Africans. It basically says “The Africans never evolved with deadly winters, so they never needed the abstract thinking to imagine things that don’t exist like the future, so they never developed much prefrontal cortex, and now they’re bad at everything that needs abstract thinking – punctuality, empathy, education, and delayed gratification”. That’s it. That’s everything anyone needs to know about Africans in less than a paragraph, backed up by the widely accepted theory of evolution. It succinctly explains why they’ll never achieve self-supporting equal outcomes no matter how much support they’re given, why they have really high incarceration rates across all time and geography, and why it’s even folly to have the same criminal code apply to them. OoA shows us why it’s actually justice to cease all affirmative action, only allow special exceptions to immigrate, curtail their gun rights, and offer them limited education for manual skills as standard (the top 1 in 6 American Blacks and top 1 in 36 native Africans can succeed in normal schools). As an ex-liberal, I find this evolutionary biology explanation extremely satisfying. No hate required, no guilt incurred, knowing the nature of the animal, good policy decisions just fall into place.
November 14, 2023 at 8:51 am #19588Ted
ParticipantI’ve found that posts containing more than one hyperlink get flagged for review, but not when I cut off the “https://www”.
I am interested to see what Varg and Marie have to say say about European Paganism. I’m unable use the provided links, but I did get to Varg’s Twitter page through the alternative front end “Nitter”. A small sample of his posts and retweets looks sensible. I did find and read their booklet on Internet Archive though, “Paganism Explained: Part I: Thrymskvida (2017)” archive.org/details/paganismexplainedpartithrymskvida2017/mode/2up
I could study this topic much more before commenting, but I’m not right away seeing a belief system for creating a new human race on a short timescale. I don’t yet know what European Paganism would do to curate it’s gene pool, but if it’s just to let a little natural selection back in, I don’t think that’s going to get you a new race. The aristocrat and the village idiot are usually thought of as being the same race, although the former’s family is consistently smarter on a genetic level.
Through what means can orthodoxy be persisted? The more of life that’s presented through the orthodox lens, the more extreme it can be. If not only the parents and the family, but the local school, after school programs, the regional news, the entertainment, weekly community gatherings, the books published, etc, all came from an orthodox lens, then being orthodox would be the default social expectation. In Edward Bernays’ seminal book on social engineering “Propaganda” (1928), he describes how people’s reality can be shaped if a message is encountered in many venues.
What about in a modern context where it’s practically impossible to avoid social engineering designed around enslavement and slow-motion genocide? You can lie to a man 1000 times, but if he’s seen the truth once, it’s all for nothing. If the social engineering vectors are recognized for what they are at least once, and European Paganism is able to position itself as the best opposition, then it might be possible to turn enemy messaging into fuel for the faith.
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Anthropology was one of the first things those “certain people” corrupted after getting off the boat. Franz Boas, a professor from 1896 to 1942, did more than anyone else I know of to create our modern cultural zeitgeist where perfect racial equality is zealously taken for granted. They’ve monkeyed with similar topics over the decades, like down playing evidence of Europeans in America before the “Native Americans”. Occasionally “Black Nationalists”, picking up a line they were fed, brag about being the first humans, and illogically act like elders due respect or as our purposeful creators. I think you have a solid basis to be suspicious.
I gathered the following:
Non sub-saharan Africans typically have about 2% Neanderthal DNA.
The oldest potential Neanderthal bones suggest they were in Europe up to 430,000 years ago.
Neanderthals went extinct around 40,000 years ago.
To me that sounds like anatomically modern humans came along and largely displaced these earlier hominids, but did breed with them to some extent.Apparently there’s now Out of Africa I (pre-humans leaving Africa 2.1 to 0.2 million years ago) and Out of Africa II (Anatomically modern humans leaving Africa up to 0.2 million years ago). OoA1 accounts for what the Research Gate Article calls multiregional evolution.
November 12, 2023 at 12:54 am #19570Ted
ParticipantWould European Paganism take control over mating selection or provide such extreme selection pressures? Elephants in just 2 generations evolved much smaller tusks from hunters going after large tusks. You can get changes fast even with a blind selection pressure, but it has to be a pretty extreme pressure, of the magnitude that would probably cause humans to relocate away from it.
If the religion is a good fit for the natural behaviors of it’s flock, there’s no reason it can’t maintain and refine for millennia. If one of the first objectives of the eugenics religion is to breed people to favor the eugenics religion, that could go a long ways towards preventing the host from corrupting or abandoning it.
There’s another racial/religious group that tries for a non-geographical based genetic isolation, the chosenites. Based on the following graphic, it looks like an ethnocult has to be at least as fervent as the centrist orthodox, or it will assimilate out over time. So, it can be done, but it’s hard to make compatible with a modern lifestyle.
nojesus4jews.weebly.com/uploads/5/4/6/5/54658875/will-your-grandchildren-be-jewish-revisited_orig.jpgI’ve seen several graphs indicating the Africans are more genetically different from other races, than the other races are from each other, which come on a smooth gradient. Example: humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/GeneticsOfRace.jpg
That would be consistent with every other race coming from the first group that had the right stuff to make it out of Africa, and to survive outside the veritable garden of Eden. Are you saying there’s evidence of pre-human to human transition going on in multiple regions?November 11, 2023 at 5:07 am #19567Ted
ParticipantThat sounds like more of a question for an anthropologist or evolutionary biologist.
I usually think of it as working the other way around, a race develops a native religion that suits it’s psychological particulars. When a virulent conquering religion, like Islam or Christianity, forces itself on a people that would more naturally follow a different religion, the conquering religion has to make regional allowances for the genetic behavioral tendencies of it’s new hosts. You’ll get funny pigeon religions as seen in the Carribean and Africa. You’ll notice differences in Christianity as practiced in Mexico vs Canada; differences in Islam in Egypt vs Indonesia.
However, I suspect it is a two-way street. The conquering religion has to adapt to live in a host with different ways of thinking, but it probably does pull the host’s thinking somewhat in it’s direction too. If the conquering religion is able to survive somewhat intact over the course of centuries, without getting it’s fundamentals too altered by the congenital values of it’s hosts, then it might slightly alter the terms of reproductive success for the host.
Suppose you cloned some Germans from 200 AD, raised the baby clones in modern society, and then did a battery of tests on them as adults. How might they differ from other Germans? How might 1700 years of Christianity have affected reproductive selection during that time? I’m guessing not much. Maybe it would wash out social renegades more than wodenism? Maybe the clones would be slightly more willing to disobey authority? Part of the problem is Christianity had to change a bunch from it’s origins to survive in a German host. The host even outright changed the nature of it’s mind occupier by creating Protestantism, a far cry from it’s slave morality roots.
For religion to be the mechanism that leads to the emergence of a new race, it needs to provide a selection pressure long enough, strong enough, consistently enough, on a gene pool isolated enough from foreign influx. Maybe some 200 AD German clones would be practically a different people from some 10,000 AD Germans that practiced Christianity for the long haul of their history. The weaker the selection pressure, the longer the time required for evolution to be apparent. Conversely, a religion centered around Eugenics might make a new race in 6 generations, that’s about how long it takes selective breeding to make a new type of dog.
Given that Humans have been out of Africa and divergently evolving for about 70,000 years, it is an interesting idea that maybe some religion lost to time had a hand in shaping the precursors to some known race in the modern world. However, I suspect most religions are indigenous, and don’t really change mating selection because they’re made tailored for that people.
stimulating prompt
November 9, 2023 at 4:01 am #19553Ted
Participant@WelshmanNorman
If you’re still undecided, here’s a cheeky video making the case it was Rome’s wokeism: youtube.com/watch?v=NjVXNm7ByMQWhile I share Hunter’s concerns about the devout, and worry it’s an infection point for Noahidism, some forms of more serious Christianity appear to offer good protection against modern degeneracy. If you want to find a partner that embraces traditional gender roles, it’s going to be tough to find that outside of Christian circles.
October 28, 2023 at 10:18 pm #19432Ted
Participant@WelshmanNorman
There’s nothing incorrect about your last post, but I’m compelled to offer further details. The thing that bothers me about the mouse utopia comparison is the implication that our current situation was naturally arising, simply an unguided calamity caused by excessive decadence brought on by new technologies.Famously, The Georgia guide stones used to prescribe a population cap of 0.5 Billion. Other rich globalists, in the name of the environment, propose similar numbers. Dr. Richard Day in his 1969 speech, relayed through Dr Lawrence Dunegan’s “The New Order of the Barbarians”, describes the promotion of homosexuality, women in the workforce, widespread contraception and other measures as covert ways to get the population down. Trans, Body Positivity, etc, these things are all “quiet weapons” in a “silent war”. Just as surely as if you put a bullet through someone’s brain stem, you can take them out all the same by making their mom a sex-positive career woman with unrealistic mating expectations before she meets your would-be dad.
A small ruling group want to create stability for the rule of their potentially inept descendants. This will come in the form of a world socialist government. A lower population will require a larger percentage of it rising up in rebellion to overthrow them. Furthermore, a strong society would never let itself be absorbed into a world government in the first place. If you’re running a conspiracy at this scale, it’s to your great benefit to get people to generally reject the idea a massive conspiracy could be going on. It’s in their interest to stigmatize “conspiracy theories”, cry “Occam’s razor” and point to things like mouse utopia to create the impression that society is just dying, and there’s no instigators to counter.
October 28, 2023 at 9:40 pm #19431Ted
Participant@WelshmanNorman
Lol, one man with an AR could take over Sentinel Island, but ironically, the Indian government wouldn’t tolerate it. The Sentinalese are in a golden zone of being violent yet helpless.
October 28, 2023 at 6:26 am #19420Ted
ParticipantIf it’s not within our current countries (not quite outnumbered, but on the precipice of it), or as a minority settlement in another country, or Antarctica, the moon, or on the ocean floor, then you’ve got the little problem of the people that are already there.
October 28, 2023 at 5:41 am #19418Ted
Participant@Wyndham
I think a lot of the anti-white activists make age 18 profiles. Also, being super 1488, in a way even racially aware women seldom are. The key thing is the profiles are a product of the imagination of leftists who fear us, trying to imagine what their enemy figures want, so you see general chat threads by female profiles talking about how much they want to make you a sandwich or something, because they have a trope about the oppressive patriarchy commanding women to make sandwiches. Some are more subtle, I’m unsure which profile solicitation resulted in me getting a prank call from one of these guys (I was giving out my number readily).
@Roerick
Thanks for the tip, that’s a good filter.October 24, 2023 at 3:22 am #19396Ted
Participant@Alumnus
Is China capitalist?
I think China is national socialist; It seems to have private businesses, the government has arbitrary power to enforce “the public good” on private businesses, and it’s a state that protects the interests of primarily ethnic Han Chinese.Does wealth or poverty attract more money?
Poverty in China attracted investment, poverty in Africa not so much. Perceived future value attracts money, regardless of if wealth is already there, but developing nations have generally been seen as having more future value over the last century or so.Wealth or poverty, soldier value
Wealth can make soft men, but as seen with America in WW2, it also lets them dump limitless shells on the enemy and develop wonder weapons.The early USSR tried to have more democratic squads where the men could decline taking dangerous actions. It was a big failure, and they quickly reverted to the common ways.
Is it still capitalism if you have an FDA? There’s still privately held businesses, the government is still legally constricted against giving arbitrary commands, but now there’s some government intervention in the economy. An avenue for corruption has been opened, even as hopefully, others were closed. I’d have to say at that point it’s strictly speaking on the spectrum between capitalism and socialism, so, either a very capitalistic fascism, or a slightly fascist capitalism.
@SonofOdin
I think National Socialism still results in a small elite over the huddled masses, judging by the book “The Vampire Economy”. Where there’s power, you’ll get corruption, whether the balance of power lies more in business, the state, or balanced between them.Given the failure of the 1933 “Business Plot”, it may simply be a coincidence of history that fascism wasn’t used as a tool of Zionist control too. I think it’s not the fascism that made national socialism special, it was the focus on the well-being of the native racial group. That’s the part the Jews can’t use.
Personally, I think the decline in American living standards, as considered from the perspective of affording housing, cars, tuition, and medical care, is being purposefully orchestrated, as described in Dr. Richard Day’s 1969 speech, relayed via the book “The New Order of the Barbarians”. It advances the New World Order.
archive.org/details/New_Order_of_Barbarians_remaster_tapes_1to3
archive.org/details/dunegan-lawrence-the-new-order-of-the-barbariansOctober 23, 2023 at 5:25 am #19380Ted
Participant@Son of Odin
I’d never heard the term “Folkish Asatru” before, thanks for the term. Some of the first search results include the SPLC calling it a hate group, thus it already has the welcome of an enemy of an enemy. I have a hard time indulging in spirituality, but I’m interested to understand my people’s indigenous spirituality.
I hear Satanism is pretty much what’s believed at the top of Freemasonry, and especially Scottish Rite Freemasonry was made to serve Jewish supremacists. Do you know of different sects of Satanism? I’m wondering if there’s a specific strain the elite kid-fuckers do, and how it’s followers may relate to other Satanists.
October 23, 2023 at 4:58 am #19379Ted
Participant@Alumnus
I Watched the first link. I didn’t know Rome too had been relabeled to Edom by Rabbis. I mistook it for their word for Rome, which they then expanded to all of Europe, then all countries run by White people. I could imagine in a 100 years China will turn out to be Edom if they’re the next super power, just as “Amalek” can be the NSDAP, Palestinians, Russians, whoever.
I’d read an essay by a Jewish guy in the early 20th century bragging about how Christianity was used to partially Judaize the Pegans and hobble Rome. I suppose that narrative does help them save face to their followers, “everything is going according to plan!”.
The “resurrection” of Christianity is just the speculation that Jewish authorities like Paul/Saul went from suppressing it to spreading it in gentile lands. I don’t have any evidence of a hijacking per se, nor can I say with any certainty that it was completely killed and then brought back for psychological warfare on gentiles.
Capitalism, Free Market, and Libertarianism do all still sound comfortable and indulgent to me (leave me alone and let me make money), and a richer nation has an advantage in war against a poorer one, but I do have to concede that they weaken both the race and the nation by fostering excessive individualism.
Often times when there are legitimate grievances, such as unscrupulous big business practices, I expect there’s Jewish sociopathy towards the goyim at it’s core. Just as whatever has lead to a 60% drop in sperm counts is largely ignored in favor of other “outrages” put before us, the Jewish asshole is obscured as just a greedy white man.
October 19, 2023 at 3:46 am #19341Ted
ParticipantI don’t care at all what religion an otherwise good candidate has, it can’t be any crazier than the left wing pseudo religion that rules the large businesses and institutions around me. A Christian lady from WhiteDate cut things off after 3 dates because she felt that a man should lead the family, and didn’t want to be lead by a non-christian. I imagine that generally religion is more important to women when selecting a mate.
October 18, 2023 at 3:40 am #19314Ted
ParticipantI got an in-person date off of here once, no obvious phenotype give-away, so it’s less than 100%.
October 17, 2023 at 5:49 am #19302Ted
Participant@RiverRavenFarm
Firstly, I appreciate your words of support for collective European well-being, and for restoring old western values.In a related vein as Alumnus’ comments, I’d like to propose to you that the “Nazis” are extremely misrepresented because their mortal enemies control our news and academia. In a similar way as kids these days are taught the official 9/11 media narrative as history, we’re about four generations deep into WW2 propaganda as our creation myth of the Pax Americana. It’s not hard to see that the media of today deceives in favor of foreign wars. It’s not hard to identify many instances of highly dubious atrocity propaganda stretching back to the 1898 Spanish American war. It is however often harder to put it together that this applies to WW2 and the NSDAP too, because of the shear weight of conditioning we receive from childhood on that they’re a symbol of pure evil.
There’s multiple reasons it’s useful to scare kids about the NSDAP, thus creating adults that struggle to question the premise of their cartoonish villainy. Some of the reasons, reflected in your post, are that it stigmatizes nationalism, apparently masculinity these days, the potential use of force, and instills a fraudulent collective guilt complex in White children. If someone stands up in a crowd and starts calling for Whites to emancipate themselves from Jewish hegemony, this childhood conditioning we received will not only make their fellow tax cattle not listen, but turn on the speaker. If you’re from a small minority trying to slowly genocide a vastly numerically larger people that are among the best at organized violence, you want to condition them to never resort to violence, to not have a strong national collective identity to rally around, to not even recognize their very people as a group with legitimate interests, and it would be helpful if their men were pressured into being unmanly. This increases the odds they stay paralyzed as they’re slowly replaced with foreign peoples, who’s children are then raised on a curated anti-White telling of history.
None of this is to diminish the need for a positive alternative to modern culture. We need something to give people hope for a better tomorrow. I’ll applaud any efforts you make in that direction, but it won’t get far if you shrink from the task when they start calling you a “nazi” for it. Effective White advocates need to take that metaphorical bull-ring out of their septems, or else it will be used to yank them to the ground if they do anything that effective.
@Alumnus
I can’t find my earlier sources, but this video that I haven’t watched looks like it has evidence: youtube.com/watch?v=oTBgYWFvsioThe basic idea is that Christ operated exclusively in Judea and with only Jews for followers. In the Babylonian Talmud, Jews brag about getting the Romans to kill Jesus, thus circumventing their rules about killing fellow Jews. Saul, Judea’s head of security, spends years breaking up the followers of this new religious movement. Then, in his mid 30’s he suddenly “has a vision”, and goes to spread the word of Christ – exclusively over in gentile lands, as Paul. This new faith appeals to the slave classes, and undermines the Roman social hierarchy, and thus severely weakens Judea’s most dangerous foe.
Here’s a related video that’s geared more towards entertainment: youtube.com/watch?v=NjVXNm7ByMQ
October 16, 2023 at 2:48 am #19285Ted
ParticipantAdam green started to get a following, and became big enough to get attacked. I think his video compilations of rabbi statements are quite damning, and threatening to our rulers. There’s a lot of “totally organic” posts accusing him of being Jewish to discredit him without taking on his evidence or arguments. I expect there’s also some unpaid hate that comes his way due to his position that Christianity was resurrected by Jews and spread in the west as a psyop to undermine the Roman Empire. Either way, doesn’t change what the Jewish texts say.
There’s no material that could be used to make a 12,000 Stadia tall cube that can land on earth’s surface. It does make me wonder about the Jewish-Saturn connection though, the black cubes, Saturday is their sabbath, sometimes Saturn and Satan are considered interchangeable, etc.
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October 14, 2023 at 5:36 pm #19272Ted
ParticipantThanks for sharing, I was getting most of my Jewish book information from Adam Green’s show, so it’s reassuring that someone else draws the same conclusions from other sources.
The world metahuman idea fits aptly. They want to be the brain, the “light unto the nations”, the “nation of priests”. When I see articles or clips in Jewish publications about how “everyone looks to Israel for spiritual advice” or about how the gentile masses want Israel to lead them, I get the impression lots of Jews believe their own BS, they feel like they were made the leaders and they’re proud of it. Nobody I know looks to Israel for anything.
There is some cross over between the 25 points and the protocols. I’ve looked at an English translation of the book the protocols are supposed to have plagiarized from “The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu”. I went to the common passages, my impression was they were more shoe-horned into Dialogs in Hell. This book, supposedly from the mid 1800’s, also came with an excuse for why nobody had heard of it before the 1930’s Berne Trial; all the copies were supposedly seized when they were brought to the French-Belgium boarder. It’s claimed the French boarder security read the book, recognized Machiavelli in the book as a literary device to take a dig at Napoleon III, and had them destroyed. My impression is it’s more likely Dialogs in Hell is the forgery. As you say, the protocols describe their observed behavior.
October 14, 2023 at 4:52 pm #19270Ted
ParticipantThe childfree movement is a direct expression of what much of our programming indirectly aims at. As described by Tradiman, our culture is cultivated by a comparatively small number of people with an agenda, and that agenda involves radically reducing the gentile population. They usually can’t get away overtly killing or poisoning us, but they can usually get away with molding us to have ideas that interfere with reproduction.
Just about every social message I got from school related in some way to reducing the birth rate:
Be a militant ball-busting feminist who’s never satisfied.
Be a weak emotional “male ally” that needs a mommy-wife.
Gay people are very unlikely to have kids.
Trans people can’t have kids.
Have less kids for the environment.
Fat acceptance and body positivity give people an excuse to become ugly.
Ironically, “sex positivity”, (wantonly having sex with strangers for the fun of it), is also great for lowering the birth rate. With birth control and abortion, this not only doesn’t produce kids, but at least for women, it increases their divorce rates.The Childfree movement just comes right out and says it.
October 14, 2023 at 3:54 am #19263Ted
ParticipantHappy to share with someone else who’s interested.
The “millennial sabbath”, the year 6000 for the Jews, is supposed to be a thousand year period of global domination. As Jews take their 7th day of the week for rest, their 7th millennium is supposed to be a time when they won’t need to work or toil. In this “kingdom to come”, ruled by a descendant of David, on a throne in Israel, goyim “servants” will do everything for them. The year 6000 is something from the Zohar of the Kabbalah books, but the basic parasitism of their world victory, I believe is in the regular Torah, and not just the Talmud “oral Torah”. People think of Kabbalah and the Talmud as being where the inflammatory statements are, and that’s true, but I think a lot of their end goal is right there in the Torah. In particular their covenant with god -they keep the religion and do the traditions, their reward is a vast city where the food and labor is provided by foreigners.
Another thing to watch for is Noahidism. I bet it’s a generation or two off, but they’re going to widely push it eventually. It’s a religion that establishes the Jew as superior, and the Noahide as inferior, but allowed to live. There’s Noahides around today, but things are put very misleadingly euphemistically to them. It’s intended to replace Christianity and Islam one day, to make people feel like serving the Jews is their divine duty. One of the Jewish books describing the Kingdom to Come says that all gentiles will accept the 7 Noahide laws or be killed.
The 25 point plan was actually from 1773. Rothschild got together with 12 elite families to share the plan. Sometimes I see reference to a “committee of 300” which controls powerful NGOs, and a “crown council of 13” above them. I wonder if the crown Council is those same 12 families plus the Rothschilds.
Here’s a copy and paste from someone else’s translation and summary of the 25 points:
1. Use violence and terrorism rather than academic discussions.
2. Preach “Liberalism” to usurp political power.
3. Initiate class warfare.
4. Politicians must be cunning and deceptive – any moral code leaves a politician vulnerable.
5. Dismantle “existing forces of order and regulation.” Reconstruct all existing institutions.”
6. Remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
7. Use Mob Psychology to control the masses. “Without absolute despotism one cannot rule efficiently.”
8. Advocate the use of alcoholic liquors, drugs, moral corruption and all forms of vice, used systematically by “agenteurs” to corrupt the youth.
9. Seize properties by any means to secure submission and sovereignty.
10. Foment wars and control the peace conferences so that neither of the combatants gains territory placing them further in debt and therefore into our power.
11. Choose candidates for public office who will be “servile and obedient to our commands, so they may be readily used as pawns in our game.”
12. Use the Press for propaganda to control all outlets of public information, while remaining in the shadows, clear of blame.
13. Make the masses believe they had been the prey of criminals. Then restore order to appear as the saviors.
14. Create financial panics. Use hunger to control to subjugate the masses.
15. Infiltrate Freemasonry to take advantage of the Grand Orient Lodges to cloak the true nature of their work in philanthropy. Spread their atheistic-materialistic ideology amongst the “Goyim” (gentiles).
16. When the hour strikes for our sovereign lord of the entire World to be crowned, their influence will banish everything that might stand in his way.
17. Use systematic deception, high-sounding phrases and popular slogans. “The opposite of what has been promised can always be done afterwards… That is of no consequence.”
18. A Reign of Terror is the most economical way to bring about speedy subjection.
19. Masquerade as political, financial and economic advisers to carry out our mandates with Diplomacy and without fear of exposing “the secret power behind national and international affairs.”
20. Ultimate world government is the goal. It will be necessary to establish huge monopolies, so even the largest fortunes of the Goyim will depend on us to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of their governments on the day after the great political smash.”
21. Use economic warfare. Rob the “Goyim” of their landed properties and industries with a combination of high taxes and unfair competition.
22. “Make the ‘Goyim’ destroy each other so there will only be the proletariat left in the world, with a few millionaires devoted to our cause, and sufficient police and soldiers to protect our interest.”
23. Call it The New Order. Appoint a Dictator.
24. Fool, bemuse and corrupt the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false.
25 Twist national and international laws into a contradiction which first masks the law and afterwards hides it altogether. Substitute arbitration for law.”
October 14, 2023 at 3:04 am #19262Ted
Participant@Aster:
I like cruel jokes, but points for discipline.
@Ralf:
I agree with your assessment that those who don’t reproduce have failed in an objective and profound way. I agree that a woman who dedicates herself to college and career and thus doesn’t have kids, has failed in the arena of nature. However, jobs can be quit, and often are after pregnancy (and once the maternity leave runs out).The fit, naturally beautiful, and fashionable woman, seeing herself as higher status, will be less susceptible to ideas that appeal to losers, like body positivity or feminism. Similarly, people with more money tend to be less socialist, and nurses make about as much as engineers. The nursing program at my local college is super competitive, like only the top 5% make it in, so I speculate they’d prefer systems that reward the capable. Such people are hypothetically better primed to overcome their childhood indoctrination, and in the aftermath of having their illusions shattered, reform into good people of purpose. I acknowledge the odds of red pilling any given nurse are small, but according to my hypothesis, the odds would be better than with say, a barista or teacher.
@Benito:
I acknowledge that it was cowardly of me to not tell the blob that she was too fat, and all my cowardice achieved was to protect her delusions. I’ll try to be stronger next time, there’s no downside to being harshly honest if you’ll never see them again.October 13, 2023 at 3:57 am #19252Ted
Participant@Alumnus
I’ve had an eye out for the “great debt reset” ever since reading that. Getting rid of private property for the masses was part of Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s 25 point plan for world domination in 1770, but moreover, one of the Jewish books (I think the Torah) outright says Jews will own all the property in the world in their kingdom to come (2239 AD if they’re on time). How are they going to do it? Communism didn’t work. Getting everyone to own virtual wealth instead in the “metaverse” isn’t going well. Maybe we’ll see a total debt forgiveness in exchange for no more private property scheme by 2030 (if they haven’t already given up on that date, it looks like restarting covid petered out this month, so now they’re trying another foreign distraction war to send money to Jews and make everyone forget what was just happening).
I bought Frater X’s book “The Secret War Inside Freemasonry”, the gist of it is that the Scottish Rite branch are a bunch of recent aggressive lying usurpers, and they have members involved in directing CIA psyops. I don’t know enough to cast doubt, but he makes the York Rite out to be more of long standing and honorable mysticism club.
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